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The "no bra" phenomenon

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Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Why do they always blur or pixelate women's breasts on TV or in photos?

Or even worse, when you see a breast but the nipple is blurred out! ๐Ÿ˜•
Itโ€™s funny because men can show their nipples just fine, but women can't, even though it's basically the same thing!

Why is a breast treated like a "sexual organ"? It makes it seem like they're directly tied to sex and arousal, as if showing a breast is the same as showing genitals!

Besides, if breasts weren't considered taboo, they probably wouldn't be such a huge focus of male fantasy. (Some studies suggest that in parts of Africa where women walk around bare-chested, men aren't obsessed with them; they just see it as a symbol of femininity).
Plus, it feels like no other culture views breasts as sexual to the extreme extent that Western culture does!

I've seen how my girlfriends react when they see a woman breastfeeding! Women actually get shocked by it themselves. It's like people think it's something that should only happen in a bathroom, like using the toilet! Honestly, most women won't even try nursing a baby in public just to avoid being judged!

In many tribes, it's totally normal for women to show their breasts, and nobody thinks, "Oh my god, she's naked!"
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Itโ€™s also super interesting that a woman who doesn't have much of a chestโ€”basically flat like a guyโ€”still can't show her chest, while a man with gynecomastia can show his! So, it tells me it isn't about the breast itself, but rather the idea of a woman being "naked" or exposed!

I feel like we've gone WAY too far with hiding breasts. We turn them into this mysterious, exciting, hidden thing, when at the end of the dayโ€”it's just a breast. ๐Ÿค”
I'm curious what you all think about this...
Why is it considered shameful for someone to see a breast (other than a partner)?
How did we even get to this point?
And why is breastfeeding in front of others supposed to be embarrassing?

I have my own theory that society hides breasts just to make them more sexually attractive, but I'd love to hear your thoughts...
wiredridge152 wiredridge152 Member
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#2 ·
Look, just because something is easy to find doesn't mean it's actually within reach, right? ๐Ÿ˜
If I could just spend my entire day staring at gorgeous women, I wouldn't be able to focus on anything else once I actually hit the streets...
And don't even get me started on seeing old ladies walking around undressed... ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
A little empathy goes a long way, people... ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
Nathan Kim10 Nathan Kim10 Active Member
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#3 ·
wiredridge152 said:Look, just because something is easy to find doesn't mean it's actually within reach, right? ๐Ÿ˜
If I could just spend my entire day staring at gorgeous women, I wouldn't be able to focus on anything else once I actually hit the streets...
And don't even get me started on seeing old ladies walking around undressed... ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
A little empathy goes a long way, people... ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜

I'm with them. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
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#4 ·
African American women often go without bras, and by the time they hit their 30s, things tend to sag, leaving them looking like just a bit of loose skin hanging there.
Back in the Middle Ages, even showing an inch of skin was considered scandalous since shorts weren't really a thing; even the slightest glimpse could trigger some wild fantasies.
So, it isn't really about breasts themselves; itโ€™s more about how society decided to draw lines in the sand, labeling certain things as taboo while letting others slide...
Forbidden fruit is always the sweetest, which explains why people around here find breasts so incredibly enticing.

If the tables turnedโ€”if feet suddenly became "forbidden" and breasts were treated as totally mundaneโ€”I honestly think the obsession would shift toward feet overnight...
Now, why exactly did society decide that breasts were the forbidden zone instead of feet? Well... who knows.

But look, if we declared that women could dress like menโ€”meaning walking around shirtlessโ€”I bet men would lose their minds at first, but eventually, they'd be just as indifferent as people are toward what happens in Africa.โ˜•
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Brenda Cooper3 said:African American women often go without bras, and by the time they hit their 30s, things tend to sag, leaving them looking like just a bit of loose skin hanging there.
Back in the Middle Ages, even showing an inch of skin was considered scandalous since shorts weren't really a thing; even the slightest glimpse could trigger some wild fantasies.
So, it isn't really about breasts themselves; itโ€™s more about how society decided to draw lines in the sand, labeling certain things as taboo while letting others slide...
Forbidden fruit is always the sweetest, which explains why people around here find breasts so incredibly enticing.

If the tables turnedโ€”if feet suddenly became "forbidden" and breasts were treated as totally mundaneโ€”I honestly think the obsession would shift toward feet overnight...
Now, why exactly did society decide that breasts were the forbidden zone instead of feet? Well... who knows.

