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Self-Sacrifice

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Chris Sanchez6 Chris Sanchez6 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Lately, I’ve been running into this term quite frequently—and usually in a negative light. It seems everyone is constantly "sacrificing" themselves for their parents, their kids, their spouses, extended family, or even just their boss... essentially, we are all supposedly martyring ourselves for others while claiming to act in our own best interest. That's the narrative pushed by the media and modern psychology, at least. But I'm curious—what is your take on this?

I find myself wondering if we are truly being selfless, or if we are simply selfish individuals who always prioritize our own needs first. Are people today perhaps overplaying their hand—constantly casting themselves in the role of the victim?
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
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#2 ·
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The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines "self-sacrificing" as one who fulfills their duties without fearing any personal cost; being deeply committed.

So, if you look at the very core of the term, it inherently implies both the readiness and the genuine desire for carrying out one's responsibilities, particularly when viewed through the widest possible lens of those obligations—and frankly, I can't think of any "negative connotation" where someone would actually claim to be self-sacrificing.
Chris Sanchez6 Chris Sanchez6 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Well, it looks like I’ve managed to overcomplicate a simple concept 😛

My point with this discussion was really about the idea of self-sacrifice—for instance, parents dedicating their lives to their kids, or children caring for aging parents. It’s about how, after all that time, someone might end up marrying a stranger—only to realize they weren't actually thinking of themselves, but were just constantly trying to please everyone else
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So, I find myself wondering... do most people truly neglect their own needs because they are devoted to others, or is there an underlying layer of selfishness even in those acts? Personally, I suspect we are all quite selfish—that even when we act for someone else, we are primarily doing it for our own sake. Even those who give 150% to their children—it's often driven by some level of self-interest
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I am curious: are we truly capable of being selfless, or are we fundamentally selfish creatures who always prioritize our own interests first? And do you think people today exaggerate this too much—playing the victim far more often than they actually are
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jadewolf16 jadewolf16 Active Member
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joined Oct 2014
#4 ·
I honestly feel like everyone is just stuck looking in a mirror, totally obsessed with themselves

even parents when they’re dealing with their own kids, you know?

like, how many times back in the day did we see parents basically picking out spouses for their children—completely ignoring how much the kids hated it? It was always about what made the parents happy, not what was actually best for them.
Larry Wilson25 Larry Wilson25 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#5 ·
I honestly feel like that kind of selflessness—the way you’re describing it—is just hardwired into our DNA when it comes to our kids. It's that instinctual drive. And when it comes to parents, they tend to age a little slower because they've got that purpose, you know? But then there's this whole other side to it... modern American society puts so much pressure on us to raise our children to be "conformists"—to make sure they blend in perfectly and build lives that fit right into the mold of the environment we live in. It often feels like there's this constant push against any perceived "selfishness," where kids are basically coached to share or help out, almost on command from their parents, just to satisfy those social expectations.
Ronald Anderson45 Ronald Anderson45 Newcomer
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#6 ·
At the end of the day, helping people should be about making them feel good—that’s the whole point. You set your own limits based on what your conscience tells you is right.
When you step up for someone else, you're actually learning a ton about who you are and growing past your old self. Some might look at it like, "if you can't help yourself, how can you help anyone else?" and think helping others is just a roundabout way of helping yourself, but that's just scratching the surface; the real depth of it is something much more profound.

You can't truly show up for someone else unless you've done the work on yourself first—unless you're a self-aware person who tackles their own baggage instead of just pushing it off and waiting for a miracle to fix it.

If we're only looking out for ourselves while ignoring the millions of other living things on this planet, we're basically just locking ourselves inside our own egos.
Helping shouldn't feel like a chore; it should come from a place of pure love. No matter what kind of mess life throws at you, having that awareness gives you the capacity for compassion and a genuine heart.
A person's true worth lies in their ability to respect and value others, and the most incredible people are those willing to put others before themselves.

I personally believe in being helpful and I really try to live a selfless life, but I also think we need to lean on ourselves and our own strengths more. Even the people we're helping will learn the most if they have to face their own struggles head-on and figure things out for themselves.

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