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hollowpilot9 says: If there exists a consciousness that—for whatever reason—constitutes our three-dimensional Universe, can we then consider the possibility that within us lies the seed of a consciousness that makes a world without time or space!?
It’s perhaps that realm that completely encloses our 3-D world.
Like a larger sphere containing a smaller one inside it.
But since the larger and smaller spheres aren't rotating in the same direction, the smaller one ends up creating its own distinct reality.
That reality might be spatially and temporally limited, meaning all movements, shifts, and changes within it would be nothing more than a total ILLUSION.
hollowpilot9: I think you’ve hit on the core issue here! All these debates regarding consciousness, intellect, and intuition basically fall apart if 3D perception remains the absolute rule—if the 3D world holds total sway. Until the MIND LEAPS OUT of 3D space, there are no solutions. Let me share a bit of this text:
Greek geometers were the ones who first identified and introduced three-dimensional geometry into our awareness. Plato’s shapes, featuring the elementary tetrahedron, are essentially the result of that Greek 3D perception of space. This eventually leads to EUCLIDEAN THREE-DIMENSIONAL GEOMETRY, which only recognizes length, width, and height, while DEPTH is just... forgotten. A mathematician or geometer might argue: "It isn't hard for us to visualize one-dimensional, two-dimensional, and three-dimensional (Euclidean) space: a line, a plane, and a volume, respectively." But notice how this geometer "forgets" the POINT from which the line—that one-dimensional space—actually began?
It took over a thousand years before anyone even started talking about the fourth dimension of space. Because of Einstein's authority, his specific take on this "understanding"—where time is merely a fourth spatial dimension—has persisted to this day. It’s only really in the last decade that we're seeing a resurgence of observations regarding the "sacred quaternary," a concept introduced to the mind by the Pythagoreans with their famous tetractys. We are seeing entirely new perspectives on dimensional space, and the biggest game-changer is quantum wave physics, which posits:
The Fourth Dimension, space-time continuum, is reality. In the fourth dimension the infinite number of solids in the universe are in relationship with each other through time and energy. In the time domain, the fourth dimension continues the movement of the third dimension ( past to form a wave, constituting fractally the space-time continuum.
The fourth dimension is the home of complex numbers and fractal geometry. Unlike the other dimensions, the fourth is the real world in which we live. It is the space time continuum of man and nature where there is constant change based on feedback. As Mandelbrot recently discovered the fourth dimension includes not only the first three dimensions, but also the gaps or intervals between them, the fractal dimensions.
Beyond points that are undefined in space, mathematicians have noticed something practical: in the winter, people wear gloves; a left one on the left hand and a right one on the right. If you move a left glove across a two-dimensional plane—say, a tabletop—it stays a left glove. To turn it into a right glove within that same plane, you’d have to "invert" it, or flip it inside out. Only then would the inner side of the left glove become the outer side, turning it into a right glove, and vice versa. So, if you happened to have two left gloves, an inversion (a flipping) of one would be enough to get you a right one. However, it’s possible to make a left glove a right one without actually flipping the glove itself, but rather by flipping the very space the glove occupies. If you lift one of those two left gloves off the table, rotate it 180° around an axis parallel to the table, and set it back down, you get a right glove. It’s the same logic as when we "stubbornly" assume something is on the right side of our right hand, yet the moment we start spinning around, our right becomes left and our left becomes right. It’s why when two people talk face-to-face, both think they are using their right hand, when for one speaker, the other person's right side is actually their left. That’s why people shake hands DIAGONALLY rather than "vertically"! Therefore, space is clearly DUAL rather than single, despite what we usually think. The realization is that we have space within space—two spaces that are inverses of one another. This is certainly a massive innovation in how we understand and interpret space, one that will increasingly earn its "citizenship" in the 21st century. This innovation exists within the framework of a non-linear, four-dimensional perception of space and the world!
So, if you're stuck in a two-dimensional space, you're basically looking at flat planes—kind of like a single sheet of paper sitting on my desk. To actually escape that flat, triangular 2D elementary space, you’d have to move in "height" or "depth" toward some kind of FOURTH point, let's call it point D. Most of us instinctively go "up" rather than "down," probably because we've been conditioned for thousands of years to walk on what we perceive as "flat earth." But if you look at the basic two-dimensionality of a triangle, it follows that 2D space is actually a fractal function—which essentially makes it just one face of a tetrahedron, serving as the elementary 3D fractal of the entire universe. This idea is backed up by this English text:
in the fourth dimension the infinite number of solids in the universe are in relationship with each other through time and energy. This can be expressed in terms of "fractal scaling," from the infinite small to the infinite big, perpendicular to the other dimensions and including the intervals or fractal dimensions between them. The meaning of fractal scaling for now it is sufficient to understand this as scales of magnitude, as for instance from the size of the atom to the size of a galaxy.
