Singapore GP (Marina Bay Street Circuit) - 09/22/2013
Started by Jason Campbell70 · · ๐ 7 views · 50 replies
#3 ·
Is there anything quite like the sheer, unadulterated brilliance of Sebastian Vettel? One finds oneself wondering, as the laps tick away, if we have ever truly witnessed a talent of such profound depth and precision before. He is, quite simply, a master of his craft.
Is there anyone else who truly understands the sheer, unadulterated brilliance of Kimi Rรคikkรถnen? He really is a master of his craft, isn't he?
I offer my sincerest respects to you all, my friends.
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Is there anyone else who truly understands the sheer, unadulterated brilliance of Kimi Rรคikkรถnen? He really is a master of his craft, isn't he?
I offer my sincerest respects to you all, my friends.
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#4 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Itโs basically what Jenson Button was doing back in '09... at least during the first half of that season.
Now, one half of a season might be a fluke or just some "miracle" run, but four seasons in a row? That can only be called a fluke by biased Ferrari fans who refuse to see reality.
The sooner you all accept certain truths, the easier it'll be for you.
#5 ·
frozenheron7 said:Once again, they're playing Sebastian Vettel for fools regarding the podium. ๐
Jason Campbell70 said:You can't fool the fans... you fraud.
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Heโs quite possibly the only driver who has ever beenโor currently isโgetting played like this. That should tell you everything you need to know about him.
If this keeps up, it wouldn't be surprising if they reverted to the old way of doing things: conducting interviews in a studio setting. ๐
#6 ·
Is this supposed to be Ferrari's home turf or something, with everyone chanting Nando's name and basically telling Vettel to get lost?
#7 ·
jadeseal7 said:Sebastian Vettel is playing up the crowd favorite angle, almost like he's the darling of the fans, ๐คฃ๐คฃ and honestly, thereโs a bit of a flamboyant vibe to it all.
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#8 ·
Tyler Bennett5 said:One half of a season might be a fluke or just bad luck, but four seasons in a row?
Thatโs only a "fluke" if you're a biased Ferrari fan.
Accepting reality early on might actually make things easier for you.
Where was that Michael Schumacher-level Sebastian Vettel during the first half of last year, back when the car wasn't performing like a legend?
#9 ·
The crowd was absolutely booing the whole scam, but even the maestro couldn't help himselfโhe flashed a little grin right at that moment ๐
#10 ·
Iโm just waiting for Bernie to unleash the police on anyone trolling Sebastian Vettel, much like how a certain aggressive owner would send security after the media just for calling out his shady tactics.
#11 ·
ALONSO, ALONSO, ALONSO!!!
Nobody gives a single damn about Vettel, seriously, not even five percent of a damn. ๐คฃ
Nobody gives a single damn about Vettel, seriously, not even five percent of a damn. ๐คฃ
#12 ·
Edward Howard2 said:The crowd boos the fraud, yet the conductor couldn't help but crack a smirk right then and there. ๐
He waves, and naturally, he gets a standing ovation.๐
#13 ·
Fernando Alonso is a master and arguably the best driver out there, but you guys are really overhyping him,
what was actually so legendary about it? Sure, he had a solid launch, and maybe he
got away just a fraction faster than the field, but nothing spectacular happened,
you can see it clearly in the onboard footage from his perspective. He just floored it straight down the line without making any maneuvers before the first turn, and he got lucky because Romain Grosjean, Mark Webber, and Lewis Hamilton were all fighting and blocking each other ahead of him, which basically did the heavy lifting for him... Thereโs no denying it was a clean start, but it isn't anything special enough to warrant 800 emojis and hype...
It would be nice if we could just have a civilized discussion about F1 on this forum,
instead of constantly reading endless bickering and teasing about "dirty driving," "whining," "cheating," or "true champions" and so on...
Iโm not even an Alonso fan, yet I find it easy to admit heโs the best. So why can't
everyone else look at race situations realistically, or at least try to? If Sebastian Vettel was "two seconds faster per lap" today, who's to say it's all the car? Isn't it theoretically possible the car provided 1.8 seconds of that gap while Vettel earned the remaining 0.2 seconds himself? ๐คท
what was actually so legendary about it? Sure, he had a solid launch, and maybe he
got away just a fraction faster than the field, but nothing spectacular happened,
you can see it clearly in the onboard footage from his perspective. He just floored it straight down the line without making any maneuvers before the first turn, and he got lucky because Romain Grosjean, Mark Webber, and Lewis Hamilton were all fighting and blocking each other ahead of him, which basically did the heavy lifting for him... Thereโs no denying it was a clean start, but it isn't anything special enough to warrant 800 emojis and hype...
It would be nice if we could just have a civilized discussion about F1 on this forum,
instead of constantly reading endless bickering and teasing about "dirty driving," "whining," "cheating," or "true champions" and so on...
Iโm not even an Alonso fan, yet I find it easy to admit heโs the best. So why can't
everyone else look at race situations realistically, or at least try to? If Sebastian Vettel was "two seconds faster per lap" today, who's to say it's all the car? Isn't it theoretically possible the car provided 1.8 seconds of that gap while Vettel earned the remaining 0.2 seconds himself? ๐คท
#14 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Fernando dominated that maestralan race. Iโm calling a win for him on October 13th.
If that's the case, it just proves how much he's coasting, which makes him a pretty mediocre driver.
Take one less pit stop in boxing and what do you have? A maestralan race? ๐คฃ
#15 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Sebastian Vettel is a master!
Kimi Rรคikkรถnen is a master!
I salute you both, masters!
