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Small debt collection: Is it worth suing?

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stormycobra3 stormycobra3 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Hey everyone. So, an acquaintance of mine owes me $333. I’m honestly at a loss for how to get her to pay up, and a buddy actually suggested I just head down to the local police station and file a formal report against her. Is it even worth filing a police report for an amount like this, or am I looking at having to file a private lawsuit instead? I really need some advice here because she is straight-up refusing to give me my money back.
Charles Jones3 Charles Jones3 Member
12 messages
joined Jul 2018
#2 ·
What would she even report to the police? Fraud? 🤔

It’s not exactly a slam dunk—to prove criminal fraud, you have to show they had the intent to scam her *before* the money ever changed hands, which, let's face it, is a nightmare to prove. Everything else just turns into a messy civil lawsuit, followed by a whole ordeal involving wage garnishment or seizing assets if the debtor refuses to pay after the judge rules against them. It’s a long, expensive slog for any lawyer, and honestly, if the person doesn't actually have any assets or a steady paycheck, you might as well kiss that money goodbye.

The most "efficient" route—if you want to get dark—would be hiring debt collectors who don't play by the rules. You know, the kind who show up in ski masks, kick the front door down, tell her and her boyfriend to hit the floor, tie them up, and go through every drawer and wallet until they find what's owed. If there's no cash on hand? Well, they just come back next week and do the exact same thing.

Look, when you lend someone cash in good faith, and then suddenly you're the one scraping by because life is expensive and this guy is acting like he's doing you a favor by existing... well, you start thinking of all sorts of desperate ideas.

Some people might judge me for saying this, but I think sometimes you just have to show some teeth. With the way our legal system works, you could spend years dragging this through the courts only to end up empty-handed. And these scammers—especially the ones you trust enough to lend money to without a formal contract—they get incredibly cocky. They love throwing things like, "Where's the paperwork? No contract, no debt. In court, it's my word against yours," at you. They know exactly how to exploit the loopholes. Without a signed document or a witness, proving they intended to cheat her is nearly impossible, and they'll just laugh in her face while acting untouchable.

If you want something done right, you've got to take matters into your own hands.
shadowrider21 shadowrider21 Newcomer
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#3 ·
Pro tip: Stop lending money to acquaintances. Don't lend them books either. Don't lend them anything. Period.
On the flip side, if you actually have to chase someone down to get your stuff back, it’s way less awkward with an acquaintance since you aren't close enough for it to be a massive "bed."
rowdyotter12 rowdyotter12 Member
48 messages
joined Jul 2020
#4 ·
Filing a lawsuit is a total wash—it’s just not worth the legal fees.
You might as well kiss any hope of getting your money back, or even maintaining your reputation in town, goodbye.

People love to give you their two cents, but honestly? It's usually useless.
Life has a funny way of teaching you the hard way through sheer, painful experience.
You won't truly believe it until you've been burned personally.
shadowrider21 shadowrider21 Newcomer
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#5 ·
Bottom line: the second someone you barely know starts asking for cash, your internal alarm should be screaming. Only total losers have the nerve to hit up someone they aren't even close friends with for money.
Charles Jones3 Charles Jones3 Member
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#6 ·
Look, whether it’s an acquaintance or a close friend, if I’ve got the cash and they’re in a bind, I’m lending what I can.
I don't usually trigger any internal alarms—I have this habit of giving people the benefit of the doubt the first time around.

I’m not the kind of person who’s going to hunt someone down for repayment if I don't actually need the money back.
But once I *do* need my money? If the person starts acting like they’ve suddenly forgotten we had a deal, then the pressure starts.

Back in the day—about 14 years ago—I had a debtor who thought he could play me. At 1:30 in the morning, I ended up breaking down his door, walking right in, pinning him to the floor, and zip-tying his hands. I got my money back, and let's just say he wasn't exactly in a position to call the cops.

