This is a disgrace

I honestly question why a thread like this is even allowed to remain on the forum. It’s one thing to host such discussions, but for the moderators to actually chime in and join the celebrations for something we had to dismantle through sheer bloodshed... all while we're just days away from the anniversary of the tragedy in the Midwest... It’s frankly shameful.

Tone it down a notch

I consider Ante Pavelić to be such a dog that I’d probably be speaking Italian today if things had gone his way. But let me remind you all about all those "haha, how funny" and "calm down" comments when I open the "Happy Independence Day" thread on July 4th. Cheers, and stay out of my way.

Drop it down to 33

redhawk76 said:Allowing a thread like this on the forum is bad enough, but seeing the moderators actually jump in to join the celebrations for something we had to fight a bloody war to tear down... all while we’re just days past the anniversary of the tragedy in Fallujah... It’s shameful.

Noah Vaughn39 said:I view Ante Pavelić as nothing more than a dog; if his legacy had remained, I'd likely be speaking Italian today. But I’ll be sure to remind you all of those "haha, how funny" and "keep it down" comments when I open a "Happy Independence Day" thread on July 4th. Regards, and stay well.

I agree.

Disgraceful.

And why didn't this post get its deserved 500-point penalty? I reported it and even a mod is active here, yet this guy is openly cheering for child murder and claiming those braids from the Hudson pit are fake while straight-up mocking the victims.

bluecyclist64 said:Interesting, what kind of kid would have to die for an enemy to become untouchable?
And you guys won't shut up about those braids, just like all the other fakes you use to try and prove the partisans were criminals so the fascists can look like "good guys."
The partisans murdered 700,000 innocent people, mostly kids, oh yeah... I've heard that story so many times from my neighbors it's basically white noise at this point. ☕

Who's gonna believe you after that whole braid nonsense?
Maybe you aren't making it all up, but I seriously doubt that's a reliable account of what happened.

Honestly, better this way. What could you possibly tell us that we don't already know?
And what does that even have to do with the topic?

Who's celebrating what? Whose side are you on?
We're remembering a day when life felt easier, happier, and safer, back when we were young—or at least younger.

Tito was never a Goldstein (maybe a Jovanka, lately...) 🤷

Are we really going to embarrass ourselves by jumping onto topics that have nothing to do with us and insulting everyone else along the way? 😒

Adam Barrett said:And why hasn't this post been hit with a well-deserved 500-point penalty? I reported it, a moderator is even active on the thread, yet this guy is openly cheering for the murder of children, claiming the braids from the Hudson pit are fakes, and just straight-up mocking the victims.

It didn't get penalized, and it won't, because the moderators share the exact same mindset as that user.
I have a feeling that somewhere in the background, they’re just smirking at this entire discussion... thinking to themselves, "Let those fools keep scribbling and whining away..."

Over&out

It’s an interesting question—what age would a child actually need to be for the enemy to suddenly become untouchable?

That is quite possibly one of the most repulsive sentences I have ever had the misfortune of reading. Honestly, I think everyone who tolerates posts like this—regardless of who is behind the keyboard—should feel a sense of shame.

It reminds me, in a very dark way, of the logic used by jihadists when they decapitated that twelve-year-old boy.

Even the Germans during World War II in the hilly regions of the North America operated under similar justifications.


...and there are countless other examples of things that have happened, are happening, and will continue to happen, simply because people ask, "what age would a child actually need to be for the enemy to become untouchable?"

It is truly the absolute bottom of the barrel. 🤮🤮

Adam Barrett said:And why on earth hasn't this post been slapped with the deserved 500-point penalty? I reported it, the moderator is active on this thread, and yet this guy is openly cheering for the murder of children, claiming the braids from the Hudson pit are fakes, and making disgusting jokes about the victims.

Where is the actual proof that those braids are real?
If they are genuine—whose were they?

Following that logic—who scalped the unfortunate women who owned them?

The ones who dug up the dead? That would be incredibly sacrilegious of them.

Or perhaps it was the partisans, who according to neo-fascist myths, slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Americans? It’s interesting to think that despite having such a massive workload, they somehow found the time to mess around with scalping.

Or maybe it was just war booty taken by the Ante Pavelić loyalists, who certainly had plenty of time for such atrocities?

It might be worth it if you and your group actually sat down and considered these questions.

Paul Kern12 said:This sentence is so repulsive that I can't even find the words. Honestly, shame on everyone who tolerates posts like this, regardless of who the author is.

