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Patrick Hernandez27 Patrick Hernandez27 MemberOP
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#1 ·
My thread got wiped over on LES, so hopefully I’ll have better luck over here...

I’m just curious, from a psychological standpoint, what do you all think

About why people on LES—and online in general—feel this urge to post photos of their private parts?

What is the actual goal there?

Is it a lack of self-confidence, where they're basically hunting for external validation just to feel okay?

Or maybe it's a deeper loss of self-respect, driven by the influx of Western values and this whole "death culture" we see today...

I mean, I truly wonder... why does a young woman feel the need to put her breasts on the internet just to be judged by strangers?

What’s your take on it?
Andrew Sanchez572 Andrew Sanchez572 Active Member
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#2 ·
simply because it’s fun

While we are on the subject, from a purely psychological standpoint, I find myself wondering why such a thing would bother a young man... I mean, what is actually wrong with him? 🥳
urbancrane3 urbancrane3 Newcomer
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#3 ·
If you ask me, it’s just a blunt way of feeding the ego, nothing more.
driftingscout8 driftingscout8 Newcomer
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#4 ·
Patrick Hernandez27 said:My thread got wiped over on LES, so hopefully I’ll have better luck over here...

I’m just curious, from a psychological standpoint, what do you all think

About why people on LES—and online in general—feel this urge to post photos of their private parts?

What is the actual goal there?

Is it a lack of self-confidence, where they're basically hunting for external validation just to feel okay?

Or maybe it's a deeper loss of self-respect, driven by the influx of Western values and this whole "death culture" we see today...

I mean, I truly wonder... why does a young woman feel the need to put her breasts on the internet just to be judged by strangers?

What’s your take on it?

It comes down to a craving for attention, but more specifically, a craving for love.
slypuma17 slypuma17 Active Member
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#5 ·
Patrick Hernandez27 said:My thread got wiped over on LES, so hopefully I’ll have better luck over here...

I’m just curious, from a psychological standpoint, what do you all think

About why people on LES—and online in general—feel this urge to post photos of their private parts?

What is the actual goal there?

Is it a lack of self-confidence, where they're basically hunting for external validation just to feel okay?

Or maybe it's a deeper loss of self-respect, driven by the influx of Western values and this whole "death culture" we see today...

I mean, I truly wonder... why does a young woman feel the need to put her breasts on the internet just to be judged by strangers?

What’s your take on it?

What kind of "death culture" are we even talking about here? 😕
Physicality—breasts, butts, the whole nine yards—carries an inherent sexual connotation, and sex is how new life begins.
It isn't like children just appear out of thin air.

Beyond mere sexual function, there is the aesthetic element. The human body, particularly when it's young and fit, is beautiful. If someone possesses what they consider a beautiful physique, why shouldn't they show it off if they feel like it? Is there some reason to be ashamed of one's own body? To hide it away?
Is the body itself inherently immoral?
Not at all. Immorality exists only in the minds of those watching.

And you—don't act like you haven't looked. You certainly have. Otherwise, how would you even know they were there? In a way, you’re a participant in that entire interaction. Nobody would bother showing their body if there wasn't an audience interested in looking. 😉

And what exactly are these "Eastern values" that are supposedly so virtuous and positive? 😕
Gary James88 Gary James88 Active Member
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#6 ·
Young women have all sorts of motivations for putting their bodies online. Where does this idea come from—that there’s only one or two simple reasons behind it?

For instance, some people just want to show off, like a "look at me" moment, while others find a certain thrill in playing with social taboos. We live in such a paradoxical culture in the US; on one hand, there's this obsession with physical perfection, yet on the other, people claim that body image is shallow and irrelevant. If it were actually irrelevant, it wouldn't dominate our media coverage, and plastic surgeons wouldn't be among the most successful professionals in the country today.
Patrick Hernandez27 Patrick Hernandez27 MemberOP
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#7 ·
Look, under the guise of "why should I be ashamed of my body," Brian Banks is out there filming adult films. To me, that logic feels a bit thin...

I mean, if people are going to brag about something, why not boast about actual substance? Like hard work or genuine achievements. I always thought women were supposed to be empowered, yet suddenly there's this trend of stepping back into being mere sexual objects just to sell a persona.

It just doesn't sit right with me.

I'm not saying I have an issue with seeing it—not at all, I don't mind. I'm just asking... what do you all think the real motivation is behind it all?
Andrew Sanchez572 Andrew Sanchez572 Active Member
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#8 ·
Here is the technical term you’re looking for: vanity.