Even if he tried to report it, it would’ve been his word against mine—and I had a rock-solid alibi. My parents, my ex, my buddies... they could all testify that we were busy having a massive party at my place.
I was careful about fingerprints and DNA, too—full jumpsuit and gloves. I even wore a mask just in case there were any cameras or facial recognition tech lurking around. As for the sneakers and the rest of the gear used during the job? They vanished without a trace. And obviously, I never touched a weapon or any tools.
shadowrider21 shadowrider21 Newcomer
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#7 ·
So you finally admitted everything right here on the forum 🤣
I’m honestly not sure you wouldn't end up in front of a judge if I were you. From what I can gather as a layman, there are definitely criminal elements at play here. He didn't shake you down for the cash; you handed it over voluntarily. But breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night? That’s pushing it, if not straight-up illegal.

Legal or not, your whole move sounds way over the top to me. You could have handled it much more subtly while still being convincing.

First rule: stop lending money to acquaintances. That’s exactly why we call them acquaintances—they aren't friends and they aren't family (and sometimes, you don't even need them to be).
Charles Jones3 Charles Jones3 Member
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#8 ·
shadowrider21 said:So you finally admitted everything right here on the forum 🤣
I’m honestly not sure you wouldn't end up in front of a judge if I were you. From what I can gather as a layman, there are definitely criminal elements at play here. He didn't shake you down for the cash; you handed it over voluntarily. But breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night? That’s pushing it, if not straight-up illegal.

Legal or not, your whole move sounds way over the top to me. You could have handled it much more subtly while still being convincing.

First rule: stop lending money to acquaintances. That’s exactly why we call them acquaintances—they aren't friends and they aren't family (and sometimes, you don't even need them to be).

Yeah, it definitely exists. We’re talking about fraudulent billing—it's a felony that can land you anywhere from six months to five years behind bars. Isn't it wild how much legal trouble you can get into just by messing with the numbers?

Well, it’s been fourteen years—fourteen!—and at this point, the statute of limitations for that crime has officially run out. Does anyone else find it wild how much can change in over a decade? It's just one of those things where time finally catches up to the legal system and everything just... expires. Case closed, I guess. 🙂

If we’re talking about a qualified offense—you know, like using a dangerous instrument or a weapon—then we’re looking at a sentence ranging from one to eight years. In those kinds of cases, the statute of limitations wouldn't even have kicked in yet. But that’s just not my situation. Not even close.

Look, some random "confession" you see posted on an internet forum isn't actual proof—it’s just noise. If we’re talking about real, legal evidence, we’re talking about a formal statement given to a District Attorney or a lead investigator at the FBI—something that is recorded via official audio and video and then transcribed into a sworn interrogation report. That’s the standard. Anything else? It’s just talk.

shadowrider21 said:So you finally admitted everything right here on the forum 🤣
I’m honestly not sure you wouldn't end up in front of a judge if I were you. From what I can gather as a layman, there are definitely criminal elements at play here. He didn't shake you down for the cash; you handed it over voluntarily. But breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night? That’s pushing it, if not straight-up illegal.

Legal or not, your whole move sounds way over the top to me. You could have handled it much more subtly while still being convincing.

First rule: stop lending money to acquaintances. That’s exactly why we call them acquaintances—they aren't friends and they aren't family (and sometimes, you don't even need them to be).

There’s a massive distinction between giving someone money and lending it—seriously, there is. I didn't just hand that cash over as a gift, you know? I lent it. There's a difference.

I mean, look—sometimes things just align in that weird, cosmic way, right? You need the cash, you’re staring down a bill, and there’s this person just sitting there acting like they’re untouchable—playing the victim, making jokes, basically laughing in your face because they think nobody can actually come after them for what they owe. It’s one of those moments where you just have to wonder... how does someone even live like that? Honestly, it's almost impressive in a pathetic sort of way.

Look, you’d better figure it out—and I mean actually make a move—because if you don't, you're basically non-existent. It’s that simple. If you haven't got the guts to step up, then honestly? Just stay home, curl up on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw good money after bad at bets that were dead on arrival from the start. Is that really how you want to live? Just bleeding out on losing hands? Figure it out or get out of the way.

shadowrider21 said:So you finally admitted everything right here on the forum 🤣
I’m honestly not sure you wouldn't end up in front of a judge if I were you. From what I can gather as a layman, there are definitely criminal elements at play here. He didn't shake you down for the cash; you handed it over voluntarily. But breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night? That’s pushing it, if not straight-up illegal.

Legal or not, your whole move sounds way over the top to me. You could have handled it much more subtly while still being convincing.

