Who destroyed the Hilton?

A few days before this downpour started, I finally pulled into Kansas City and caught some Kawasaki 😁

I took a stroll through downtown and ended up wandering over to this massive ruin right by the Colorado River—it’s got one little cafe on the ground floor.
I sat down and asked the waitress if the place had ever actually been occupied, and she told me no, but that it was completely leveled during the war 😲

The whole spot looks straight out of an apocalypse, despite being in such a gorgeous location.

So now I'm wondering—if it's true that the enemy troops never even set foot in there—who exactly destroyed that huge Hilton?

Paramilitary grenades... if you want the official story...

The only issue here is that those guys never even made it across the Colorado River, and those grenades certainly didn't blow out the furniture, the rugs, the chandeliers, the kitchenware, or the pool tables...

And then there's the whole "concern" from the local city officials—you know, the ones who managed to destroy practically everything they touched in town...

Now, the place is being run by someone who actually knows what he’s doing, someone with the resources, and most importantly, someone who doesn't give a damn about the political hacks in office... he proved that when he restored that other iconic Kansas City landmark—the Grain Warehouse—and those little bureaucrats in city hall couldn't handle seeing him succeed...

So now they're trying to play games with him, attempting to join his circle and take credit for his hard work, but the good man sent them packing pretty quickly...

Adam Collins4 said:Paramilitary grenades... if you want the official story...

The only issue here is that those guys never even made it across the Colorado River, and those grenades certainly didn't blow out the furniture, the rugs, the chandeliers, the kitchenware, or the pool tables...

And then there's the whole "concern" from the local city officials—you know, the ones who managed to destroy practically everything they touched in town...

Now, the place is being run by someone who actually knows what he’s doing, someone with the resources, and most importantly, someone who doesn't give a damn about the political hacks in office... he proved that when he restored that other iconic Kansas City landmark—the Grain Warehouse—and those little bureaucrats in city hall couldn't handle seeing him succeed...

So now they're trying to play games with him, attempting to join his circle and take credit for his hard work, but the good man sent them packing pretty quickly...

How far away was the kid from the Hilton, anyway?

neonwalker95 said:A few days before this downpour started, I finally pulled into Kansas City and caught some Kawasaki 😁

I took a stroll through downtown and ended up wandering over to this massive ruin right by the Colorado River—it’s got one little cafe on the ground floor.
I sat down and asked the waitress if the place had ever actually been occupied, and she told me no, but that it was completely leveled during the war 😲

The whole spot looks straight out of an apocalypse, despite being in such a gorgeous location.

So now I'm wondering—if it's true that the enemy troops never even set foot in there—who exactly destroyed that huge Hilton?

Man, there are so many spots like that all over America that weren't even in the combat zones... who's to blame? Maybe some corrupt local officials? 🤷

California has tons of those abandoned, beautiful military sites right along the coast... honestly, I don't even want to start talking about it, it just makes me sick.

Adam Collins4 said:Paramilitary grenades... if you want the official story...

The only issue here is that those guys never even made it across the Colorado River, and those grenades certainly didn't blow out the furniture, the rugs, the chandeliers, the kitchenware, or the pool tables...

And then there's the whole "concern" from the local city officials—you know, the ones who managed to destroy practically everything they touched in town...

Now, the place is being run by someone who actually knows what he’s doing, someone with the resources, and most importantly, someone who doesn't give a damn about the political hacks in office... he proved that when he restored that other iconic Kansas City landmark—the Grain Warehouse—and those little bureaucrats in city hall couldn't handle seeing him succeed...

So now they're trying to play games with him, attempting to join his circle and take credit for his hard work, but the good man sent them packing pretty quickly...

I personally didn't see any artillery damage there. It looked more like a mob had stormed through and manually wrecked everything—and that was a massive building. Even the waitress mentioned that no paramilitary units ever set foot in there. I just don't get how this happened under our own government and stayed this ruined right by the water all this time.

Sophia Rodriguez11 said:Man, there are so many spots like that all over America that weren't even in the combat zones... who's to blame? Maybe some corrupt local officials? 🤷

California has tons of those abandoned, beautiful military sites right along the coast... honestly, I don't even want to start talking about it, it just makes me sick.