But look, if we declared that women could dress like menโ€”meaning walking around shirtlessโ€”I bet men would lose their minds at first, but eventually, they'd be just as indifferent as people are toward what happens in Africa.โ˜•

Exactly! That's basically what I was saying earlier!

So, the big question is WHY DOES SOCIETY PUSH THIS???? So much has changed in the modern era, but this feels stuck in the Middle Ages!
I hear you... โ˜•
Jamie Cox12 Jamie Cox12 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Iโ€™m with you on those old-timers ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
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#7 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Exactly! That's basically what I was saying earlier!

So, the big question is WHY DOES SOCIETY PUSH THIS???? So much has changed in the modern era, but this feels stuck in the Middle Ages!
I hear you... โ˜•

Established norms are notoriously difficult to shift, especially when thereโ€™s no perceived necessity to do so. ๐Ÿคท

Let me put it this way: imagine you have a favorite dessert.
Do you eat it every single day?

Will it still be your favorite after a month of overindulging?

Iโ€™d argue that African Americans lose out significantly because they didn't push for women to wear bras.
Some things are beautiful, yet people fail to appreciate that beauty until it's gone. Itโ€™s often better to act as if a treasure is hidden... we can always play the part of clever pirates on a stormy sea... forever ๐Ÿ˜
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#8 ·
Brenda Cooper3 said:Established norms are notoriously difficult to shift, especially when thereโ€™s no perceived necessity to do so. ๐Ÿคท

Let me put it this way: imagine you have a favorite dessert.
Do you eat it every single day?

Will it still be your favorite after a month of overindulging?

Iโ€™d argue that African Americans lose out significantly because they didn't push for women to wear bras.
Some things are beautiful, yet people fail to appreciate that beauty until it's gone. Itโ€™s often better to act as if a treasure is hidden... we can always play the part of clever pirates on a stormy sea... forever ๐Ÿ˜

Honestly, bras are such an old-school invention. Women didn't wear them back then, but they definitely found ways to hide their chests! So it's really not even the same thing.
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
Let's talk about this!

Do you guys think things have gone too far??? It feels like women are treated as sexual objects even when they're just trying to nurse their babies! I've said before that breastfeeding should be done privatelyโ€”like stepping aside or heading to a restroom if you're out and about!

Honestly, it feels like the world has just gone totally crazy.
Nathan Kim10 Nathan Kim10 Active Member
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#10 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Let's talk about this!

Do you guys think things have gone too far??? It feels like women are treated as sexual objects even when they're just trying to nurse their babies! I've said before that breastfeeding should be done privatelyโ€”like stepping aside or heading to a restroom if you're out and about!

Honestly, it feels like the world has just gone totally crazy.

According to Freud, yeah. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#11 ·
Nathan Kim10 said:According to Freud, yeah. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Man, Freud was such an old-school head. To him, even eating a plate of lasagna is some kind of sexual impulse! Where on earth did you find him? ๐Ÿ˜
Nathan Kim10 Nathan Kim10 Active Member
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#12 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Man, Freud was such an old-school head. To him, even eating a plate of lasagna is some kind of sexual impulse! Where on earth did you find him? ๐Ÿ˜

I mean, obviously he'd think it's sexy if a young girl is eating lasagna.๐Ÿ˜‚
Personally, I think it's sexy when a girl eats a banana or licks an ice cream cone.๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
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#13 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Let's talk about this!

Do you guys think things have gone too far??? It feels like women are treated as sexual objects even when they're just trying to nurse their babies! I've said before that breastfeeding should be done privatelyโ€”like stepping aside or heading to a restroom if you're out and about!

Honestly, it feels like the world has just gone totally crazy.

That's not really the issue. The point is about modesty and covering up. I was simply mentioning bras as a tool for that. In Africa, for example, people might use large leaves instead of a bra... it's all the same concept.๐Ÿ˜
electrichound94 electrichound94 Member
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#14 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Exactly! That's basically what I was saying earlier!

So, the big question is WHY DOES SOCIETY PUSH THIS???? So much has changed in the modern era, but this feels stuck in the Middle Ages!
I hear you... โ˜•

And whatโ€™s the alternative? What kind of "modern" social structure are we looking for? A nudist colony?๐Ÿ™„

Honestly, it's a good thing people don't feel the need to hide everything anymore. Personally, I don't see much effort being made to cover up breasts lately.๐Ÿคท On the contrary.
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#15 ·
electrichound94 said:And whatโ€™s the alternative? What kind of "modern" social structure are we looking for? A nudist colony?๐Ÿ™„

Honestly, it's a good thing people don't feel the need to hide everything anymore. Personally, I don't see much effort being made to cover up breasts lately.๐Ÿคท On the contrary.

