Printer issues?

So, I'm looking for a printer—or an all-in-one—around $350$133. Needs to have cheap third-party ink available, ideally something you can just pick up at a Best Buy or Staples right away. I don't know much about this stuff myself, though it’s actually for a friend.
Thanks in advance

Man, it’s getting so tough these days to just walk into a local shop and find printers that actually play nice with third-party ink... I remember hearing something about an HP model that uses like 4 or 5 cartridges, and the whole setup would only run you about $50. That seemed like the cheapest way to go, at least...

But hey, if anyone out there knows of a solid printer that isn't a total pain when using generic ink, please, let me know...

Check out the MP495 and those PG 510-512 cartridges along with the CLI 511-513 series...

Or just stick with the HP DeskJet 1050 using the 301 color and black inks.

Can I find compatible inks (up to $33) for this thing? 😁
http://www.amazon.com/hp-deskjet-ink-cartridges/dp/B00P2V6M6W
or maybe something like this
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/canon-pixma-multifunction-printer/5000000

Robert Rodriguez2 said:Are there any compatible ink refills (up to $33) for this beast? 😁
http://www.staples.com/printer-ink-refills
or maybe something like this
http://www.bestbuy.com/multifunction-printer

Yeah, they exist, but honestly? Total waste of money.

Why though?

Because those tiny 3.5 ml cartridges will run you about $20—$10. That means you're paying nearly $0.33 per single milliliter. Or, to put it another way, buying four 100 ml bottles would cost you roughly $133. If you decide to go the DIY route and refill the cartridges yourself, those four 100 ml bottles will set you back $40 plus tax and $50 plus the extra fee for permanent refill cartridges.

Basically, you're looking at an upfront investment of $100 + $90 + tax, totaling about $217.

Bottom line: Don't bother.
You're better off just grabbing a $200 Canon Pixma + a CISS setup.

It's way faster, too.
Plus, you can swap out the print heads whenever they give up on you.
And man, it can swallow through 300gsm cardstock like a pro.
Best part? You won't be constantly swapping or refilling some tiny cartridge every time you burn through 3.5 ml.

Just a heads up, you can usually find permanent cartridges for the Epson SX130 and a CISS for the Pixma in the same spot. Do the math yourself and see which makes more sense, because they'll end up costing you about the same anyway.

I don't need this thing for work or anything serious—it’s just for my kid in middle school... they aren't going to be printing much anyway... so I'm looking for something cheap and easy.

Honestly, just grab a cheap laser printer instead of messing around with an inkjet.

I really need some advice here,

does anyone have any hands-on experience with either of these models so they can tell me which one is actually worth buying?

The HP DeskJet 1050 a multifunction printer
or maybe
the Epson SX130 multifunction printer😕

thanks so much

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Sam Bailey52 said:Help me out here,

has anyone actually used either of these? Which one should I grab?

The HP DeskJet 1050 a multifunction printer
or
the Epson SX130 multifunction printer😕

thanks

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Same question, same answer.

These printers have only been on the shelves for maybe 30 to 60 days. Honestly, nobody who's been around long enough can give you any real-world feedback yet.

All we can do is guess at this point.

You're gonna need to be more specific about what you're looking for.

Robert Rodriguez2 said:Look, this printer isn't for a business or even for my own heavy lifting. It’s just for my kid in middle school for occasional assignments. Printing volume will be low. I just want something cheap.

Also, that Epson SX130 mentioned earlier uses pretty affordable third-party ink. For context, I have an SX115—it's an older model, but the standard color set works perfectly for it.$16(meaning black plus those three colors)

restlessseal58 said:Also, that HP DeskJet mentioned earlier has pretty cheap third-party ink. I actually have an older HP DeskJet, but all the ink colors fit mine perfectly$16(basically black plus those three others)

So, what's the damage for the HP DeskJet? Like, how much does it cost and how many ml are you actually getting for that price? That's really what I'm trying to figure out.

rustysurfer79 said:How much are they actually asking for the HP DeskJet, and how many milliliters are you getting for that price? I'm looking for a straight answer on that.

I don't know, and honestly, I don't care. The HP DeskJet has 13.5ml, and $4.00 it
is what it is. For anyone who isn't printing a novel every day, that printer is plenty. It won't be a waste of money.

restlessseal58 said:I don't know, I'm just saying, the HP DeskJet has 13.5ml and $4.00 it's
For someone who isn't printing constantly, that printer is honestly a pretty good deal and won't be a waste of cash

Wrong

The HP DeskJet can't even use more than 5.5 ml
The HP DeskJet can't use more than 3.5 ml

If you don't believe me, go do your own homework

See? That's why you shouldn't act like a know-it-all and hand out wrong advice to people

rustysurfer79 said:Wrong.

The HP DeskJet can't use more than 5.5 ml
The HP DeskJet can't use more than 3.5 ml

If you don't believe me, do your own homework.