The ELEMENTARY 3D SHAPE IS A TETRAHEDRON, not a sphere like a lot of people assume! A tetrahedron is actually the ELEMENTARY SPATIAL FRACTAL OF THE UNIVERSE... Regarding this shape, Buckminster Fuller once said:
The four-cornered tetrahedron is the minimum structural system in Universe. It excludes all the irrelevant information of Universe and includes all the information relevant to the system.
Meanwhile, another text points out the following:
Tetrahedron is a very special structure from the point of view of General Systems, as it is the bonding structure of carbon and represents a diamond crystal. Carbon and its 4x3 structure, which is reflected twice in its nucleus, once in its electron shell, and a 4th time in its tetrahedral bonding pattern, is the pivotal structure which connects the astrophysical realm (through the alpha particle and the nucleosynthetic pathway of element formation) to the biological realm (through organic chemistry and DNA).
I hope this provides enough insight into how our mentality—which includes our intellect and our sensory perception—is woven in a four-dimensional way, rather than the three-dimensional way we still mistakenly believe? Symbolically speaking, the Pythagoreans relied on the "sacred quaternary," then the "sacred trinity" arrived and took over, and now we find ourselves returning to the "sacred quaternary" thanks to the flood of new discoveries everywhere. In order to move toward that complementary, polar, dual consciousness that is our true nature, we first have to resolve the whole "hand and glove" problem—the tetrahedron versus the sphere, polarity, masculine and feminine. Ultimately, we have to recognize our four-fold construction and organization, from our teeth down to our reproductive organs, and from our brains to our DNA structure. Our linear perception of the world is exactly what prevents us from seeing this; it's what relentlessly seduces us into believing that the world looks exactly the way we see it with our eyes. Only when we realize there is an inverse world to the one we see does consciousness truly enter the space of reality—of NON-ILLUSION! That’s why I say: Intellectuals, especially philosophers, have a massive chance right now to become locomotives instead of mere freight cars! That's my constant message. Philosophers simply need to step OUT of 3D perceptions and start flipping them—performing inversions just like a philosopher's brain does automatically, without even knowing or consenting to it. Here in the philosophy department, it seems somewhat possible, but on the science forum, it's a total disaster. Right now, they are openly mocking the GLOBAL BRAIN—the SUPERBRAIN—but in doing so, they are actually mocking themselves, reducing science to mere verbalism and triviality without any substance.
It’s perhaps that realm that completely encloses our 3-D world.
Like a larger sphere containing a smaller one inside it.
But since the larger and smaller spheres aren't rotating in the same direction, the smaller one ends up creating its own distinct reality.
That reality might be spatially and temporally limited, meaning all movements, shifts, and changes within it would be nothing more than a total ILLUSION.
hollowpilot9: I think you’ve hit on the core issue here! All these debates regarding consciousness, intellect, and intuition basically fall apart if 3D perception remains the absolute rule—if the 3D world holds total sway. Until the MIND LEAPS OUT of 3D space, there are no solutions. Let me share a bit of this text:
Greek geometers were the ones who first identified and introduced three-dimensional geometry into our awareness. Plato’s shapes, featuring the elementary tetrahedron, are essentially the result of that Greek 3D perception of space. This eventually leads to EUCLIDEAN THREE-DIMENSIONAL GEOMETRY, which only recognizes length, width, and height, while DEPTH is just... forgotten. A mathematician or geometer might argue: "It isn't hard for us to visualize one-dimensional, two-dimensional, and three-dimensional (Euclidean) space: a line, a plane, and a volume, respectively." But notice how this geometer "forgets" the POINT from which the line—that one-dimensional space—actually began?
It took over a thousand years before anyone even started talking about the fourth dimension of space. Because of Einstein's authority, his specific take on this "understanding"—where time is merely a fourth spatial dimension—has persisted to this day. It’s only really in the last decade that we're seeing a resurgence of observations regarding the "sacred quaternary," a concept introduced to the mind by the Pythagoreans with their famous tetractys. We are seeing entirely new perspectives on dimensional space, and the biggest game-changer is quantum wave physics, which posits:
The Fourth Dimension, space-time continuum, is reality. In the fourth dimension the infinite number of solids in the universe are in relationship with each other through time and energy. In the time domain, the fourth dimension continues the movement of the third dimension ( past to form a wave, constituting fractally the space-time continuum.
The fourth dimension is the home of complex numbers and fractal geometry. Unlike the other dimensions, the fourth is the real world in which we live. It is the space time continuum of man and nature where there is constant change based on feedback. As Mandelbrot recently discovered the fourth dimension includes not only the first three dimensions, but also the gaps or intervals between them, the fractal dimensions.
