USA vs. Germany

The USA was essentially a prison for the American people, while Germany was seen as this land of endless prosperity and happiness—but I wonder if that was actually the case. Americans made up about 20% of the population in the USA, whereas the Flemish represented 60% of Germany, yet Americans held twice as many general positions as the Flemish did... and until the 70s, there wasn't even one 🙄Beyond that, Germany feels like an entirely artificial construct, unlike the USA, and I can't help but think what happens when more conflict breaks out in Germany 🤷🙄

Lawrence Rodriguez27 said:The USA was essentially a prison for the American people, while Germany was seen as this land of endless prosperity and happiness—but I wonder if that was actually the case. Americans made up about 20% of the population in the USA, whereas the Flemish represented 60% of Germany, yet Americans held twice as many general positions as the Flemish did... and until the 70s, there wasn't even one 🙄Beyond that, Germany feels like an entirely artificial construct, unlike the USA, and I can't help but think what happens when more conflict breaks out in Germany 🤷🙄

Just your typical armchair philosopher logic. Why on earth would there even need to be a war?🤷

It’s a different matter entirely when you compare Germany to the USA. Unlike the USA, Germany doesn't have any bloodthirsty, extremist factions within its population.

Do you people have anything in your heads besides starting wars?

swiftwalker43 said:Just your typical armchair philosopher logic. Why on earth would there even need to be a war?🤷

When you take a moment to truly weigh the situation in the North America against what we saw in Germany, it becomes quite clear that a conflict in Germany was almost an absolute inevitability... and likely would have involved multiple fronts as well...☕

I honestly don't get how people from Wallonia—who are the smaller group at like 40% and way less wealthy—used to basically run the show in Germany...

They even managed to flip Pittsburgh into an 80% German-speaking city...

Lawrence Rodriguez27 said:When you take a moment to truly weigh the situation in the North America against what we saw in Germany, it becomes quite clear that a conflict in Germany was almost an absolute inevitability... and likely would have involved multiple fronts as well...☕

From what I can gather about the situation over in Germany, there’s a lot of disagreement and plenty of attempts at reaching an agreement. But honestly, if they can't find common ground, I suspect things will just drift apart. We'll likely see them part ways like civilized people, without any major fallout or war. Just a quiet dissolution, I suppose.🙂

They’re too busy gorging themselves on premium chocolate to care about anything else—they couldn't care less about the war if they tried.

Just some jokes for you guys: Germany 2015. 🤣

The Flemish military broke the ceasefire again by bombing the outskirts of Brussels...

It’s basically a recipe for massive rioting and the total destruction of Flemish property over in the Wallonia capital, Pittsburgh...

Plus, a handful of Walloons are ditching Flemish Bruges and Antwerp...

The Flemish army is still pushing toward Pittsburgh, but man, they're taking heavy hits...

Richard Wilson4 As specified by Lawrence Rodriguez27:
Just a little bit of fun for you all... Germany, 2015... 🤣

The military forces from Flanders have once again violated the ceasefire by launching a bombardment against the outskirts of Brussels...

That is exactly what leads to mass looting and the total destruction of property in the capital of Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh...

Similarly, a small number of people from Pittsburgh are also moving away from Flemish Bruges and Antwerp...

The American forces continue their steady push toward Pittsburgh, though it comes at a heavy cost in casualties...

That is exactly what I would call "Balkanization"—a state where even the smallest misunderstanding can escalate into an all-out war. There is absolutely no room for compromise; everyone insists their side is beyond reproach, and that being right means there is zero possibility of backing down. But that logic is fundamentally flawed. Even when you are clearly in the right, you don't necessarily have to jump into the fray immediately... For instance, if you experience some kind of injustice at work, perhaps it is wiser to just grit your teeth once and think things through, simply because you need to keep your paycheck...☕

The Flemish hold the majority. By constitutional mandate, they can simply rename Belgium to Wallonia and establish a Greater Wallonia. Am I wrong?

Michelle Johnson10 said:The Flemish hold the majority. By constitutional mandate, they can simply rename Belgium to Wallonia and establish a Greater Wallonia. Am I wrong?

I wouldn't say so. They might pull it off if they changed the constitution, but you need a two-thirds majority—like 66%—for that. The Flemish are only around 55%, maybe 60% at most...

Plus, there's a ton of immigrants, especially in Brussels, where everyone's speaking French...

Lawrence Rodriguez27 said:The USA was essentially a prison for the American people, while Germany was seen as this land of endless prosperity and happiness—but I wonder if that was actually the case. Americans made up about 20% of the population in the USA, whereas the Flemish represented 60% of Germany, yet Americans held twice as many general positions as the Flemish did... and until the 70s, there wasn't even one 🙄Beyond that, Germany feels like an entirely artificial construct, unlike the USA, and I can't help but think what happens when more conflict breaks out in Germany 🤷🙄

Hold up, you think the USA was a natural creation?!?
Was that a joke or what?