First rule: stop lending money to acquaintances. That’s exactly why we call them acquaintances—they aren't friends and they aren't family (and sometimes, you don't even need them to be).

In this particular situation—and I’m talking about the individual in question here—dropping those subtle hints about a lawsuit isn't going to do a damn thing, and let's be honest, trying to bully them with more serious threats? Definitely won't work either. Why bother?

So, you’re dealing with someone whose rap sheet is thick enough to prop up a wobbly table—we're talking everything from petty fraud and robbery to grand larceny and even moving heroin on the street. Now, imagine trying to pull some subtle, sophisticated legal maneuver on a guy like that... like, how exactly do you walk up to a career criminal and politely explain that you're hitting him with a civil lawsuit? Is there even a way to be "subtle" when you're playing chess with a guy who only knows how to use a sledgehammer? It’s almost laughable, isn't it? 🤣 The guy’s got enough garnishment orders piled up to sink a battleship—seriously, we're talking a hundred different legal actions against him—and apparently, his ex-wife even took him to court over unpaid child support. Can you imagine? Just a mountain of legal headaches following him everywhere.

shadowrider21 said:So you finally admitted everything right here on the forum 🤣
I’m honestly not sure you wouldn't end up in front of a judge if I were you. From what I can gather as a layman, there are definitely criminal elements at play here. He didn't shake you down for the cash; you handed it over voluntarily. But breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night? That’s pushing it, if not straight-up illegal.

Legal or not, your whole move sounds way over the top to me. You could have handled it much more subtly while still being convincing.

First rule: stop lending money to acquaintances. That’s exactly why we call them acquaintances—they aren't friends and they aren't family (and sometimes, you don't even need them to be).

Maybe so, maybe not. Look, we can't all be geniuses 24/7—sometimes you're going to get burned, it happens—but you shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. You can't just live your life being a total skeptic and a miser, because what happens when *you're* the one in a bind one day, and then a real friend hits you with that same logic you used on them?

But hey, once I do get burned, I'm not going to sit around crying over spilled milk. Instead, I just stick to that old saying my grandfather used to repeat: "everyone eventually gets their turn to settle the score."
Gerald Thompson5 Gerald Thompson5 Newcomer
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#9 ·
So, Kentaurus, what am I looking at here? You trying to play Rambo, some kind of elite debt collector, and now you’re subtly pitching your services on this board? 🤣 Like some SWAT team tactical entry, kicking down doors and storming houses in the middle of the night. 😂
Even if you actually are that kind of guy, you’ve gotta realize there’s a massive risk involved. For all you know, that debtor could pull a gun on you or just absolutely lose it on you—maybe even catch you slipping. It’s just basic logic; you never truly know what’s going through the head of some lunatic wearing tactical gear who decides to bust through your front door at 3 AM.
Honestly, thinking like that just proves you’re a bigger bottom-feeder than the con artist you’re defending. To you, a person's life and safety don't mean a damn thing compared to a pile of cash.
You’ve clearly watched way too many action flicks. Chill out. If that's how you actually carry yourself in the real world, you're either gonna end up in an obituary or behind bars in a federal prison.

Look, if you borrowed money, that’s on you. You didn't bother to check who you were dealing with, and now you’re crying about it.
I don't trust anyone based on a pretty face, let alone give them $1.75, much less anything substantial.
Charles Jones3 Charles Jones3 Member
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joined Jul 2018
#10 ·
Gerald Thompson5 said:So, Kentaurus, what am I looking at here? You trying to play Rambo, some kind of elite debt collector, and now you’re subtly pitching your services on this board? 🤣 Like some SWAT team tactical entry, kicking down doors and storming houses in the middle of the night. 😂
Even if you actually are that kind of guy, you’ve gotta realize there’s a massive risk involved. For all you know, that debtor could pull a gun on you or just absolutely lose it on you—maybe even catch you slipping. It’s just basic logic; you never truly know what’s going through the head of some lunatic wearing tactical gear who decides to bust through your front door at 3 AM.
Honestly, thinking like that just proves you’re a bigger bottom-feeder than the con artist you’re defending. To you, a person's life and safety don't mean a damn thing compared to a pile of cash.
You’ve clearly watched way too many action flicks. Chill out. If that's how you actually carry yourself in the real world, you're either gonna end up in an obituary or behind bars in a federal prison.