Beyond points that are undefined in space, mathematicians have noticed something practical: in the winter, people wear gloves; a left one on the left hand and a right one on the right. If you move a left glove across a two-dimensional plane—say, a tabletop—it stays a left glove. To turn it into a right glove within that same plane, you’d have to "invert" it, or flip it inside out. Only then would the inner side of the left glove become the outer side, turning it into a right glove, and vice versa. So, if you happened to have two left gloves, an inversion (a flipping) of one would be enough to get you a right one. However, it’s possible to make a left glove a right one without actually flipping the glove itself, but rather by flipping the very space the glove occupies. If you lift one of those two left gloves off the table, rotate it 180° around an axis parallel to the table, and set it back down, you get a right glove. It’s the same logic as when we "stubbornly" assume something is on the right side of our right hand, yet the moment we start spinning around, our right becomes left and our left becomes right. It’s why when two people talk face-to-face, both think they are using their right hand, when for one speaker, the other person's right side is actually their left. That’s why people shake hands DIAGONALLY rather than "vertically"! Therefore, space is clearly DUAL rather than single, despite what we usually think. The realization is that we have space within space—two spaces that are inverses of one another. This is certainly a massive innovation in how we understand and interpret space, one that will increasingly earn its "citizenship" in the 21st century. This innovation exists within the framework of a non-linear, four-dimensional perception of space and the world!
So, if you're stuck in a two-dimensional space, you're basically looking at flat planes—kind of like a single sheet of paper sitting on my desk. To actually escape that flat, triangular 2D elementary space, you’d have to move in "height" or "depth" toward some kind of FOURTH point, let's call it point D. Most of us instinctively go "up" rather than "down," probably because we've been conditioned for thousands of years to walk on what we perceive as "flat earth." But if you look at the basic two-dimensionality of a triangle, it follows that 2D space is actually a fractal function—which essentially makes it just one face of a tetrahedron, serving as the elementary 3D fractal of the entire universe. This idea is backed up by this English text:
in the fourth dimension the infinite number of solids in the universe are in relationship with each other through time and energy. This can be expressed in terms of "fractal scaling," from the infinite small to the infinite big, perpendicular to the other dimensions and including the intervals or fractal dimensions between them. The meaning of fractal scaling for now it is sufficient to understand this as scales of magnitude, as for instance from the size of the atom to the size of a galaxy.
The ELEMENTARY 3D SHAPE IS A TETRAHEDRON, not a sphere like a lot of people assume! A tetrahedron is actually the ELEMENTARY SPATIAL FRACTAL OF THE UNIVERSE... Regarding this shape, Buckminster Fuller once said:
The four-cornered tetrahedron is the minimum structural system in Universe. It excludes all the irrelevant information of Universe and includes all the information relevant to the system.
Meanwhile, another text points out the following:
Tetrahedron is a very special structure from the point of view of General Systems, as it is the bonding structure of carbon and represents a diamond crystal. Carbon and its 4x3 structure, which is reflected twice in its nucleus, once in its electron shell, and a 4th time in its tetrahedral bonding pattern, is the pivotal structure which connects the astrophysical realm (through the alpha particle and the nucleosynthetic pathway of element formation) to the biological realm (through organic chemistry and DNA).
I hope this provides enough insight into how our mentality—which includes our intellect and our sensory perception—is woven in a four-dimensional way, rather than the three-dimensional way we still mistakenly believe? Symbolically speaking, the Pythagoreans relied on the "sacred quaternary," then the "sacred trinity" arrived and took over, and now we find ourselves returning to the "sacred quaternary" thanks to the flood of new discoveries everywhere. In order to move toward that complementary, polar, dual consciousness that is our true nature, we first have to resolve the whole "hand and glove" problem—the tetrahedron versus the sphere, polarity, masculine and feminine. Ultimately, we have to recognize our four-fold construction and organization, from our teeth down to our reproductive organs, and from our brains to our DNA structure. Our linear perception of the world is exactly what prevents us from seeing this; it's what relentlessly seduces us into believing that the world looks exactly the way we see it with our eyes. Only when we realize there is an inverse world to the one we see does consciousness truly enter the space of reality—of NON-ILLUSION! That’s why I say: Intellectuals, especially philosophers, have a massive chance right now to become locomotives instead of mere freight cars! That's my constant message. Philosophers simply need to step OUT of 3D perceptions and start flipping them—performing inversions just like a philosopher's brain does automatically, without even knowing or consenting to it. Here in the philosophy department, it seems somewhat possible, but on the science forum, it's a total disaster. Right now, they are openly mocking the GLOBAL BRAIN—the SUPERBRAIN—but in doing so, they are actually mocking themselves, reducing science to mere verbalism and triviality without any substance.