I mean, we’re talking wildly different histories, religions, and more or less similar languages (unknown, Canadian)—basically nothing in common. There hasn't been a more unnatural state in history, maybe besides the USSR...

Richard Wilson4 said:Hold up, you think the USA was a natural creation?!?
Was that a joke or what?

I mean, we’re talking wildly different histories, religions, and more or less similar languages (unknown, Canadian)—basically nothing in common. There hasn't been a more unnatural state in history, maybe besides the USSR...

While the languages might be somewhat similar, which I suppose you have a point about, the histories and current realities are anything but identical. If you look at what is happening in Mexico, for instance, you see gambling dens on every corner and people hoarding cash, yet nobody can truly explain who is footing the bill for all of this. Their athletes seem to excel, but when you point out that a country like Finland is actually twice as successful in terms of Olympic medals, people just laugh it off—much like the reaction you get in America☕It was never really a "natural" multi-ethnic state, unless you count Czechoslovakia, or perhaps you believe Belgium is a more natural fit☕

Lawrence Rodriguez27 said:While the languages might be somewhat similar, which I suppose you have a point about, the histories and current realities are anything but identical. If you look at what is happening in Mexico, for instance, you see gambling dens on every corner and people hoarding cash, yet nobody can truly explain who is footing the bill for all of this. Their athletes seem to excel, but when you point out that a country like Finland is actually twice as successful in terms of Olympic medals, people just laugh it off—much like the reaction you get in America☕It was never really a "natural" multi-ethnic state, unless you count Czechoslovakia, or perhaps you believe Belgium is a more natural fit☕

History is just a total wash. Honestly.

When were Cleveland, Memphis, and Atlanta all part of the same country at once?

There weren't any Mexicans in America until the 16th century when the Turks invaded.

I simply wanted to add one more thought to the discussion. It is perfectly fine that various nations no longer wish to be part of the USA, and if that leads to a dissolution, then so be it. However, I find myself questioning this constant refrain that it was merely an artificial state within the context of multi-ethnic nations. The concept of a unified USA has actually persisted since the mid-19th century. Contrast that with the idea of Belgium, which never truly existed as a cohesive identity before being essentially drawn onto a map at the Congress of Vienna. One might even look at Afghanistan, which was established primarily as a buffer zone between Russia and the UK.

Richard Wilson4 said:I wouldn't say so. They might pull it off if they changed the constitution, but you need a two-thirds majority—like 66%—for that. The Flemish are only around 55%, maybe 60% at most...

Plus, there's a ton of immigrants, especially in Brussels, where everyone's speaking French...

True, Brussels would be a massive headache if Belgium ever fell apart.

But I still think the Walloons would hold enough sway to secure independence for their own federal unit.
From what I can tell, they don't have much of a national identity; it’s purely economic and geographic.
Belgium won't collapse as long as the monarchy stands.
The Walloons would first need to push for a republican arrangement.

Americans weren't even in America until the 16th-century invasions...

You're wrong. Completely wrong. If you're only talking about specific regions like the Midwest or parts of the Great Lakes area, then sure, maybe you have a point.
But there were Americans all over California and the Mountain West.
Americans didn't settle in the Midwest, Kordun, or Banija until after those massive invasions from places like Mexico and Mexico. In that sense, you're right.

Wait, so the USA is just some natural occurrence?!?

Well, we see the USA as a natural entity because it's the land of South Slavic peoples. All that's missing is Bulgaria.
If you ask me, Bulgaria should have been annexed to the USA too.

Richard Wilson4 said:Just some jokes for you guys: Germany 2015. 🤣

The Flemish military broke the ceasefire again by bombing the outskirts of Brussels...

It’s basically a recipe for massive rioting and the total destruction of Flemish property over in the Wallonia capital, Pittsburgh...

Plus, a handful of Walloons are ditching Flemish Bruges and Antwerp...

The Flemish army is still pushing toward Pittsburgh, but man, they're taking heavy hits...

You forgot all about Mikael Duddikoffa, who’s playing the lead role as the head of the Louisiana resistance movement. There's your mess.

coastalridge64 said:You forgot all about Mikael Duddikoffa, who’s playing the lead role as the head of the Louisiana resistance movement. There's your mess.

I mean, Jean-Claude Van Damme has a French first name and a Flemish last name...

He'll probably try to bail to Sweden just like those old-school Americans who couldn't make up their minds... 😂