Look, if you borrowed money, that’s on you. You didn't bother to check who you were dealing with, and now you’re crying about it.
I don't trust anyone based on a pretty face, let alone give them $1.75, much less anything substantial.

Look, I’m not some debt collector—don't get it twisted—but I’m also not an idiot who’s just going to sit there and let some punk think he’s untouchable while my family actually needs that money right now. As for getting handsy or whatever else might happen? If I decide to go that route, I’m fully prepared for the fallout. I’ve put in enough time in Krav Maga training to know how to handle myself when things get messy. And please, don't act like I haven't dealt with enough neighborhood bullies and tough guys to know exactly what kind of lowlife I'm dealing with.

When you're dealing with this kind of stuff, it all comes down to the element of surprise—you know? It’s about catching them off guard while they’re sleeping, just a sudden, unexpected bolt from the blue... and then you have to keep them under constant surveillance because, honestly, people like that tend to lash out at whoever's in their orbit without any warning.

He’s not going to report it—because if you’re actually thinking two steps ahead, you realize there’s zero evidence, right? You just make sure your own alibi is airtight first. Honestly, filing a formal complaint would be a total self-inflicted wound; why create a massive headache for yourself when there’s nothing to back it up? You’d basically just be handing them a reason to look at you—and hey, if you're lucky, you might stay out of trouble, or at most, deal with some legal nonsense for twenty-four hours before you're back on the street. Why invite that kind of drama?

Look, whether the cops decide to pull some bluffing stunt is one thing entirely. I’ve been through dozens of these interrogations myself—seriously, enough to know the drill—and if you just stick to your guns and don't bite when they try to intimidate you, there’s absolutely nothing there. No evidence, no nothing. You have my word on that.

And let's be real—in my book, the cops couldn't care less about some low-life dealer or a common con artist anyway. Why would they? It's just more paperwork for them, right?
shadowrider21 shadowrider21 Newcomer
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#11 ·
🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

Charles Jones3 said:Yeah, it definitely exists. We’re talking about fraudulent billing—it's a felony that can land you anywhere from six months to five years behind bars. Isn't it wild how much legal trouble you can get into just by messing with the numbers?

Well, it’s been fourteen years—fourteen!—and at this point, the statute of limitations for that crime has officially run out. Does anyone else find it wild how much can change in over a decade? It's just one of those things where time finally catches up to the legal system and everything just... expires. Case closed, I guess. 🙂

If we’re talking about a qualified offense—you know, like using a dangerous instrument or a weapon—then we’re looking at a sentence ranging from one to eight years. In those kinds of cases, the statute of limitations wouldn't even have kicked in yet. But that’s just not my situation. Not even close.

Look, some random "confession" you see posted on an internet forum isn't actual proof—it’s just noise. If we’re talking about real, legal evidence, we’re talking about a formal statement given to a District Attorney or a lead investigator at the FBI—something that is recorded via official audio and video and then transcribed into a sworn interrogation report. That’s the standard. Anything else? It’s just talk.

There’s a massive distinction between giving someone money and lending it—seriously, there is. I didn't just hand that cash over as a gift, you know? I lent it. There's a difference.

I mean, look—sometimes things just align in that weird, cosmic way, right? You need the cash, you’re staring down a bill, and there’s this person just sitting there acting like they’re untouchable—playing the victim, making jokes, basically laughing in your face because they think nobody can actually come after them for what they owe. It’s one of those moments where you just have to wonder... how does someone even live like that? Honestly, it's almost impressive in a pathetic sort of way.

Look, you’d better figure it out—and I mean actually make a move—because if you don't, you're basically non-existent. It’s that simple. If you haven't got the guts to step up, then honestly? Just stay home, curl up on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw good money after bad at bets that were dead on arrival from the start. Is that really how you want to live? Just bleeding out on losing hands? Figure it out or get out of the way.

In this particular situation—and I’m talking about the individual in question here—dropping those subtle hints about a lawsuit isn't going to do a damn thing, and let's be honest, trying to bully them with more serious threats? Definitely won't work either. Why bother?