Look, this isn't a barracks—it was a commercial hotel. If you want to talk about abandoned military bases, there's a whole bunch of them sitting right in the middle of Kansas City.

Frank Hall3 said:How far away was the kid from the Hilton, anyway?

By the way, that hotel is practically right next to the bridge where Elvis Presley took out those "tourists"...

If my memory serves me—and it usually does—it was about 100 meters as the crow flies, maybe a tiny bit more... back when they were rolling tanks into the Great Plains and whatnot...

Here’s a little piece of trivia most people miss: those bunkers were roughly 300 meters from the center of Kansas City—assuming you count the old site as the center. People love to argue about it, but that’s the ballpark figure.

Basically, you could just park yourself at the hotel and watch the gang send shells flying right over your head toward the city... it used to be especially "scenic" once night fell...

neonwalker95 said:I personally didn't see any artillery damage there. It looked more like a mob had stormed through and manually wrecked everything—and that was a massive building. Even the waitress mentioned that no paramilitary units ever set foot in there. I just don't get how this happened under our own government and stayed this ruined right by the water all this time.

Look, there was definitely significant damage, but since it’s been decades, things have been so heavily devastated that it’s hard to even spot now—especially because most of those hotels were all glass, so once they shattered, everything just looked broken.

You can see the damage on the side facing the water, but those guys never actually crossed the Colorado River... if they had, the whole city would have fallen.

The Headquarters and the military barracks were only about 50m from the Hilton—right near the Greyhound Station in Kansas City. Basically, the defense would have collapsed instantly because they could have linked up in no time.

Word is there was an offer for the Hilton. It wasn't much—just peanuts—but they would have renovated the place and gotten it back on its feet. The city refused to budge on the terms, so now we’re stuck with what we’ve got.

Adam Collins4 said:Look, there was definitely significant damage, but since it’s been decades, things have been so heavily devastated that it’s hard to even spot now—especially because most of those hotels were all glass, so once they shattered, everything just looked broken.

You can see the damage on the side facing the water, but those guys never actually crossed the Colorado River... if they had, the whole city would have fallen.

The Headquarters and the military barracks were only about 50m from the Hilton—right near the Greyhound Station in Kansas City. Basically, the defense would have collapsed instantly because they could have linked up in no time.

So, who exactly went through there and trashed everything? Honestly—it's like trees are growing right out of empty rooms. 🤷

neonwalker95 said:Look, this isn't a barracks—it was a commercial hotel. If you want to talk about abandoned military bases, there's a whole bunch of them sitting right in the middle of Kansas City.

I never said it was just military bases. I'm talking about the massive amount of abandoned, gutted hotels where they stripped everything worth taking, even though they weren't anywhere near a war zone.

Sophia Rodriguez11 said:I never said it was just military bases. I'm talking about the massive amount of abandoned, gutted hotels where they stripped everything worth taking, even though they weren't anywhere near a war zone.

Honestly, this just infuriates me. Just bare walls and glass... twenty years later and it was never even occupied—we're talking a ten-story building right on the banks of the Mississippi.

Nicole Morris said:Word is there was an offer for the Hilton. It wasn't much—just peanuts—but they would have renovated the place and gotten it back on its feet. The city refused to budge on the terms, so now we’re stuck with what we’ve got.

The Marriott has been sold...

We’re in the appeal period right now—I assume it’s just a formality—and after that, the demolition starts, though nobody knows the exact timeline yet...

The kicker, though, is that according to the local zoning laws, you can't build anything else there except for a hotel...😉

Adam Collins4 said:The Marriott has been sold...

We’re in the appeal period right now—I assume it’s just a formality—and after that, the demolition starts, though nobody knows the exact timeline yet...

The kicker, though, is that according to the local zoning laws, you can't build anything else there except for a hotel...😉

Where did all the stuff from the Hilton end up? It wasn't even an issue before—I walked up those stairs and it looks like a total mob tore the place apart. When did this even happen?

neonwalker95 said:Where did all the stuff from the Hilton end up? It wasn't even an issue before—I walked up those stairs and it looks like a total mob tore the place apart. When did this even happen?

