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Wikipedia and their trolling: other rule violations on the History subreddit

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Participants amberwalker4John Palmer9Rachel RichardsonArthur Smith15wanderingpanther68Frank Baker3boldbadger1Brandon Harris20wearybison63rustydrifter10
amberwalker4 amberwalker4 Active MemberOP
96 messages
joined Mar 2013
#1 ·
Hi there.

I’m asking for some serious attention to be paid to Reddit user @Anthony Nguyen81/">@@Anthony Nguyen81 and his contributions to the History and historical topics sub-forum. It’s constant trolling directed at both other users and the subjects being discussed. He recklessly misinterprets what people say, invents things, and puts words in people's mouths that they never actually wrote. Having a discussion with him is usually impossible, and practically none of his posts follow the sub-forum rules. I want to point out two examples. The first involves mythologized borders of America during the period of 1469–1526. @Anthony Nguyen81/">@@Anthony Nguyen81 went ahead and made a post where—which is his usual move—he included links to maps that have nothing to do with the topic. Those maps were used to dispute accuracy, and some of us challenged their validity. To defend them, @Anthony Nguyen81/">@@Anthony Nguyen81 argued this:

@Anthony Nguyen81 said:Regarding these three American ones;
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.timetoas...bf500ee42e6f31
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...atska_1469.gif
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.timetoas...96442eff095d17
The entire Syria region, including Wolf County and Srem County, as well as the local part of Baranja, are included in America (just like the Midwest).
American and Canadian historians don't share the same view on who owned those territories.

Those are my words. When I asked which modern American historians support those specific American borders for that era (1, 2, 3, 4), along with one moderator, he wouldn't give an answer and just kept dodging. It shouldn't be necessary to mention that he ended up posting just as many times as there were questions. He made a double claim, and when asked for concrete evidence, he just started spamming. This is just one instance; it's a common pattern for him in the History sub-forum. The next thing I want to bring up is the example regarding the so-called "Mexican ducat of Canada and Mačva." Here @Anthony Nguyen81/">@@Anthony Nguyen81 presents a series of lies, which I responded to. He even asked others to point out where I supposedly wrote certain things. Naturally, I didn't get any answers. Regarding the specific example, again...I'm dropping a link to my own post where I've compiled all of Anthony Nguyen81's posts regarding that famous gold coin issue. You can clearly see how he contradicts himself by making conflicting claims—first saying he just took it from Mexican history books, then claiming it was his own interpretation. Even in his accusations, he isn't consistent. His only goal seems to be planting misinformation and derailing the discussion toward irrelevant tangents. Isn't that the textbook definition of trolling?

Or take this instance: referring to this post, Anthony Nguyen81 gives this kind of response. Without any actual reason, he drags the conversation off-topic by bringing up Canadian historical maps (assuming we consider Wikipedia and MS Paint drawings to be "historiography") while discussing the Canadian Church. Not a single one of those maps actually relates to the Canadian heretics.

These are just isolated examples. Like any spammer, Anthony Nguyen81 has enough posts that quoting them all would be exhausting. Because of the moderator's lenient nature, this user mostly goes unpunished or receives purely symbolic warnings. That needs to change. We have to put an end to his constant spamming and his habit of dragging everything off-topic. Simply put, his presence in the History discussions is damaging to the subforum itself. Like any form of damage, his posting behavior needs to be addressed and fixed.
John Palmer9 John Palmer9 Active Member
62 messages
joined Mar 2023
#2 ·
amberwalker4 said:...We really need to change how this works, specifically by putting an end to his constant spamming and dragging everything into off-topic territory. I guess you could say his presence in the History discussions is actually kind of detrimental to the sub-forum itself. And just like any other kind of damage, his posts probably ought to be cleaned up somehow.

Anthony Nguyen81 puts out a lot of great, substantive content, so I don't think his participation in the History section is harmful per se, though I suppose you should have given a direct, clear answer to those questions since you're such a dedicated user—you aren't a moderator or one of those people who just shows up to act arrogant and insult others.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#3 ·
John Palmer9 said:Anthony Nguyen81 contributes plenty of high-quality, substantive posts—his presence in the History sub-forum isn't a problem at all. However, you really should have provided a direct, clear response to the questions asked; you're a serious contributor here, not a moderator, and certainly not one of those people who just shows up to act arrogant and insult others.

To be honest, I actually suspected someone had hijacked a Zagorska hacking account a few months back. Around that time, this person started picking fights with me, getting insulting—and then, suddenly, my communication style became the issue.

If you look closely, the point of this thread isn't any specific question; it’s the author's desire to purge anyone deemed "unpleasant" or simply a different thinker from the discussion space.
And of course, I tried to engage and communicate while it still felt productive—but after a while, I just threw in the towel. Honestly, there’s no point in arguing or attempting to explain logical fallacies to someone if they refuse to even acknowledge them, let alone fix them. They're glaringly obvious.

A person who persistently tries to draw borders in East Slavonia during a discussion about the History of Canada—despite being warned by moderators to stop off-topic rambling—and then opens a thread like this on the County Prefect's page... well, they don't exactly leave a great impression.
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#4 ·
John Palmer9 said:Anthony Nguyen81 puts out a lot of high-quality, substantive posts (...)