So, you’re dealing with someone whose rap sheet is thick enough to prop up a wobbly table—we're talking everything from petty fraud and robbery to grand larceny and even moving heroin on the street. Now, imagine trying to pull some subtle, sophisticated legal maneuver on a guy like that... like, how exactly do you walk up to a career criminal and politely explain that you're hitting him with a civil lawsuit? Is there even a way to be "subtle" when you're playing chess with a guy who only knows how to use a sledgehammer? It’s almost laughable, isn't it? 🤣 The guy’s got enough garnishment orders piled up to sink a battleship—seriously, we're talking a hundred different legal actions against him—and apparently, his ex-wife even took him to court over unpaid child support. Can you imagine? Just a mountain of legal headaches following him everywhere.

Maybe so, maybe not. Look, we can't all be geniuses 24/7—sometimes you're going to get burned, it happens—but you shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. You can't just live your life being a total skeptic and a miser, because what happens when *you're* the one in a bind one day, and then a real friend hits you with that same logic you used on them?

But hey, once I do get burned, I'm not going to sit around crying over spilled milk. Instead, I just stick to that old saying my grandfather used to repeat: "everyone eventually gets their turn to settle the score."

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

Charles Jones3 said:Look, I’m not some debt collector—don't get it twisted—but I’m also not an idiot who’s just going to sit there and let some punk think he’s untouchable while my family actually needs that money right now. As for getting handsy or whatever else might happen? If I decide to go that route, I’m fully prepared for the fallout. I’ve put in enough time in Krav Maga training to know how to handle myself when things get messy. And please, don't act like I haven't dealt with enough neighborhood bullies and tough guys to know exactly what kind of lowlife I'm dealing with.

When you're dealing with this kind of stuff, it all comes down to the element of surprise—you know? It’s about catching them off guard while they’re sleeping, just a sudden, unexpected bolt from the blue... and then you have to keep them under constant surveillance because, honestly, people like that tend to lash out at whoever's in their orbit without any warning.

He’s not going to report it—because if you’re actually thinking two steps ahead, you realize there’s zero evidence, right? You just make sure your own alibi is airtight first. Honestly, filing a formal complaint would be a total self-inflicted wound; why create a massive headache for yourself when there’s nothing to back it up? You’d basically just be handing them a reason to look at you—and hey, if you're lucky, you might stay out of trouble, or at most, deal with some legal nonsense for twenty-four hours before you're back on the street. Why invite that kind of drama?

Look, whether the cops decide to pull some bluffing stunt is one thing entirely. I’ve been through dozens of these interrogations myself—seriously, enough to know the drill—and if you just stick to your guns and don't bite when they try to intimidate you, there’s absolutely nothing there. No evidence, no nothing. You have my word on that.

And let's be real—in my book, the cops couldn't care less about some low-life dealer or a common con artist anyway. Why would they? It's just more paperwork for them, right?

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.
Charles Jones3 Charles Jones3 Member
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joined Jul 2018
#12 ·
shadowrider21 said:🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.

Who knows... 🤔

shadowrider21 said:🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.

Yeah, well, when you’re stupid enough to write death threats in black and white—using your actual first and last name—right in front of 100k readers, you’re asking for it. 😁

They should be arrested simply because they lack basic common sense. 😬

shadowrider21 said:🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.

That's more of a political question, isn't it? And until that gets fixed—if it ever does—it's anyone for themselves.

shadowrider21 said:🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.

Let's say everything was fine until he started playing games. I knew exactly who he was, but he caught me off guard with a sob story—said he needed it for his kid, all tears and drama and whatnot.

Once I realized the money wasn't going where it was supposed to, and instead he was out there boozing and bragging about how he'd screwed over a bunch of people—and nobody had the guts to demand their money back—well, since I actually needed that cash, I decided to take things into my own hands. A bit more... hands-on, you could say.

shadowrider21 said:🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.

My bad. Total slip-up on my part.

shadowrider21 said:🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.