See how stupid it is to be cocky and hand out wrong advice to people?

I don't get it. Can you explain?
I honestly have no clue about the HP DeskJet, and I wasn't claiming anything about it other than seeing that the third-party ink was around $7.25
I can only speak for my own printer, but there isn't much difference between them since they use the same ink. I have no idea what you're talking about regarding it not being able to use more than 5.5 ml. Explain yourself.

restlessseal58 said:I don't get it, can you explain?
I honestly have zero clue about the HP DeskJet, and I wasn't claiming anything about it other than seeing that the generic color was around $7.25
I can only speak for my own HP DeskJet (I said 115 before, my bad), but there isn't much difference between them and they use the same ink. I have no idea what you're talking about regarding not being able to use more than 5.5ml? Explain that to me.

Look, third-party manufacturers make generic cartridges. Got it?

When HP makes their own replacements, they design them differently for every single printer.

But when some other brand makes generic cartridges, they aren't making a custom one for every single model. Instead, they make one single cartridge that fits a huge range of HP printers. Makes sense?

So why won't those exact same generic cartridges work on all HP printers?

It’s because every single model needs a cartridge with a different serial number to function. OK?

How do you tell the difference if the plastic boxes look identical? Why do some work in a specific printer while others won't, even if they physically fit inside?

You tell by the label on the cartridge and the Intel on the cartridge.

Bottom line: the same physical cartridge could hold 13.5ml of ink and fit everything from a cheap budget HP to a high-end pro model, but the printer will only let you use whatever amount is programmed into the Intel.

And that's that.

discussion ended at Intel
The Intel for Ink Cartridge Model X says 5.5 ml
While the Intel for Ink Cartridge Model Y says 3.5 ml

The END

Which one wins?

Or maybe this

rustysurfer79, I was just commenting on the price. It’s good to know, but why the immediate hostility?
Which one do you think is actually worth the money? I’m asking because you clearly know your stuff, and I’m planning an upgrade soon—I need something with either an Ethernet port or Wi-Fi built in.

restlessseal58 said:rustysurfer79, I was just commenting on the price. It’s good info to have, so why get defensive right away?
Which one do you think is actually worth buying? I'm asking because you clearly know your stuff, and I'm looking to upgrade soon—definitely need something with an Ethernet port or Wi-Fi...

If you're asking rustysurfer79, the answer is: any printer. Why?

Because rustysurfer79 has to stay on top of everything hitting the market to find ways for users to save the most money. That’s basically his whole philosophy when it comes to recycling. If you get where he's coming from, you realize you'll always have someone looking out for you in that specific niche. But that's strictly from his perspective.

Now, if that vibe doesn't work for you for whatever reason, then our recommendations won't make sense to you either. You'd be looking for someone else to help, and they'll have done a completely different analysis and offer totally different support. Their whole motto is "buy it, use it, toss it."

Basically, if you're planning on buying generic cartridges from someone else, you should ask them the exact same question.

If you decide to go with one of those other options, we can talk to them and ask which product fits your needs best. But once you step outside this circle, interests shift and the whole logic falls apart.

Take this case, for example: cheap generic inks for the HP DeskJet. One set gets you 4 * $7.25 or about $33 for 5.5 + 3 * 3.5 ml, which is 15 ml total. From the first perspective, it's worth noting that for $23, you can get 50 ml of Premium ink or 200 ml of Universal ink. Just imagine: 15 ml versus 200 ml for the same thing. Of course, the guy selling 15 ml for $33 is going to bark at any other option.

So, it's up to you to decide which way is better. Is it the 15 ml "use it and dump it" route, or the 50 to 200 ml route where you aren't just tossing cartridges?

It couldn't be simpler.
If you're hoping to get the best of both worlds,

>>>You can't.div>

restlessseal58 said:rustysurfer79, look, I was just commenting on the price—which is worth noting—so why the immediate hostility?
In your opinion, which one actually offers the best value? I’m asking because you clearly know your stuff, and I’m planning an upgrade soon; I need something with either an Ethernet port or Wi-Fi...

bestbuy.com/printers/hp-laserjet-p1102-black-and-white-laser-printer__627901
I personally own the black version—looks a lot sleeker, honestly—and mine has Wi-Fi.

George Harris2 said:nabava.net/writers__110/hp-laserjet-p1102-laser-c-b-a4__627901
I actually have the black version myself—looks way sleeker—and it’s got WiFi.

Do you really think it's that different from an HP Envy 5000? Like, is that whole "3.5 ml + 3.5 ml" breakdown actually a huge deal? If you get what I'm getting at, you can run this product through the exact same logic and math.

Anyway, if you're looking for something in the same league as that laser, here's some food for thought for the New Year.
It's cheaper than a laser and faster than a laser. Only catch? We don't have compatible cartridges for it yet. So, it's basically just for the die-hard OEM fans.

http://www.epson.co.uk/cs/ContentSer...pplication/pdf