By the way, did you happen to miss the thread regarding torsos?
Aside from that, Brian Banks is currently locked in a standoff with adult film actors. I have to ask, why is it that you only seem to pin negative traits on women? In other words, why are you being so sexist?
Patrick Hernandez27 Patrick Hernandez27 MemberOP
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#9 ·
I feel exactly the same way, and honestly, I think it applies to men too.

It just seems like women have a bit more leverage in the market...
Gary James88 Gary James88 Active Member
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#10 ·
Maybe those same women brag about other things too, like their hard work or
career success, but here they just decided to show off their bodies.

Unlike women who aren't empowered, an empowered woman shows off her body if she wants to, whenever she feels like it, and however much she chooses. Empowerment is about having the right to choose. So, they can say, "we aren't just sexual objects, but if we want to be, we will—on our own terms and for as long as we please." To me, that sounds pretty empowered.

Besides, looking at LES, I see guys showing off their assets all the time. What's their deal?

Sure, it might come from vanity, but there are definitely worse things than being vain.
Andrew Sanchez572 Andrew Sanchez572 Active Member
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#11 ·
Patrick Hernandez27 said:I feel exactly the same way, and honestly, I think it applies to men too.

It just seems like women have a bit more leverage in the market...

And therein lies yet another reason why...🥳
slypuma17 slypuma17 Active Member
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#12 ·
Patrick Hernandez27 said:Look, under the guise of "why should I be ashamed of my body," Brian Banks is out there filming adult films. To me, that logic feels a bit thin...

I mean, if people are going to brag about something, why not boast about actual substance? Like hard work or genuine achievements. I always thought women were supposed to be empowered, yet suddenly there's this trend of stepping back into being mere sexual objects just to sell a persona.

It just doesn't sit right with me.

I'm not saying I have an issue with seeing it—not at all, I don't mind. I'm just asking... what do you all think the real motivation is behind it all?

So what if he’s filming them? It’s not like anyone is being forced to sit there and watch.
It’s a win-win situation, really. You have the audience getting their fix, she’s raking in the revenue, and everyone walks away satisfied. It's a perfect cycle of supply and demand. 🤷
Does she kill, torture, rape, rob, spread rumors, or incite hatred? No.
What exactly is the issue here?

Quincy:
If people are going to insist on bragging, why can't they pick something actually worth mentioning? You know, like genuine effort or the actual work put into achieving a goal. It would be a much more productive way to spend one's energy.
It’s probably unwise to go around broadcasting your successes on a forum like this. Since most people here operate under a veil of anonymity, you run the risk of being dismissed. People will naturally assume you're just spinning a yarn or flat-out lying to make yourself look better. 😁
The evidence is right there in front of them, staring them straight in the face.
That doesn't necessarily mean they—or any of them, for that matter—aren't finding success in other areas. How could you possibly know for sure?

Quincy:
I had always operated under the assumption that women had reached a sufficient level of empowerment and independence. Yet, suddenly, there seems to be this collective regression—a sudden pivot back toward performing as mere sexual objects, all in the pursuit of self-commodification.
Sold? Please. The girls over at LES post their photos for free, purely for the fun of it and the sheer enjoyment of sharing. As far as I can tell, not a single one of them has ever charged for a photo.
As Gary James88 pointed out, they should be able to act whenever they please, however they choose, and in whatever quantity they desire. To me, that’s the entire point—it’s a fundamental demonstration of their autonomy and their right to be the masters of their own bodies.
So, they call them "emancipated."

I’m struggling to follow your logic here. On one hand, you claim it doesn't bother you—you even go so far as to say you enjoy seeing them. But then, in the very next breath, you start lecturing me about the "culture of death" and how these people have been reduced to mere sexual objects, stripped of any actual self-respect. You can't really have it both ways.
If that’s truly your perspective on the whole matter, then I have to wonder: why bother staying for the show? 🤷
Patrick Hernandez27 Patrick Hernandez27 MemberOP
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#13 ·
slypuma17 said:So what if he’s filming them? It’s not like anyone is being forced to sit there and watch.
It’s a win-win situation, really. You have the audience getting their fix, she’s raking in the revenue, and everyone walks away satisfied. It's a perfect cycle of supply and demand. 🤷
Does she kill, torture, rape, rob, spread rumors, or incite hatred? No.
What exactly is the issue here?