Some people still try to cover up, which just ends up upsetting all those "moral" citizens out there!

Society doesn't have to be a nudist club, but why does the TV have to censor nipples (while leaving guys alone) ๐Ÿ˜, or why do people roll their eyes when they see a woman breastfeeding...

Besides, guys show off their chests all the time, so it's definitely not a nudist society!!
It's really just about how we were raised, so this feels totally normal to me!
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#16 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Why do they always blur or pixelate women's breasts on TV or in photos?

Or even worse, when you see a breast but the nipple is blurred out! ๐Ÿ˜•
Itโ€™s funny because men can show their nipples just fine, but women can't, even though it's basically the same thing!

Why is a breast treated like a "sexual organ"? It makes it seem like they're directly tied to sex and arousal, as if showing a breast is the same as showing genitals!

Besides, if breasts weren't considered taboo, they probably wouldn't be such a huge focus of male fantasy. (Some studies suggest that in parts of Africa where women walk around bare-chested, men aren't obsessed with them; they just see it as a symbol of femininity).
Plus, it feels like no other culture views breasts as sexual to the extreme extent that Western culture does!

I've seen how my girlfriends react when they see a woman breastfeeding! Women actually get shocked by it themselves. It's like people think it's something that should only happen in a bathroom, like using the toilet! Honestly, most women won't even try nursing a baby in public just to avoid being judged!

In many tribes, it's totally normal for women to show their breasts, and nobody thinks, "Oh my god, she's naked!"
[LINK TO IMAGE REMOVED]

Itโ€™s also super interesting that a woman who doesn't have much of a chestโ€”basically flat like a guyโ€”still can't show her chest, while a man with gynecomastia can show his! So, it tells me it isn't about the breast itself, but rather the idea of a woman being "naked" or exposed!

I feel like we've gone WAY too far with hiding breasts. We turn them into this mysterious, exciting, hidden thing, when at the end of the dayโ€”it's just a breast. ๐Ÿค”
I'm curious what you all think about this...
Why is it considered shameful for someone to see a breast (other than a partner)?
How did we even get to this point?
And why is breastfeeding in front of others supposed to be embarrassing?

I have my own theory that society hides breasts just to make them more sexually attractive, but I'd love to hear your thoughts...

They probably blur it all just to make sure I don't get turned on. They're intentionally sabotaging my sex drive because they've already decided it's something inherently bad. And why wouldn't I get turned on? What am I, some kind of war criminal? Am I not allowed to have a biological reaction anymore? โ˜•
gentlefox18 gentlefox18 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Since the dawn of humanity, even back when we lived in small, primitive tribes, there was always a clear distinction between women with striking, well-developed figures and those who were considered less physically endowed or attractive. It was widely believed that the most beautiful women were reserved exclusively for the wealthiest, strongest, and most influential men in the group. These high-status individuals often kept such women hidden away, viewing everyone else as unworthy of their attention.

This historical dynamic is precisely where the tendency to conceal female attributes originates. In more undeveloped regions of the world, such as parts of sub-Saharan Africa, there is no sense of shame regarding the body because social structures are much flatter; people live more equitably, and no single individual is viewed as superior or more beautiful than another. In those societies, true equality prevails.
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#18 ·
gentlefox18 said:Since the dawn of humanity, even back when we lived in small, primitive tribes, there was always a clear distinction between women with striking, well-developed figures and those who were considered less physically endowed or attractive. It was widely believed that the most beautiful women were reserved exclusively for the wealthiest, strongest, and most influential men in the group. These high-status individuals often kept such women hidden away, viewing everyone else as unworthy of their attention.

This historical dynamic is precisely where the tendency to conceal female attributes originates. In more undeveloped regions of the world, such as parts of sub-Saharan Africa, there is no sense of shame regarding the body because social structures are much flatter; people live more equitably, and no single individual is viewed as superior or more beautiful than another. In those societies, true equality prevails.

What you've just described is nothing more than the social structure of baboons living in a lush green meadow.
gentlefox18 gentlefox18 Newcomer
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#19 ·
Sarah Wood8 said:What you've just described is nothing more than the social structure of baboons living in a lush green meadow.

Well, what exactly is the implication of that?...
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#20 ·
gentlefox18 said:Well, what exactly is the implication of that?...

that people are basically just monkeys

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