I know he won’t—even if my little stunt really rattled him. I heard through the grapevine that he was throwing around all these threats, but let’s be real: that’s just the standard playbook for guys like him. It’s all about trying to intimidate people from a distance. But when the moment actually comes to step up and do something? They always end up being smaller than a grain of sand.

shadowrider21 said:🤣 🤣

I can't quite wrap my head around whether Centaur is actually...
Top-tier trolling. 😁
2) Legal consultant
3) An ex-con who spent his entire sentence deep-diving into the legal code while sitting in a cell, or...
This guy is a complete joke. On one hand, he’s naive enough to actually lend cash to a criminal, but then he flips the script like some hardcore tactical operator, busting into houses at 2 AM wearing a balaclava. It makes zero sense. 🤣

It was just a joke. But honestly? People are actually getting hauled off by the cops for things they post on Meta.

Then figure it out. Seriously. If you can't pull yourself together and make a move, then you’re basically non-existent. If you don't have the guts to take a stand, then just stay home, sit on the couch, and cry about your lost cash while you throw even more money down the drain on losing bets that were dead on arrival.

I'm basically on the same page here. If we don't get the courts and the police under control, people taking the law into their own hands is going to become the rule rather than the exception.

We’re talking about a guy with a rap sheet thick enough to prop up a broken table. We're talking full-blown fraud, robbery, grand theft, and even peddling heroin. Now you think you can just pull some subtle, polite maneuver and tell a criminal like that you're going to sue him in civil court? Give me a break. You don't play nice with people like this. 🤣 The guy’s got a hundred different garnishments against him. His ex even sued him for child support.

Why even bother lending to someone like that? It’s obvious they didn't feel the need to play tough just to secure the cash. They aren't worried about the collection process, and let's be real—your track record isn't exactly stellar either. 🤷

Maybe. Maybe not. Look, you can't play it smart every single second of your life. Sometimes you’re going to get burned. That’s just how it works. But don't go making sweeping generalizations about it. You can't spend your whole existence acting like a cynical cheapskate, either. Just imagine for a second that you actually need a hand one day, and then some friend of yours turns around and gives you the exact same line you've been feeding them. Think about that.

Friends are one thing—I specifically wrote "acquaintances."

But if this guy is such a stubborn criminal, how can you be sure he won't come after you for revenge? 🤔

The cops bluffing is a different story entirely. I’ve sat through dozens of those interrogations. As long as you stick to your guns and don't fall for their little games, they have nothing. You have my word on that.

So, 3) 😬
Or maybe even...
5) (ex-) cop?

And let's be real, in my situation, the cops couldn't care less about some dealer or con artist.

Unless they're buddies, because half of them are probably deep in it anyway.

Neither one, honestly. I’m no criminal—and I'm definitely not some stool pigeon. If I had to pick? More like military type, but that’s ancient history at this point—a total wash.

The eternal self-indulgent—just always stuck in their own little loop, isn't it? Charles Jones3 says:
Unless they’re actually tight with them—because let's be honest, half of those people are already neck-deep in legal trouble over there anyway.

Honestly? This is way past its expiration date. It’s ancient history at this point—like, we're talking prehistoric. 😬
shadowrider21 shadowrider21 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Charles Jones3 said:Who knows... 🤔

Yeah, well, when you’re stupid enough to write death threats in black and white—using your actual first and last name—right in front of 100k readers, you’re asking for it. 😁

They should be arrested simply because they lack basic common sense. 😬

That's more of a political question, isn't it? And until that gets fixed—if it ever does—it's anyone for themselves.

Let's say everything was fine until he started playing games. I knew exactly who he was, but he caught me off guard with a sob story—said he needed it for his kid, all tears and drama and whatnot.

Once I realized the money wasn't going where it was supposed to, and instead he was out there boozing and bragging about how he'd screwed over a bunch of people—and nobody had the guts to demand their money back—well, since I actually needed that cash, I decided to take things into my own hands. A bit more... hands-on, you could say.

My bad. Total slip-up on my part.

I know he won’t—even if my little stunt really rattled him. I heard through the grapevine that he was throwing around all these threats, but let’s be real: that’s just the standard playbook for guys like him. It’s all about trying to intimidate people from a distance. But when the moment actually comes to step up and do something? They always end up being smaller than a grain of sand.

Neither one, honestly. I’m no criminal—and I'm definitely not some stool pigeon. If I had to pick? More like military type, but that’s ancient history at this point—a total wash.

