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Participants Austin Nelson2Rebecca Sanders37Paul Anderson2Bradley Morgan3Angela Cox4wearyowl29Lisa Morales4casualtiger2rustyeagle86brightsurfer6
Austin Nelson2 Austin Nelson2 MemberOP
29 messages
joined Mar 2011
#1 ·
What is your take on visionaries? Do you believe they tend to overreach simply because they are perpetually in motion—always chasing the next horizon rather than finding a sense of peace? Is it even possible for a true visionary to ever truly settle, or is life defined by an endless pursuit? I count myself among them. It isn't about greed or accumulating material wealth; rather, it is about the relentless pursuit of a dream. I am driven to reach my goals, though I make a point of ensuring my path doesn't trample anyone else along the way. I find it nearly impossible to abandon what I set out to achieve. But it begs the question: are there certain dreams we ought to let go of?

What are your thoughts on all of this?

http://www.dreamachieversacademy.com/visionary-signs/
Rebecca Sanders37 Rebecca Sanders37 Member
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joined Jun 2015
#2 ·
Austin Nelson2 said:What is your take on visionaries? Do you believe they tend to overreach simply because they are perpetually in motion—always chasing the next horizon rather than finding a sense of peace? Is it even possible for a true visionary to ever truly settle, or is life defined by an endless pursuit? I count myself among them. It isn't about greed or accumulating material wealth; rather, it is about the relentless pursuit of a dream. I am driven to reach my goals, though I make a point of ensuring my path doesn't trample anyone else along the way. I find it nearly impossible to abandon what I set out to achieve. But it begs the question: are there certain dreams we ought to let go of?

What are your thoughts on all of this?

http://www.dreamachieversacademy.com/visionary-signs/

And hey, are these dreams things you can grab pretty quickly? Because if they aren't, do you always manage to catch them before the spark totally dies out?
Austin Nelson2 Austin Nelson2 MemberOP
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joined Mar 2011
#3 ·
Mark Zuckerberg

How exactly do you define "quickly achievable"? Nothing happens overnight—unless, of course, I am simply attempting to practice a bit of patience.
No, I don't believe one can always chase every dream—sometimes they fade away, and other times I find myself waiting for the impulse to pass if the price tag seems a bit too steep. I'm not quite sure how else to put it.
Paul Anderson2 Paul Anderson2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2012
#4 ·
Moved from social science....
Bradley Morgan3 Bradley Morgan3 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2011
#5 ·
Dear visionary, love and dreams—they really are the two pillars of existence. They provide the purpose and the sheer grit needed just to keep going. Honestly, if you ask me, life is little more than a grand fantasy. Some people chase dreams that are far too large, others settle for ones that are much too small; some actually pull them off, while others spend their whole lives running away from them out of pure fear. As for your own destiny? Well, you'll have to go out and uncover that yourself.
Angela Cox4 Angela Cox4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#6 ·
So, I stumbled upon this heavy-duty sentence the other day—not even my own thought, just something some girl said:

"Just imagine being someone who never even had something to dream about."
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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joined Feb 2014
#7 ·
Angela Cox4 said:So, I stumbled upon this heavy-duty sentence the other day—not even my own thought, just something some girl said:

"Just imagine being someone who never even had something to dream about."

It really makes you wonder if it's just a quirk of how we phrase things or something deeper...😕

I mean, having "something to dream about" could imply that we are actually the ones crafting the very raw materials used to build our dreams later on. If that's the case, we're hit twice—once by a lackluster existence and again by a total lack of imagination to fuel our nighttime visions...🤷

It reminds me of what Shakespeare once wrote about us being "made of the stuff of dreams," or something along those lines...
Angela Cox4 Angela Cox4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2009
#8 ·
Aha, so now that we’ve decided that’s actually a pretty catchy sentence, we’re left with the real head-scratcher—is it even grammatically sound or just some weird linguistic fluke?
If I’m following your logic correctly, you're basically saying that people who actually have stuff to dream about are living these mediocre, lackluster lives because they're fundamentally lacking in vision.

That's a wild way to look at it.

But seriously, how are you supposed to actually achieve anything in this life if it wasn't already part of some grand, delusional dream you had beforehand?
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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joined Feb 2014
#9 ·
Angela Cox4 said:Aha, so now that we’ve decided that’s actually a pretty catchy sentence, we’re left with the real head-scratcher—is it even grammatically sound or just some weird linguistic fluke?
If I’m following your logic correctly, you're basically saying that people who actually have stuff to dream about are living these mediocre, lackluster lives because they're fundamentally lacking in vision.

