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Why was I banned?

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Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 RegularOP
379 messages
joined May 2024
#1 ·
So, on the World/Ukraine politics thread, I provided an argued response to a post by driftingtinker, and in doing so, I included a single sentence criticizing his choice for moderator based on both his specific stances and the way he has treated other forum members—behavior which, in my view, is fundamentally incompatible with such a "duty." Fine, I can concede that this second part regarding the moderator selection might technically violate the rules of that specific sub-forum, but does that truly warrant a permanent ban?

The ban was issued after I attempted to appeal a warning within the relevant sub-forum, where I received this response:

I find myself wondering what the moderation team's reaction would be if someone were to write that the United States or Canada were seeking damages from Mexico due to the atrocities committed by Slobodan Milošević, which resulted in over a hundred thousand deaths. Are Srebrenica and Ovchar merely the result of "mischief," or are they the direct consequence of criminal policy?

I am interested to know if I have indeed been permanently banned, as I am seeing this message upon logging in:

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never


... and if I have, why on earth is this worthy of such a draconian penalty?

PS: driftingtinker, you wrote this to me in the Democratic Party section:
"The post is constructive and extensive, so I feel bad deleting it, but in the future, please avoid attacking your opponent's entire persona."

In that case, you clearly could have signaled to your fellow moderators not to delete the post, rather than acting in such a hypocritical manner by leaving the task to others instead of handling it yourself; furthermore, I fail to grasp what it means to "avoid attacking the entire persona of an opponent." Perhaps to you, this feels like a personal attack because you have spent your entire tenure ignoring all opposition, and thus you struggle to understand how a proper debate functions, but in a real discussion, one typically attacks the stance and opinion of an "opponent" through reasoned argument. I am posting this here because I lack the ability to reply to you directly in the appeals sub-forum.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
372 messages
joined Jan 2019
#2 ·
Anthony Hill5 said:PS: >, you messaged me over on the Democratic Party boards, so you could've easily let the other mods know not to delete the post. Instead, you went this hypocritical route, letting everyone else clean up your mess... and I honestly have no clue what you mean by me needing to "avoid confronting an opponent personally" in the future.

The post I was talking about on the Democratic Party boards was from that thread on Syria:


Look, the points were solid and well-argued—honestly, I hate that it had to be deleted—but you just crossed the line with how you handled the confrontation with that user, HugoAmigo.

Thanks for listening.
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
352 messages
joined Mar 2009
#3 ·
I’m handing you a seven-day ban. After that, your next mark is a permanent PDF on the politics board.
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 RegularOP
379 messages
joined May 2024
#4 ·
driftingtinker said:The post I was referencing in the Democratic Party section was from the thread regarding Syria:

It was a good, well-reasoned post and I am sorry it had to be deleted, but you went too far in your retaliation against an opponent—specifically, the user HugoAmigo.

Thank you for your attention.

What exactly is so controversial about that post and the response from HugoAmigo? Furthermore, why was I not provided with a notification or any explanation as to why the post was removed, similar to how my post regarding the Ukraine PDF was handled? You have erased two of my posts without offering a single word of justification.

HugoAmigo does not spare me in his posts either, which can be easily verified if one simply scrolls through our discussion; yet, his posts remain unsanctioned, nor do I wish for them to be sanctioned or deleted, and I believe he holds the same view regarding my responses. If he resorts to labels like "troll" or "low-level troll," etc., and I respond to him in kind, I see no reason why I should be penalized while he remains untouched. I am certain he did not report my post, just as I do not report his, so I fail to see the logic or purpose behind me being sanctioned, having my content deleted, and being threatened with partial bans.

Amigo and I have discussed matters in this fashion for nearly a year, and thus far, neither he nor I have faced any consequences, until you decided to settle scores with me simply because we do not share the same opinion. This discrepancy leads me to believe that your views are inconsistent, and your history of "forum policing" is fundamentally at odds with the duties of a moderator, as you are clearly biased.

A separate post I wrote beneath Amigo's response was also deleted by you, and once again, no explanation was sent, even though the post violates no rules and contains no insults directed at anyone.

Charles Fox10 said:I am issuing you a 7-day ban, after which the next step will be a partial ban on the Politics PDF.

It seems no one wants to even consider commenting that characterizing ethnic cleansing and genocide as a "disgraceful mess" is justified...

But why the partial ban? Is it because, in responding to driftingtinker's post, I questioned his very appointment as a moderator since he refers to ethnic cleansing and genocide as a "disgraceful mess"?

Will you all please show some seriousness and accept criticism? As I stated above, in my debate with colleague HugoAmigo, I employ the same vocabulary he uses, primarily when I am reacting to his "insults"; therefore, I see no reason to be threatened with a partial ban, nor do I believe this warrants a 7-day ban. However, fine—at least we have clarified the duration of the ban, regardless of how unjust and selective it may be.

Best regards,
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 RegularOP
379 messages
joined May 2024
#5 ·
Charles Fox10 said:I am going to issue you a seven-day ban, and after that, your next infraction will result in a permanent suspension from the Politics subforum.

To whom it may concern,

Is it possible to have this ban lifted? It has been ten days already, yet I find myself still restricted!

Best regards,

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