You’re talking about Manhattan... specifically The White House. Used to be an elite spot. Now? Just bare walls. They haven't even cleared the junk out yet. Sad. Some Russian billionaire bought it along with a few thousand acres of prime coastal real estate, and now it's just going to sit there. Classic money laundering.

http://www.nytimes.com/article/housing-crisis-suburbs-news
People are actually having their homes broken into while they sleep, yet here you are, exhausting yourself arguing over who swiped the electrical outlets from some abandoned Hilton Hotels property that’s been sitting empty for two decades🤦

Since you seem to have completely glossed over the reality of the military skirmishes and shelling back then🤦, maybe we should shift the focus toward the veterans instead, because I heard a story about one guy who was literally smashing through a stockroom while holding his defensive position on the front lines.

What kind of topics are we even discussing here?

Sophia Rodriguez11 said:You’re talking about Manhattan... specifically The White House. Used to be an elite spot. Now? Just bare walls. They haven't even cleared the junk out yet. Sad. Some Russian billionaire bought it along with a few thousand acres of prime coastal real estate, and now it's just going to sit there. Classic money laundering.

It’s straight-up physical robbery—destroying our own national assets. It’s unbelievable how they can gut the infrastructure of our most profitable industry without anyone facing any consequences. Has anyone actually been prosecuted for this yet?

It seems like what happened in Kansas City is the exact same story—only closer to a combat zone—but right next to that ruined hotel sits this tiny, perfectly preserved little boutique from the old era, which makes the whole mess even harder to wrap my head around...

mistyjackal14 said:http://www.nytimes.com/article/housing-crisis-suburbs-news
People are actually having their homes broken into while they sleep, yet here you are, exhausting yourself arguing over who swiped the electrical outlets from some abandoned Hilton Hotels property that’s been sitting empty for two decades🤦

Since you seem to have completely glossed over the reality of the military skirmishes and shelling back then🤦, maybe we should shift the focus toward the veterans instead, because I heard a story about one guy who was literally smashing through a stockroom while holding his defensive position on the front lines.

What kind of topics are we even discussing here?

I'm not making excuses for anyone—the waitress told me those guys weren't even there, and honestly, I don't see any shell holes. I have no idea if our troops were even stationed in that hotel. 🤷

neonwalker95 said:It’s straight-up physical robbery—destroying our own national assets. It’s unbelievable how they can gut the infrastructure of our most profitable industry without anyone facing any consequences. Has anyone actually been prosecuted for this yet?

It seems like what happened in Kansas City is the exact same story—only closer to a combat zone—but right next to that ruined hotel sits this tiny, perfectly preserved little boutique from the old era, which makes the whole mess even harder to wrap my head around...

Well, look, some sort of masonry work is being gathered up over there, so that part makes sense, but you keep mentioning how it's "closer" to the base—it isn't just close, it's practically ON the base.

And honestly, the Hilton didn't fall apart just because someone decided to unplug the appliances; it's because the building was actually shelled, and then people spent a few years scavenging parts from the other side of the river, so we're talking about five years of systematic destruction followed by absolutely zero efforts to rebuild it.

You can find plenty of examples of abandoned, desolate property all across America, so I really don't understand why you're focusing so much on a hotel that sits right on the front lines, essentially tucked behind a bunker. 🤦

P.S.
They didn't just walk right in, they were positioned across the way, like I already told you.

mistyjackal14 said:http://www.nytimes.com/article/housing-crisis-suburbs-news
People are actually having their homes broken into while they sleep, yet here you are, exhausting yourself arguing over who swiped the electrical outlets from some abandoned Hilton Hotels property that’s been sitting empty for two decades🤦

Since you seem to have completely glossed over the reality of the military skirmishes and shelling back then🤦, maybe we should shift the focus toward the veterans instead, because I heard a story about one guy who was literally smashing through a stockroom while holding his defensive position on the front lines.

What kind of topics are we even discussing here?

If you heard about the cabinet, you might want to ask him if the carpets are still there too... or maybe a table or two...

I know a few guys who basically have old hotel carpets stashed up in their attics...

Or chandeliers, and stuff like that...

But honestly, it doesn't matter. There have always been small-time scavengers around.