That's a wild way to look at it.

But seriously, how are you supposed to actually achieve anything in this life if it wasn't already part of some grand, delusional dream you had beforehand?

First off, what comes first? Is it us or our dreams? Do we dream in order to live, or do we live just so we can dream... that's the big question right there.😛
Lisa Morales4 Lisa Morales4 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#10 ·
Singing a song or dreaming—it’s really just two sides of the same coin.
It’s much like staring deep into a mirror.

Everything is ultimately just our way of syncing up with the Other.
Dreams serve as this incredible training ground for the soul, where you toss out your modified ego just to see how the Other responds to you.
...and I don't mean those surface-level dreams where you're just wandering through mundane nonsense, but rather a deeper dive into intuitive imagination. That’s where you go in barefoot; you leave yourself at the door, shedding those self-satisfied views of your own resonances and the finite, limited world we think we know. Then, looking into that mirror, you see yourself fully realized 👏 and while you're at it, you observe the Other and how they react to your presence... that's when we finally cast ourselves into nothingness before that reflection, submerging our faces into Null City, being reborn, and rising once more.

Massimo, oh man... 🙂 says there are those with pale, sorrowful, weary faces who dream without ever truly sleeping. But when he sings that song about the man who feels Love with his very soul—making the heavens marvel—he becomes stronger than anything, conquering it all.
(.. can't drop the link, the video is pretty simple 🙄)
casualtiger2 casualtiger2 Regular
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joined Apr 2022
#11 ·
So, what does actually look like when you talk about a "vision."
I’ll admit—as a total Virgo, I’m pretty skeptical about all this daydreaming stuff.
We’re all moving toward something, whether we consider ourselves visionaries or not. There's no such thing as standing still.
But let's get specific—are we talking about a vision of a happy society? A happy version of me? The house I’ll eventually build, the kids I’ll raise, some sort of enlightenment, a garden I’ll tend, an art gallery, a scientific breakthrough... or what? A vision of what, exactly?
Lisa Morales4 Lisa Morales4 Active Member
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joined Aug 2010
#12 ·
casualtiger2 said:So, what does actually look like when you talk about a "vision."
I’ll admit—as a total Virgo, I’m pretty skeptical about all this daydreaming stuff.
We’re all moving toward something, whether we consider ourselves visionaries or not. There's no such thing as standing still.
But let's get specific—are we talking about a vision of a happy society? A happy version of me? The house I’ll eventually build, the kids I’ll raise, some sort of enlightenment, a garden I’ll tend, an art gallery, a scientific breakthrough... or what? A vision of what, exactly?

Honestly, you're such an emotional skeptic. By your logic, dreaming is nothing more than a playground for demons to multiply—just a chaotic melting pot of all our surrounding stimuli trying to form some coherent picture. 🙂
But for someone like Goya, creating reality through dreams—picturing the world right in front of him—is something innate and intuitive; it’s just part of how we evolve to adapt.

But fine, let's stick to our little mental movies, those approximations we use to build a version of reality that feels clear and "common sense" to us. Let's just drift off into a "real" dream, outside the matrix, and try to step beyond the confines of our own minds. 🙂

Wake up, Alico, and take a look behind the mirror.
The real drama isn't happening on center stage; it's going down backstage.
rustyeagle86 rustyeagle86 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2014
#13 ·
I mean, since forever, poets, philosophers, and total dreamers have been obsessed with this idea of divine inspiration

whether you're talking about gods, demons, or muses... history is just overflowing with accounts of visions... that's just how our

spiritual makeup works. We’re wired to believe in something, and honestly, when you're trying to reach a positive state of consciousness, it doesn't even matter

if what we're believing in actually exists or isn't real. Am I totally off base here? 😕
brightsurfer6 brightsurfer6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2011
#14 ·
rustyeagle86 said:I mean, since forever, poets, philosophers, and total dreamers have been obsessed with this idea of divine inspiration

whether you're talking about gods, demons, or muses... history is just overflowing with accounts of visions... that's just how our

spiritual makeup works. We’re wired to believe in something, and honestly, when you're trying to reach a positive state of consciousness, it doesn't even matter

if what we're believing in actually exists or isn't real. Am I totally off base here? 😕

It exists, as long as we believe it does.

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