The Jules Bianchi accident

Man, what a mess...

Forza Jules!

The image clearly shows the roll bar behind his head being ripped out; for that kind of damage to occur, the impact had to be absolutely massive.

When you take a step back, the whole thing looks pretty grim 😢

#KeepFightingJules

Terry Carter2 said:It's wild that he just punctured the rear right tire on an excavator!
Total disaster overall!

Honestly, it’s not nearly as bad as I thought before seeing the photo.

Bianchi basically just scraped against the excavator

Unlike Villota, who slammed straight into a truck

The difference is massive—Villota's car stopped dead, sending all that impact energy right into his helmet after it clipped the truck's ramp

Bianchi’s helmet just grazed the excavator—way less energy transferred into his head

You can tell just by looking at the helmet itself

While Villota’s helmet was crushed—along with everything underneath it

Seeing this pic actually gives me a bit of optimism regarding my predictions.

Before I saw the shot, I was certain the crash was fatal.

This is in the same realm as Schumacher's injury—with one huge distinction: Bianchi got surgery immediately. Unlike Schumacher, who waited too long—which is exactly why he’s still sleeping and will be until the end.

ruggedhawk20 said:Honestly, it’s not nearly as bad as I thought before seeing the photo.

Bianchi basically just scraped against the excavator

Unlike Villota, who slammed straight into a truck

The difference is massive—Villota's car stopped dead, sending all that impact energy right into his helmet after it clipped the truck's ramp

Bianchi’s helmet just grazed the excavator—way less energy transferred into his head

You can tell just by looking at the helmet itself

While Villota’s helmet was crushed—along with everything underneath it

Seeing this pic actually gives me a bit of optimism regarding my predictions.

Before I saw the shot, I was certain the crash was fatal.

This is in the same realm as Schumacher's injury—with one huge distinction: Bianchi got surgery immediately. Unlike Schumacher, who waited too long—which is exactly why he’s still sleeping and will be until the end.

It isn't quite that simple. I mean, sure, it's true it would have been better if Jules had been rushed straight to the hospital in Grenoble instead of losing time by stopping at the wrong facility first, but I wouldn't say the injuries are in the same league. Jules had a massive amount of hematomas and lesions all over—left, right, and center. It really matters what kind they are and where they are located, since that determines which parts of the brain are hit and whether the critical centers are affected. There are just so many variables involved beyond just how fast the surgery happened...

So, honestly, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Jules's injuries are significantly less severe than Schumacher's... and I'm hoping the hospital releases some more concrete info soon...

cosmicridge5 said:It isn't quite that simple. I mean, sure, it's true it would have been better if Jules had been rushed straight to the hospital in Grenoble instead of losing time by stopping at the wrong facility first, but I wouldn't say the injuries are in the same league. Jules had a massive amount of hematomas and lesions all over—left, right, and center. It really matters what kind they are and where they are located, since that determines which parts of the brain are hit and whether the critical centers are affected. There are just so many variables involved beyond just how fast the surgery happened...

So, honestly, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Jules's injuries are significantly less severe than Schumacher's... and I'm hoping the hospital releases some more concrete info soon...

The guy slammed into a construction vehicle. Just look at what's left of the car.

Schumacher fell while skiing with his family.

Head injuries are a nightmare. You can fall off a bike and die, or smash a motorcycle into a semi and walk away. I personally know people who've done both.

The brain is way too complex to say for sure which impact is fatal.

But one thing's for sure: when there's brain swelling, any delay in surgery is bad news for the patient.

Besides, I'm being an optimist because my first thought was that this was a repeat of de Villota's accident.

If you don't know the details of de Villota's crash, just Google it.

Bottom line? Bianchi got off much, much easier.

Plus, Schumacher ended up with a ton of hematomas and lesions mostly because they waited too long on the surgery—his brain swelled so much it basically crushed itself. That’s where those injuries came from, not from hitting the barrier initially. Based on whatever physics I know, that impact was probably way less intense than what Bianchi went through.

To me, the whole situation looks less like a head injury and more like a severe cervical spine issue.

This is the only reconstruction I could find, though who knows how accurate it actually is.


I’ve been hunting for footage of the crash myself, but there’s nothing on YouTube. It looks like the FIA is scrubbing any clips they can find. Plus, there's always the question of whether they'll even let the official footage go public.

ruggedhawk20 said:The guy slammed into a construction vehicle. Just look at what's left of the car.

Schumacher fell while skiing with his family.

Head injuries are a nightmare. You can fall off a bike and die, or smash a motorcycle into a semi and walk away. I personally know people who've done both.

The brain is way too complex to say for sure which impact is fatal.

But one thing's for sure: when there's brain swelling, any delay in surgery is bad news for the patient.

Besides, I'm being an optimist because my first thought was that this was a repeat of de Villota's accident.

If you don't know the details of de Villota's crash, just Google it.

Bottom line? Bianchi got off much, much easier.

Yeah, but then again, maybe Šumi had a pretty pointless run too, just like Bianchi. Cutting edge. Look at that helmet. Just look at what it actually saved Massu from.

Moving forward. I suppose I’m being an optimist here, mostly because my first thought was that we were seeing a repeat of what happened to Villota.

If you aren't familiar with the specifics of what happened to Villota, maybe just do a quick Google search.

No, I honestly have no idea who Villota is. 😬

I guess I'll just look it up on Google.

It’s all about the head injury, really, but if there was any kind of whiplash involved, it wouldn't be surprising at all that he had to stop right where he did...

Still, they have that HANS device, so hopefully that managed to prevent some much worse neck injuries from happening.

Hang in there, Jules. We're right behind you.

Sam633 said:I'm not trying to be funny here—honestly, I just don't get what they're even saying.

Are you saying you actually knew him personally?