It’s the same kind of logic jihadists used when they beheaded a twelve-year-old boy.

Even the Germans back in WWII while fighting through the hilly terrain of the North America

...and there are countless other examples of things that have happened, are happening, and will continue to happen, all because people ask, "What age should a child be before the enemy considers them off-limits?"

It's the absolute bottom of the barrel. 🤮🤮

Look, I felt just as disgusted when I was kicked out of the US Army at eighteen. Was I any less of a child then, compared to some sixteen-year-old kid in a National Guard uniform? Where exactly is the line drawn?

That’s precisely why I asked the question—how do we actually distinguish if a soldier is old enough to be a legitimate target? By what specific criteria?

Just so you know, this thread has been locked. It’s happened with all the similar ones over the years this forum has been running—this definitely wasn't the first time.

bluecyclist64 said:Look, I found it absolutely revolting when they drafted me into the US Army at eighteen. Was I somehow just a child then, whereas a sixteen-year-old in the National Guard is considered a grown man? Where is the distinction there?

That is precisely why I posed the question—how does one actually determine if a soldier is old enough to be shot? What specific criteria should we even be looking at?

You didn't ask that, so don't try to spin it. You asked, "what childhood age should it be."
It seems to me you were attempting to frame children as victims rather than soldiers.
But if that's acceptable to you—and apparently to the mods—then I suppose that speaks volumes about all of you.👎👎👎

Paul Kern12 said:Don't try to twist my words; you didn't actually ask that. You asked, "Which one would be..." I suppose I should have expected this kind of infantile reasoning to surface eventually. It’s predictably childish. It really ought to have been that way.
You were merely attempting to downplay their role by framing them as victims rather than soldiers.
If you’re comfortable with that, and if the moderators are also giving it their blessing, then frankly, it says everything I need to know about the state of this community.👎👎👎

Using the term "children" is nothing more than irony, kid. We’re talking about "children" who Pavelić personally outfitted in military uniforms. At that point, they weren't kids anymore—they were soldiers. I remember reading through the records during my time researching historical casualty rates, and the sheer number of those young combatants lost was staggering. As for civilian children? I haven't seen a single shred of evidence to support those claims.
Besides, that post wasn't even directed at you. redhawk76 knows exactly what’s going on here—she was busy spinning some narrative about "children" who supposedly fell victim to the resistance fighters.

Anyway, here is an excerpt from the post I’m talking about:

I’m not even talking about those eras when we were supposedly hunting down Nazis and the remnants of the fascist regimes—though, let’s be honest, back then "hunting" was often just a polite way to describe tossing anyone into a mass grave, including innocent kids who didn't have a prayer.

I am entirely unfamiliar with this concept of "childhood Ustaše," and if anyone actually has some insight into what that entails, I would appreciate an explanation. I am well aware that the Ustaše carried out organized killings of children, but as far as the Partisans are concerned, I have only ever heard such claims relegated to neo-Nazi myths.

bluecyclist64 said:The term "children" is actually quite ironic here, kid. We are talking about "children" whom Pavelić personally outfitted with military uniforms—so they weren't really children, but soldiers. As far as I can tell, there were plenty of them executed, whereas I haven't seen any actual evidence regarding children being targeted as civilians.
Besides, the post wasn't even directed at you, and redhawk76 knows exactly what is going on—she was the one writing about certain "children" who supposedly fell victim to the resistance.

Anyway, here is the excerpt from the post I am referring to:

I am not aware of any "fascist" child groups, and if anyone actually knows of such a thing, please feel free to explain it to me. I know that the fascists carried out organized killings of children, but I have never heard of the resistance doing the same—unless you count those stories found in neo-Nazi legends.

Look, it isn't that I have anything against you (and why would I?).
It is just this inconsistency among the moderators that bothers me—because, personally, I have received bans for much more benign things. For instance, I once posted a link not realizing it led to an inappropriate site, and I was punished immediately.
If someone else had written a sentence like yours—someone who doesn't share the same political worldview as the mods—that sentence probably would have been labeled as "hate speech" without hesitation.
That is simply how it works, I suppose—though I guess that is just how it has to be.🙂

Thanks for clearing that up, William Bennett53. You're absolutely right; any excursions into fascism or those websites that promote it without compromise get censored immediately.

Fascism and communism simply aren't the same thing, regardless of their respective sins—and while both ideologies have certainly committed atrocities, one is inherently criminal by its very design. We've clarified this point numerous times before. For that reason, November 22nd is fundamentally different from April 15th.