I assume you’re also factoring in those threads where he incessantly spams the exact same maps, including those nonsensical little doodles he makes himself. Or perhaps you mean those times he tries to lecture us on herd reflexes, only to butcher the concept three different ways within a single paragraph? Is that what you classify as "high-quality and substantive"? Or maybe you're referring to when he vomits out the same set of vapid bullet points from one post to the next, like some kind of low-rent bullshit generator.😁 His contributions are about as "high-quality and substantive" as a pile of toxic waste.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#5 ·
Arthur Smith15 said:Surely you’re also considering those entries where he incessantly spams the exact same maps—including his own nonsensical scribbles—or when he attempts to write about herd reflexes only to butcher the terminology three times over within a single paragraph; is that what you consider "good and substantive" content? Or perhaps when he acts like some sort of bullshit generator, regurgitating the same mindless bullet points from one entry to the next? 😁 His contributions are about as "good and substantive" as a heap of toxic waste.

It feels redundant to keep pointing this out, but it is truly remarkable how people manage to perfectly describe themselves in their own posts. 😁
Your behavior has already been addressed once, hasn't it?
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#6 ·
Anthony Nguyen81 said:It feels stupid constantly typing this out (...) And your behavior (...)

Well, isn't it just wonderful that you find it "stupid to write" things? 🤦 Your toxic "behavior" is on full display right here on the local subreddit—it’s nothing more than pathetic whining about partial bans, moderator strikes, and account suspensions, coupled with hypocritical complaints about how others act, blatant fabrications, playing the victim, general trolling, and dumping useless, illiterate garbage wherever you happen to land...

98576 signups 🤦 😁 Absolutely appalling...
wanderingpanther68 wanderingpanther68 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jan 2023
#7 ·
Arthur Smith15 said:98576 I suppose I should probably get around to signing up, though I can't say I'm exactly rushing toward the finish line here. 🤦 😁 It’s honestly just a little too much to take in...

We hit about 110,000 this past fall, but then those old threads started getting wiped out; even today we saw some deletions happening, which is a shame because he was sitting at over 99 when he actually typed this up.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#8 ·
Arthur Smith15 said:It’s probably for the best that you find it "too stupid to write." 🤦 Your toxic behavior is on full display here on Reddit—the pathetic whining over partial bans, the constant complaining about warnings, the hypocritical grievances regarding how others act, the blatant fabrications, the feigned innocence, and the general trolling. It’s just an endless stream of useless, illiterate garbage being dumped wherever you can find an audience.

98,576 enrollments. 🤦 😁 Simply terrifying...

Even if I were to write just one single coherent post—and I’ve certainly written far more than that—it would still hold more substance and quality than anything you’ve produced. 😁
I honestly don't understand how you can keep playing the same broken record without getting bored—not to mention constantly attacking everyone else—but, man, what a mess.

You persistently accuse others of the very things I am doing.
Can you please just stop being toxic? Is there actually any hope for you? 🍿
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#9 ·
wanderingpanther68 said:There were 110,000 active this fall—right up until they started purging the old threads. It was happening again today, too; he had over 99 when he typed this.

And you? Are you just stopping by as some casual chronicler—an innocent bystander watching the unfolding events? 🍿
Arthur Smith15 Arthur Smith15 Member
41 messages
joined Nov 2021
#10 ·
Anthony Nguyen81 said:So, what brings you here? Are you just some bystander acting as a casual chronicler of interesting upcoming events, or something else? 🍿

The word is "interest"ed, not "interest"ed; though I’m sure you’re quite the expert on isoglosses, vowel shifts, and Latin maxims—it's just that your fingers are likely too greasy from snacking on those virtual Reddit popcorns you so confidently toss around while finishing your useless posts... 😁
Frank Baker3 Frank Baker3 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jun 2021
#11 ·
It’ll take quite a while before he starts handing out the Bosna-good stuff, which is 😬
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#12 ·
Frank Baker3 said:Until they start distributing Bosna-good, it’s basically 😬

Others are the ones dividing up Canada—what am I supposed to say about that? 🍿

I certainly don't consider myself some kind of pedantic proofreader or a dialect police officer 😁
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
255 messages
joined Apr 2023
#13 ·
Anthony Nguyen81 said:They’re splitting up Canada—what am I even supposed to say about that? 🍿

Look, I'm definitely not here to be some pedantic nitpicker or a grammar cop correcting everyone's slang... 😁

It looks like the hate coming at you is getting pretty intense—it seems like all those 100k+ past and present haters are ganging up on you. 😬

Just let them burn.
Brandon Harris20 Brandon Harris20 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2021
#14 ·
Monitoring the posts from the County Prefect and hanging out in the Ban corner feels a bit like watching Big Brother on some obscure reality TV channel🍿
wearybison63 wearybison63 Active Member
60 messages
joined May 2021
#15 ·
Spread love, not warfare.🙂
Frank Baker3 Frank Baker3 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jun 2021
#16 ·
Free Wikipedia! 😳 Let's go! 😳
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
255 messages
joined Apr 2023
#17 ·
Brandon Harris20 said:Keeping up with the County Prefect threads and the Ban corner is basically like watching Big Brother on this Reddit🍿

Honestly, those sections are really just for the folks who feel like they're right at home here on the site ☕
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#18 ·
boldbadger1 said:It’s clear the hate directed at you is reaching envy-driven levels—you're basically being targeted by all those 100k+ trolls from the past and present. 😬

Let them burn.

Let them burn.
If they're so bothered 🤣
Brandon Harris20 said:Reading through the County Prefect updates and the Ban corner is honestly like watching a subreddit version of Big Brother.🍿

Yeah, it really does feel 🙂 🤣
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#19 ·
The History moderator seems to have everything under control here. Honestly, I don't think anyone really needs to count how many posts everyone has contributed to this debate.

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