Quincy:
If people are going to insist on bragging, why can't they pick something actually worth mentioning? You know, like genuine effort or the actual work put into achieving a goal. It would be a much more productive way to spend one's energy.
It’s probably unwise to go around broadcasting your successes on a forum like this. Since most people here operate under a veil of anonymity, you run the risk of being dismissed. People will naturally assume you're just spinning a yarn or flat-out lying to make yourself look better. 😁
The evidence is right there in front of them, staring them straight in the face.
That doesn't necessarily mean they—or any of them, for that matter—aren't finding success in other areas. How could you possibly know for sure?

Quincy:
I had always operated under the assumption that women had reached a sufficient level of empowerment and independence. Yet, suddenly, there seems to be this collective regression—a sudden pivot back toward performing as mere sexual objects, all in the pursuit of self-commodification.
Sold? Please. The girls over at LES post their photos for free, purely for the fun of it and the sheer enjoyment of sharing. As far as I can tell, not a single one of them has ever charged for a photo.
As Gary James88 pointed out, they should be able to act whenever they please, however they choose, and in whatever quantity they desire. To me, that’s the entire point—it’s a fundamental demonstration of their autonomy and their right to be the masters of their own bodies.
So, they call them "emancipated."

I’m struggling to follow your logic here. On one hand, you claim it doesn't bother you—you even go so far as to say you enjoy seeing them. But then, in the very next breath, you start lecturing me about the "culture of death" and how these people have been reduced to mere sexual objects, stripped of any actual self-respect. You can't really have it both ways.
If that’s truly your perspective on the whole matter, then I have to wonder: why bother staying for the show? 🤷

She isn't killing anyone or hurting anyone...

but just because someone does something doesn't make it "normal."

Quincy:
It isn't really smart to brag about your success on a forum. Most people here are anonymous, so others might just assume you're making it all up or lying. 😁
The checks are the proof for themselves.
And besides, how can we know if they aren't successful in other areas of life too?
That's a question you could ask C. Z. Jones, who turned down a $50 million offer from Playboy.

Quincy:
Sold? These girls on LES are posting photos for free, just for fun and satisfaction. As far as I know, none of them are charging for them.
Like Cocaine said, they do it when they want, how they want, and as much as they want. That shows they have the freedom to decide and control their own bodies.
Essentially, they're empowered.
I was thinking more broadly. I was simply wondering where that urge comes from—the desire to show your body to others.

Quincy:
I don't get it. You say it doesn't bother you and that you enjoy watching them, yet you talk about death culture, sexual objectification, and people having no self-respect...
If that's truly how you feel, why even participate in the spectacle? 🤷


It's like meeting a girl, she performs for you that very night, and you have a great time. That's one thing. Having a certain opinion of her afterward... that's something else entirely.
Andrew Sanchez572 Andrew Sanchez572 Active Member
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#14 ·
Come on, Patrick Hernandez27, don't talk nonsense; we both know you've never been one for showing off your physique to anyone...
Patrick Hernandez27 Patrick Hernandez27 MemberOP
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#15 ·
I put my face on it, not some random dude.
Andrew Sanchez572 Andrew Sanchez572 Active Member
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#16 ·
Aha, it isn’t actually a mess, it’s just that the dog had an accident...😁
Patrick Hernandez27 Patrick Hernandez27 MemberOP
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#17 ·
Look, if we aren't talking about actual garbage here and you're just describing someone stepping in dog poop, then you might as well swap out that profile picture on Facebook for a photo of your junk instead.
Andrew Sanchez572 Andrew Sanchez572 Active Member
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#18 ·
🤣
How on earth can you be so certain that I am not 🤣 😂
On a side note, I find that certain organs actually possess more aesthetic appeal than some people's faces 😲
What kind of sense of humor have you developed, truly 🙂
(My apologies, dear friends, I seem to be feeling a bit frayed today; I suppose I was just looking for a little mischief to occupy myself)
Patrick Johnson8 Patrick Johnson8 Member
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#19 ·
they've got nothing better to do
tired of looking at all those fake, surgically enhanced bodies
just hunting for compliments
maybe even trying to meet someone if they look good enough
so here's the question... why won't you just post your own photos online for people to see?
give me a few reasons
Patrick Hernandez27 Patrick Hernandez27 MemberOP
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#20 ·
I’m being completely serious here, while you seem to be treating this whole thing like some kind of joke.

I suppose what I’m trying to get at is... it’s just profoundly sad. We live in an era where people are willing to trade away absolutely anything they can get a price for. They’ll auction off their own privacy, their very sense of dignity... everything.

All just so someone, somewhere, might offer a hollow "wow, you're so great."

If that’s the only thing capable of brightening a person's day, then we really are in trouble.

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