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Participants shadowdrifter34Bradley Williams5Steven Ruizhollowtrucker77
shadowdrifter34 shadowdrifter34 NewcomerOP
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joined Aug 2009
#1 ·
Seriously, why don't you just open that PDF and see the mess for yourself?

What’s the issue? It feels like you just don't want to!
If those are the rules like you claim, then why doesn't the same logic apply to Marica carica?

Go ahead, take a look at how she's making a fool out of everyone on this forum!
Look, nobody is crazy or blind enough to miss what's happening here.
Bradley Williams5 Bradley Williams5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Apr 2008
#2 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:everyone should stick to the specific topic of the chat (or whichever subforum the chat is hosted in)
also, just because moderation is a bit more relaxed in the chat doesn't mean trolling, insults, or intolerance are okay...

I honestly don't know what to make of that response. "Stick to the topic of the chat"? Could you please walk me through the logic there? What topics are we even talking about? There isn't one! That’s the whole point of having a chat room in the first place, isn't it? If it had a strict single topic, it wouldn't be a chatroom at all. Besides, I don't think this community's chat is nearly as "relaxed" with moderation as people claim—you'd be mistaken if you thought otherwise. And if I happen to express an opinion about something I dislike or point out that something isn't working quite right, since when does that count as trolling or being insulting? Please, let's use some common sense here. My husband actually ended up deleting all the posts I wrote today because he wasn't quite sure how to handle them...🤷😕
Both Key and I have been barred from the moderator chat... and why exactly is that? Did we actually insult anyone in there, or was this just a way for them to shield themselves from a little bit of honest criticism? Feel free to go back and read everything I wrote regarding Betty Wright64; I stand by every word. I haven't insulted a soul; I simply shared my perspective.
Steven Ruiz Steven Ruiz Active Member
156 messages
joined Sep 2004
#3 ·
Carol Hernandez94, I had to clear out those posts you made right after the moderator warning, especially the ones where things got a little too personal and disrespectful...
Just a heads-up, we don't discuss moderation or ask questions about how the mods handle things here in the chat.
Plus, you haven't actually brought up a valid point or a specific grievance... It really just feels like your whole argument boils down to the fact that you don't like me, and honestly, while I know I won't be everyone's cup of tea, that doesn't have anything to do with how we moderate this community!

I stand firmly behind every single red card I hand out, and since the admins can see everything—including all the deleted content—it’s incredibly easy for them to verify exactly what was removed, why it happened, and how many warnings were given before a card was issued...

Every single time you've reached out with a legitimate question regarding a ban or our specific mod procedures, you've received a clear answer...

As for how Mary handles her business, you’ll need to take that up with her directly, because her style of moderating is entirely her own, just as mine is my own...
She isn't responsible for my actions, and I certainly am not responsible for hers!
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#4 ·
Carol Hernandez94 said:Seriously, what kind of response is that? You’re supposed to stick to the topic of the chat, right? Well, please, walk me through this logic... what topics? There is no specific topic, and that's actually the whole point; I was asking if this chat even has a set theme, because if the diaspora chat had a strict agenda, it wouldn't really be a "chat" anymore, would it? And honestly, don't kid yourself thinking the diaspora section is moderated any more loosely than this—it isn't. If I express an opinion about something I dislike or point out that something isn't working quite right, since when does that count as being offensive or trolling? Just think about it for a second. My wife actually ended up deleting every single post I wrote today because she just didn't know what to make of them all.🤷😕
Both Key and I have been barred from the moderator chat, and I have to wonder why. Did we actually insult anyone in there, or was cutting us off just the easiest way for those two to shield themselves from a little bit of negative feedback? Feel free to go back and read everything I wrote regarding Betty Wright64; I stand by every word. I wasn't insulting anyone; I was simply stating my opinion.

We are supposedly here to just chat casually about whatever, right?
In that case, we should probably be chatting about issues relevant to the diaspora community, rather than obsessing over what someone is cooking for dinner or what kind of car they drive.
Is that clear enough for you now?
Besides, she explained things perfectly well to Betty Wright64 too, so you can just do the math.
Bradley Williams5 Bradley Williams5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Apr 2008
#5 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:We can just chat about whatever we want, right??
Well, if that's the case, then on this diaspora forum, we should be chatting about the actual issues facing Americans living abroad, rather than obsessing over what someone's making for dinner or what kind of car they drive.
Is that clear enough for you now?
Besides, Betty Wright64 already explained it quite nicely to you, so you really ought to connect the dots here.

But why shouldn't we chat about food or cars? If we only ever discussed problems specific to being part of the diaspora, we wouldn't even need to start other threads; everything could just be handled in the chat room... honestly, come on. You might want to go back and re-read what you actually wrote. "Casual chatting" implies talking about anything and everything—cooking, cars, weekend trips, kids, you name it. It's all part of the conversation...

As for what Betty Wright64 told me... well, I don't know what to say. She always seems to find a way to twist things to suit her own narrative. My original question was actually regarding Marica carica, who had been deleting my posts earlier today... however, she managed to skillfully deflect the whole situation onto Betty Wright64 instead.
Steven Ruiz Steven Ruiz Active Member
156 messages
joined Sep 2004
#6 ·
Mary didn't pass the ball...
We aren't all online at the exact same moment, you know... when she's hanging out on the site, she handles the moderation, and when I'm around, I take over the reins...
She was the one who cleared out most of those posts today while I was away from my desk...
I personally stepped in to delete a few and issued two bans—one for being insulting and another for ignoring a moderator's warning—once I logged on...

You can chat about pretty much anything you want, but trolling, being disrespectful, or dragging out endless debates about how we moderate just isn't allowed... everything is laid out clearly in the rules (which, by the way, apply to the whole community, not just our little PDF document)...
If you have specific questions regarding moderation, please just shoot a moderator a private message or start a new thread over in the General Discussion section...
Like I said before, we ALWAYS get back to you...
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#7 ·
amen

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