What exactly are immunosuppressants?

Hey everyone, I could really use some help here—can someone explain what immunosuppressants actually are? If anyone has any insight or can break it down for me, I’d truly appreciate it..
thanks so much in advance🙂

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Immunosuppressive Drugs

As the name implies, immunosuppressive drugs work by dampening the body's immune response. In practice, they utilize cytostatics to achieve this. There's quite a variety in the lineup; some are administered via oral tablets, such as Imuran (azathioprine) or methotrexate, while others are delivered through infusions, like Mitoxantron or Endoxan (cyclophosphamide).

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Thanks a million, I really appreciate it!

Jessica Long44 said:Hey everyone—I really need some help here... does anyone actually know what immunosuppressants are? Please, if someone could explain it to me...
thanks in advance🙂

Basically, they're substances that totally wreck your defenses—to the point where you could literally die just from a sneeze...😢

Douglas Fowler said:Basically, we're talking about stuff that can absolutely wreck you—to the point where even a sneeze could be fatal. 😢

I don't really get this whole "dying" part... 😕
I've been on an immunosuppressant—specifically Sandimmune—for over a year now, and honestly, I'm doing great. It’s actually the first thing on a pretty long list of options that finally worked for me.
Every medication comes with side effects, and everyone reacts differently—I mean, that's just how it goes. Looking at this, I don't see how it would actually kill someone. Aren't drugs supposed to, you know, actually help people get better? 🤷
And obviously, you need regular checkups!

Robin Robinson8 said:I don't get this whole dying thing??? 😕
I've been on an immunosuppressant—specifically Sandimmune—for over a year now, and I'm handling it great. It's actually the first drug on a long list that finally helped me.
Every medication has side effects, and everyone reacts differently—I honestly don't see how this could kill someone. Aren't drugs supposed to actually treat people? 🤷
Of course you need constant check-ups!

Regarding the mortality aspect—if you watch Dr. House, they touch on this a bit—like how one character left House because he killed someone after miscalculating a way to suppress their immunity. The point is, our immune system is what defends us against pathogens that are everywhere. If you dampen the immune system, or shut it down entirely, you're left defenseless. Even a minor cold can become lethal. It doesn't have to be that way, but sometimes you try to manage it with a bunch of meds.

Now, it depends on the specific issue, which I don't know... If we're talking about an organ transplant, then you have to take them, because rejection could be fatal. When you're already facing a life-threatening situation, you opt for the path that offers at least some certainty—though even that isn't guaranteed. Besides, transplants are surgical procedures. But immunosuppressants are used for many other things too.

As for the drugs themselves, they aren't always "cures"—they often just manage symptoms. Immunosuppressants basically mask the body's reaction to a foreign entity. That entity might be a transplanted organ, or it might just be a pathogen. If the body can't fight back (because with immunosuppressants, it can't offer even a shred of resistance), that pathogen just spreads and does its damage—which, again, depends on the pathogen, and some are deadly.

And if you truly believe the pharmaceutical industry isn't a business—meaning their primary goal isn't profit, but rather doing everything to make people better, all while working on a purely volunteer basis for the common good... I really don't know what to tell you. You're living in a fairy tale, which is a lovely thought, but it's not reality.

Big Pharma is a pretty nasty beast. Their goal is to turn a profit and lock in as many customers as possible through various means. They don't care about the individual once they've extracted enough money. Once the funds run out, they just let the exhausted remains fade away.

Immunosuppressants are basically drugs that tell your own immune system to just... chill out. You see them used all the time for stuff like autoimmune diseases, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, scleroderma, and that whole gang. They’re great at dialing down the symptoms of the actual disease, but man, they can be totally nasty for everything else. Like, you become a magnet for every little bug going around, your hair might thin out like crazy, and it even messes with your reproductive health—ovaries, testes, it's all on the line. For women, you've got uterine issues too... Honestly, we're talking about things that act like cytostatics or steroid hormones. I don't even know which side is worse 😢

..I’m with everything Douglas Fowler said here..compared to those drugs, the cytostatics used in chemo seem like harmless little vitamins....but they’re just "friendly" enough to wreck your immune system so badly you might as well have AIDS, leaving you wide open for bacteria, infections, and viruses to tear you apart...they physically destroy you and leave you a shell of yourself...and that goes for the immunosuppressants they use during bone marrow transplants too.

@Douglas Kim59
My dad was on Sandimmune for 18 years. Since he had a kidney transplant, he had to manage his immune system to make sure his body didn't reject the organ. It’s true that he was more susceptible to viruses, but nothing ever felt too extreme. You just have to be careful—if he caught a cold, we’d head straight to the doctor immediately. If a fever popped up, we dealt with it right away. The key is staying consistent with the timing of the doses and making sure everything is precisely managed by his physician. The manufacturer matters quite a bit, too; there's a noticeable difference between Sandimmune from India and the version from Switzerland. Eventually, after 18 years, his kidney gave out, so he had to stop taking Sandimmune, though he definitely would have kept going if he could... we don't really have a choice in these things. That medication was his lifeline, regardless of any side effects.

Laura Bailey said:My dad's kidneys finally gave out after 18 years—so he had to stop using Sandimmune, though he definitely would have kept going if he could... we just don't have a choice. That medication is a lifeline, regardless of the side effects it brings...

That’s exactly what I was getting at. Once an operation happens and the transplant is already done, a person really doesn't have a say—you just have to do what needs to be done.

But the real question is why the kidneys failed in the first place. For instance, my own kidneys were so damaged that I could barely flush any fluid out of my system—it was from pill toxicity, mostly painkillers, which I took for years. I was constantly bloated with water; my arms and legs—though otherwise thin, since I was only about 128 lbs at 5'10"—were swollen and heavy because of all that fluid.

And honestly, there are some helpful things out there that can help restore kidney function... I don't have any issues with my kidneys now, I'm no longer suffering from edema—that's what they call that condition—and generally, everything is fine.

It might be too late for you and your father, but I struggled with this for 11 years myself...

@ Douglas Fowler

His kidneys started acting up when he was only 28. He went straight onto dialysis and eventually had a transplant, and honestly, looking back, we’re pretty happy with how everything turned out. It’s been a struggle, sure, but the transplant happened when I was just three years old, and now I'm 25. Even though doctors wrote him off back then, he’s still right here with us. It’s actually quite rare for a transplanted kidney to hold up this well for so many years. These days, you just don't see it much... Dad is back on dialysis now, which is tough, but he's hanging in there... he refuses to give up...
Every illness is a battle, but with the right meds and making sure to actually enjoy life... you can still find those good days...
I'm really glad to hear you aren't dealing with those kinds of issues anymore—hopefully, it stays that way.

Laura Bailey said:Every illness is a struggle—but with the right meds and just enough care to make sure there are still some good days left...
I'm really glad to hear you aren't dealing with those issues anymore, and I truly hope it stays that way...

I know more now, which helps me figure out how to handle things. It's such a shame when an illness hits like this—it really does take everything from you, including your quality of life...

Alan, all I can really wish for you is a bit more optimism and that you find someone to fall in love with sooner rather than later.