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There are plenty of masters, but there is only one maestro. โ
David Anderson72 said:He's the only driver who truly doesn't care, past or present. That says everything you need to know about him.
If things keep going this way, it wouldn't be surprising if they brought back those old studio interviews. ๐
LOL, imagine the fraud giving an interview while the crowd chants "A-LON-SO, A-LON-SO."
Three-time world champion. ๐
Four-time soon enough.
#16 ·
Tyler Bennett5 said:One half of a season might be a fluke or just bad luck, but four seasons in a row
is only a "fluke" if you're one of those biased Ferrari fans.
Itโll be easier on you if you just face reality sooner rather than later.
And honestly, facing the truth can sting. But if it bothers someone, let itโFernando is a World Championship runner-up. ๐คฃ
#17 ·
Nathan Fisher24 said:Look, Fernando is a maestro, truly one of the best drivers out there, but I really think people are overdoing it with the worship.
I mean, what was actually so legendary about it? Sure, he had a great launch, and maybe he
got away a tiny fraction of a second faster than the rest, but it wasn't exactly a cinematic masterpiece.
If you watch the onboard footage from his perspective, itโs just straight throttle and a perfectly smooth line without any crazy maneuvering before the first corner. He basically got lucky because everyone ahead of himโRomain Grosjean, Mark Webber, and Lewis Hamiltonโwere too busy fighting, blocking, and tripping over each other to stop him. It made his job significantly easier... There's no denying it was a clean start, but does it really deserve 800 smiley faces and endless hype?
It would be such a refreshing change if we could actually have a civilized discussion about F1 on this forum
instead of constantly wading through these petty arguments about "dirty driving," "whining," "cheating," or who the "real champions" are...
Iโm not even a fan of Fernando, but I don't find it hard to admit he's the best. So why can't
everyone else look at race situations with a bit more objectivity, or at least a little more realism? If Vettel was faster today by, say, "two seconds per lap," who's to say that's entirely down to the car? Isn't it theoretically possible that the car was only providing 1.8 seconds of that advantage, and Vettel himself squeezed out that extra 0.2? ๐คท
You must be new around here.
#18 ·
Nathan Fisher24 said:Look, Fernando is a maestroโundeniably one of the best drivers out thereโbut I think everyone is going a bit overboard with the worship,
I mean, what was actually so legendary about it? Sure, he had a solid launch, and maybe he
got away a mere thousandth of a second faster than the pack, but it wasn't anything earth-shattering,
and you can really see that if you watch the onboard footage from his perspective. He just pins the throttle and stays perfectly straight without having to make any daring maneuvers before the first turn; he just got lucky because Romain Grosjean, Mark Webber, and Lewis Hamilton were all busy fighting, cutting each other off, and braking heavily in front of himโit basically cleared a path for Fernando and made his job much easier... Thereโs no denying it was a clean start, but itโs hardly something that deserves 800 smiley faces and endless hype...
I really wish we could just have a normal, civilized discussion about F1 on this forum,
instead of constantly wading through these endless bickering matches about "dirty driving," "whining," "cheating," or who the "true champions" are...
It's not like I'm a die-hard fan of Fernando, but I don't find it difficult to admit when someone is the best. So why can't
everyone else look at race situations with a bit more objectivityโor at least a little more realism? For instance, if Vettel was faster today by "2 seconds per lap," who's to say that's entirely down to the car? Isn't it theoretically possible that the car was only 1.8 seconds faster, and Vettel himself earned that extra 0.2 seconds through pure skill? ๐คท
That doesn't hold water for me, because even if a car isn't perfect, the driver still has to pull it offโand guys like Kimi Rรคikkรถnen and Fernando always squeeze every bit of potential out of whatever they're sitting in.
#19 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Where was that Schumacher-level Vettel during the first half of last season, back when the car wasn't even close to being competitive?
You'll have to take up that argument about what happened two years ago with someone else.
I made it quite clear in my write-up for today's race that he drove it beautifully.
#20 ·
Nathan Fisher24 said:Fernando is a maestro, truly one of the finest drivers out there, but I feel we are all perhaps overstating his greatness just a bit,
isn't it? What was actually so maestralan about it? Sure, he had a solid start, and perhaps he
gained a tiny fraction of a second over the field, but was it anything truly spectacular?
If one watches the onboard footage from his perspective, it becomes quite clear; he simply applied the throttle and drove a straight line without any significant maneuvering before the first corner, and he was largely aided by the fact that Romain Grosjean, Mark Webber, and Lewis Hamilton were all fighting and blocking one another in front of him, which effectively cleared the path for Fernando... It was certainly a clean start, but is it really something worth celebrating with hundreds of emojis and endless praise?
I often find myself wishing that people on this forum could engage in a civil, rational discussion regarding F1,
rather than constantly wading through these petty arguments about "dirty driving," "whining," "cheating," or debates over who the "true champions" are...
It isn't that I am a fan of Fernando, but I find it quite easy to admit when someone is the best. Why is it that
others cannot look at race incidents with a sense of realism, or perhaps even a modicum of objectivity? If Sebastian Vettel was faster today by, say, two seconds per lap, who is to say that entire margin belongs to the car? Is it not theoretically possible that the car provided 1.8 seconds of that gap, while Sebastian himself earned the remaining 0.2 seconds through sheer talent? ๐คท
If you simply observe how much more Mark Webber struggles within that same car, it becomes abundantly clear just how brilliant Sebastian Vettel really is. He is in a league of his own, as they say. I wouldn't pay too much mind to the Fernando devotees; since he can't find a way to challenge Sebastian on the track, their only recourse seems to be disparaging the German. Meanwhile, Sebastian just keeps getting better and better.
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