The eternal self-indulgent—just always stuck in their own little loop, isn't it? Charles Jones3 says:
Unless they’re actually tight with them—because let's be honest, half of those people are already neck-deep in legal trouble over there anyway.

Honestly? This is way past its expiration date. It’s ancient history at this point—like, we're talking prehistoric. 😬

Looking at his record, he sounds like someone you definitely don't want crossing. At the very least, he's got buddies who have his back.

Neither. I'm no criminal, and I'm certainly no cop. More of a military type, but that was a lifetime ago. It's ancient history now.

Right, military experience. That explains it—either military or police. You can tell by how he talks.
I talk a bigger game than I actually play 😬, otherwise I’d probably be all over the local news by now 😠

That stuff is long expired. 😬

And listen... doing that isn't going to stop the people responsible.
Charles Jones3 Charles Jones3 Member
12 messages
joined Jul 2018
#14 ·
shadowrider21 said:Looking at his record, he sounds like someone you definitely don't want crossing. At the very least, he's got buddies who have his back.

Neither. I'm no criminal, and I'm certainly no cop. More of a military type, but that was a lifetime ago. It's ancient history now.

Right, military experience. That explains it—either military or police. You can tell by how he talks.
I talk a bigger game than I actually play 😬, otherwise I’d probably be all over the local news by now 😠

That stuff is long expired. 😬

And listen... doing that isn't going to stop the people responsible.

Nah, none of that applies here. He and I—well, we reached the end of that road a long time ago.

shadowrider21 said:Looking at his record, he sounds like someone you definitely don't want crossing. At the very least, he's got buddies who have his back.

Neither. I'm no criminal, and I'm certainly no cop. More of a military type, but that was a lifetime ago. It's ancient history now.

Right, military experience. That explains it—either military or police. You can tell by how he talks.
I talk a bigger game than I actually play 😬, otherwise I’d probably be all over the local news by now 😠

That stuff is long expired. 😬

And listen... doing that isn't going to stop the people responsible.

Luckily, my focus these days is strictly on my kid, my job, and my hobbies—plus, I've finally learned how to set some healthy boundaries when it comes to those kinds of relationships.

When it comes to lending money or choosing friends, if I could give anyone one piece of advice, it would be this: pick your inner circle much more carefully.
Gerald Thompson5 Gerald Thompson5 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2018
#15 ·
Look, I’m really not a fan of people playing vigilante or taking justice into their own hands.
If that con artist you're chasing actually had any backbone, he would’ve just stabbed you or knocked you out, then claimed self-defense because you kicked his door down uninvited. And if he were even half as smart as he thinks he is, he’d just hand you over to the cops on a silver platter with a heavy-duty charge for extortion and kidnapping.
Go around acting like that in the States, and you'll end up with a bullet in your head before you can blink.
That’s just not how this works. Don't go egging people on to do something they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting. This isn't anarchy; we have police, courts, and lawyers for a reason. If everyone decided to settle debts by breaking and entering, the whole country would be pure chaos. Besides, who’s to say that guy won't turn the tables on you one day? You break into his place, humiliate him, and suddenly you're the one getting shanked or shot.
Sure, these guys might be scammers and lowlifes, but people acting like you aren't much better. To bust into someone's house wearing a mask, throw them down the stairs, and tie them up... honestly, you'd have to be tripping or just completely unhinged to think that's okay.
Luckily, most people aren't like that. Most folks handle their business without the threats, the violence, or the home invasions. It's just that small group of criminals and psychos—and we all know what kind of mental state those people are in.

Personally, if I knew anyone out there trying to play hero like that, I’d be the first one calling the cops to shut them down.
shadowrider21 shadowrider21 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2021
#16 ·
You're only right about that second guy. You could've gotten even with him, but you were too naive. You really think we can trust the cops? 🤦 Or the justice system? 🤦
And who's the police actually going to bust? They don't give a damn.
Give me a break.

Look, it's not like I'm advocating for personal vendettas every chance we get, but in certain situations, it feels like the only way out—and I don't just mean physical retaliation, there are plenty of other ways to handle it. Anyone telling you otherwise clearly hasn't dealt with real injustice, or they're just painfully delusional.
And let's be real: life isn't some Hollywood movie; it's actually much worse.

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