Look, I've seen guys wipe out on bikes and others smash into semi-trucks on motorcycles

Plus at least a hundred other people in the same boat. I spent three years driving an ambulance, so I've seen it all.

honestly, this is actually great news

http://www.lequipe.fr/info-continue/bianchi/97363

so it says here

4:21 PM
No updates until tomorrow

3:16 PM
Surgery complete

1:30 PM
Diagnosis confirmed

1:06 PM
The accident involving Jules Bianchi

basically, from the diagnosis to finishing surgery, it was just over an hour and a half—meaning the whole thing probably only took 45 minutes

Which is good, because it sounds like they just did that standard procedure where they drill into the skull to drain fluid and relieve pressure. No major brain trauma reported yet, just the fluid drainage part

So, I’m already calling it—I think he'll pull through just like Daniel Albrecht did

That would be a massive win.

but this is actually wild

13:30
Medical diagnosis confirmation

13:06
The accident of Danica Patrick

props to the Japanese. Not like those idiots from Meribel

it took the Japanese 24 minutes—the French took 24 hours

ruggedhawk20 said:Plus, Schumacher ended up with a ton of hematomas and lesions mostly because they waited too long on the surgery—his brain swelled so much it basically crushed itself. That’s where those injuries came from, not from hitting the barrier initially. Based on whatever physics I know, that impact was probably way less intense than what Bianchi went through.

Ugh, Joe, why are you just talking out of your hat? I feel like I've told you before that the pathophysiology of head trauma isn't exactly that simple, lol. But look, if you actually want me to walk you through TBI and how acceleration and deceleration affect tissue—or if you want to know the actual difference between contusions, intracerebral and subarachnoid hemorrhages, and epidural versus subdural hematomas—just shoot me a DM. I'd be happy to go over it; I can pull from the textbooks, but I also have some real-world experience to draw from. 😬

Those lesions and bruises came from somewhere else. They definitely didn't come from that initial impact with the rock.

Ugh, why do you love lecturing people on things you aren't even qualified to talk about? It’s not like we're even in the same league. 🤣 That’s not actually how it works, so please stop spreading misinformation. That increase in intracranial pressure is caused by edema, not by elevated pressure causing hematomas like you suggested. 😁The pressure from a hematoma pushing against brain tissue can lead to elevated intracranial pressure—which is why you see those spikes in IBM levels. In cases like this, we’re usually looking at an acute subdural hematoma, where bleeding occurs between the dura and the arachnoid mater. Most of these hematomas happen suddenly, almost instantly, typically within that first minute. Based on what you've laid out, it sounds like you're suggesting there are only secondary head traumas involved. If that injury opened up that quickly, I guess there wouldn't have been any initial trauma at all? Maybe. 😁

What you're describing sounds like secondary brain trauma—essentially a chain of complications that build on top of the primary injury and can make things worse. But it’s definitely not as straightforward as you’ve made it out to be. Honestly, maybe just skip posts like this; you might actually end up being taken seriously if you don't. 😁

P.S. Ivy, you can see that I'm actually a better neurosurgeon than you are. 🙂

ruggedhawk20 said:but this is actually wild

13:30
Medical diagnosis confirmation

13:06
The accident of Danica Patrick

props to the Japanese. Not like those idiots from Meribel

it took the Japanese 24 minutes—the French took 24 hours

The Japanese might actually be world champions at emergency response; they’ve basically perfected the whole field.

It’s no surprise they have that kind of authority, given how much respect the Japanese command.

cosmicridge5 said:Ugh, Joe, why are you just talking out of your hat? I feel like I've told you before that the pathophysiology of head trauma isn't exactly that simple, lol. But look, if you actually want me to walk you through TBI and how acceleration and deceleration affect tissue—or if you want to know the actual difference between contusions, intracerebral and subarachnoid hemorrhages, and epidural versus subdural hematomas—just shoot me a DM. I'd be happy to go over it; I can pull from the textbooks, but I also have some real-world experience to draw from. 😬

Those lesions and bruises came from somewhere else. They definitely didn't come from that initial impact with the rock.

Ugh, why do you love lecturing people on things you aren't even qualified to talk about? It’s not like we're even in the same league. 🤣 That’s not actually how it works, so please stop spreading misinformation. That increase in intracranial pressure is caused by edema, not by elevated pressure causing hematomas like you suggested. 😁The pressure from a hematoma pushing against brain tissue can lead to elevated intracranial pressure—which is why you see those spikes in IBM levels. In cases like this, we’re usually looking at an acute subdural hematoma, where bleeding occurs between the dura and the arachnoid mater. Most of these hematomas happen suddenly, almost instantly, typically within that first minute. Based on what you've laid out, it sounds like you're suggesting there are only secondary head traumas involved. If that injury opened up that quickly, I guess there wouldn't have been any initial trauma at all? Maybe. 😁

What you're describing sounds like secondary brain trauma—essentially a chain of complications that build on top of the primary injury and can make things worse. But it’s definitely not as straightforward as you’ve made it out to be. Honestly, maybe just skip posts like this; you might actually end up being taken seriously if you don't. 😁

P.S. Ivy, you can see that I'm actually a better neurosurgeon than you are. 🙂

Ever held a power drill? - nope.

Studied medicine? - nope.

BTW you probably don't realize they mostly use the same damn drill bit a guy uses to hang a picture frame in his living room - but sure, go off.

Chris Robinson25 said:It’s no surprise they have that kind of authority, given how much respect the Japanese command.

Honestly, I’m just floored by how fast that medical crew moved. Major props there.

If he survives at all, he owes it entirely to them.

As for Charlie Whiting—get him out of here. What an absolute moron. First, he runs the race under a safety car when conditions are basically begging for intermediates... and then he lets a tractor drag the car away instead of using a crane.