Tarantino and Fake WWII..

I originally intended to post this under the movies section, but I suppose this leans more toward politics... I recently came across this article in the New York Post... what are your thoughts on this?

http://www.nytimes.com/home/showbiz/3145791/index.do

Rewriting the truth about World War II just to build up walls... I wonder where this is all heading.🙂 🙂

From last night's broadcast:

"Every single one of you owes me a hundred Nazi scalps"—that's how Lieutenant Aldo Raine kicks things off when he's rallying his crew, specifically this squad of American Jews tasked with stirring up total mayhem among the Swabians.

Later on, you see one guy who specializes in cracking Nazi skulls with a baseball bat, and honestly, everyone is just busting their ass to follow through on Aldo's command.
– I have no intention of making a WWII movie that actually looks like a WWII movie – Tarantino said way back when. – This is going to be a modern, gritty flick set during that era.

Is there anything weird about that? It just goes to show that Americans weren't exactly saints all the time... Taking revenge on captured Germans isn't some kind of distortion of historical facts, right? but

"All Germans are evil and need to be killed without mercy—that's basically the driving force for our heroes, this group of American Jews sent deep into occupied Europe."

this whole thing really rubs me the wrong way...

irontiger29 said:From last night's broadcast:

"Every single one of you owes me a hundred Nazi scalps"—that's how Lieutenant Aldo Raine kicks things off when he's rallying his crew, specifically this squad of American Jews tasked with stirring up total mayhem among the Swabians.

Later on, you see one guy who specializes in cracking Nazi skulls with a baseball bat, and honestly, everyone is just busting their ass to follow through on Aldo's command.
– I have no intention of making a WWII movie that actually looks like a WWII movie – Tarantino said way back when. – This is going to be a modern, gritty flick set during that era.

Is there anything weird about that? It just goes to show that Americans weren't exactly saints all the time... Taking revenge on captured Germans isn't some kind of distortion of historical facts, right? but

"All Germans are evil and need to be killed without mercy—that's basically the driving force for our heroes, this group of American Jews sent deep into occupied Europe."

this whole thing really rubs me the wrong way...

To me, this just feels like a setup for the exact opposite effect.

I mean, if you frame it as every single German being evil and deserving of total destruction... then who can actually hold them morally accountable when they decide to fight back in kind?🤷

Morgan Cook10 said:To me, this just feels like a setup for the exact opposite effect.

I mean, if you frame it as every single German being evil and deserving of total destruction... then who can actually hold them morally accountable when they decide to fight back in kind?🤷

That's exactly it. And honestly, I think Quentin Tarantino is an idiot, and his movies definitely reflect that. The only time I actually found anything interesting was when *Inglourious Basterds* came out—and I say "interesting," not necessarily good, because back then it felt like something fresh. Everything since then has just been more of the same garbage.☕

irontiger29 said:From last night's broadcast:

"Every single one of you owes me a hundred Nazi scalps"—that's how Lieutenant Aldo Raine kicks things off when he's rallying his crew, specifically this squad of American Jews tasked with stirring up total mayhem among the Swabians.

Later on, you see one guy who specializes in cracking Nazi skulls with a baseball bat, and honestly, everyone is just busting their ass to follow through on Aldo's command.
– I have no intention of making a WWII movie that actually looks like a WWII movie – Tarantino said way back when. – This is going to be a modern, gritty flick set during that era.

Is there anything weird about that? It just goes to show that Americans weren't exactly saints all the time... Taking revenge on captured Germans isn't some kind of distortion of historical facts, right? but

"All Germans are evil and need to be killed without mercy—that's basically the driving force for our heroes, this group of American Jews sent deep into occupied Europe."

this whole thing really rubs me the wrong way...

Tarantino is wild 🤣🙏🙏

Honestly, I think this movie is actually more about pushing back against that kind of mindset toward Germans and treating all the dead the same. I doubt the audience will be totally "on board" with the main heroes, but if they are, then hats off to Tarantino for exposing them.

Think about it for a second. You have Jews slaughtering Germans in the most brutal ways possible... basically showing what some "right-wing" Jews might still want to do today ("an eye for an eye," right? Revenge is universal). It also shows a mindset that was actually pretty common during WWII. If you look at reality, it's not like the Allies were being gentle—think about the aerial bombings. It was all basically "kill those dirty Nazi Swabians."

I think you have to view this movie as pure fiction—or maybe just an animated version of what the Jewish people always dreamed of doing. In reality, they never truly got their personal revenge against the Germans for the genocide, and it seems like they wanted it a long, long time after World War II ended.

Back then, it just wasn't an option, since West Germany joined NATO almost immediately and became the very first line of defense against the Warsaw Pact and their Iron Curtain.

The only way I can really give them a sense of "poetic justice" is through a screen adaptation like this one.

granitemarlin4 said:I think you have to view this movie as pure fiction—or maybe just an animated version of what the Jewish people always dreamed of doing. In reality, they never truly got their personal revenge against the Germans for the genocide, and it seems like they wanted it a long, long time after World War II ended.

Back then, it just wasn't an option, since West Germany joined NATO almost immediately and became the very first line of defense against the Warsaw Pact and their Iron Curtain.

The only way I can really give them a sense of "poetic justice" is through a screen adaptation like this one.

I'm kind of with you on that.

But I’d bet anything that the average German watching this will walk away thinking, "Well, Hico was right—they should just kill them all."☕

Morgan Cook10 said:I'm kind of with you on that.

But I’d bet anything that the average German watching this will walk away thinking, "Well, Hico was right—they should just kill them all."☕

Exactly... there’s going to be a massive backfire—and honestly, it won't just affect the Germans. For instance, when someone in China who isn't really well-informed watches that movie, they might just think, "Ahhaaa, so that's why the Germans wanted to get rid of them." 😂

Maybe that movie actually carries an antisemitic undertone—it’s just that nobody seems to be pointing it out, right? 😍

What’s yours? Are you actually taking a Tarantino movie as some kind of serious political or historical reference?! Do you honestly think Mexicans just turn into vampires out of pride or something??? What does any of this have to do with politics—I mean, I really don't get it...

granitepilot2 said:What’s yours? Are you actually taking a Tarantino movie as some kind of serious political or historical reference?! Do you honestly think Mexicans just turn into vampires out of pride or something??? What does any of this have to do with politics—I mean, I really don't get it...

Look, if those Germans were actually tearing down walls everywhere they went in that movie, I bet the whole world would be calling it a "historical masterpiece."😁

Let’s try looking at it this way... imagine if in that movie, the Walls were actually killing Americans!!

I can get behind that, but honestly—that’s the whole issue right there—and it has nothing to do with Tarantino. Those ultra-nationalists in Philly won't let anyone touch them unless the author criticizing them (and painting them in a bad light) happens to be a Jew...

granitepilot2 said:I can get behind that, but honestly—that’s the whole issue right there—and it has nothing to do with Tarantino. Those ultra-nationalists in Philly won't let anyone touch them unless the author criticizing them (and painting them in a bad light) happens to be a Jew...

Are you trying to tell me that Quentin Tarantino is actually of Jewish descent?
(I honestly thought he wasn't, but hey, life is full of surprises, right?) 😂

granitemarlin4 said:Are you trying to tell me that Quentin Tarantino is actually of Jewish descent?
(I honestly thought he wasn't, but hey, life is full of surprises, right?) 😂

No, I'm saying he's just the guy who signed off on the article in that link.