Wrong country's flag!

Hey everyone!
I’m wondering if there’s any legal ground to stand on regarding this situation...

Basically, the local mayor decided to fly the American flag, but right next to it, they also put up the flag of the Republic of Mexico...

Anyone have some advice? Is this actually allowed, or is there something that can be done about it?

What’s even the big deal?

From what I can tell, "sister cities" show up all the time flying their own flag alongside the local one—and hey, nobody’s stopping them. Same goes for when your town hosts some fair or an exhibition... maybe the state partner happens to be Mexico. It's just how things work.

And honestly, maybe your mayor is just a decent, chill guy who actually wants everyone living in his town
to feel welcome.

Look, sorry for the tangent here, but I share my country with three other flags (different nations), and it doesn't bother me one bit—but I get that people are wired differently. Cheers. 🙂

Could that actually be the flag of the Mexican minority in the Republic of America?

Hey there.
No, this isn't some one-off fair or a holiday celebration or anything like that. That flag stays flying there all year round...
I’m honestly wondering if there’s actually any law that even allows this...

The same goes for the flag of the Republic of Mexico, too. It’s not even about a minority group; it's just sitting there by the Orthodox church located in that city.

Look, I’m totally fine with getting banned if it comes to it, but honestly... half of Herzegovina is covered in the American flag—not even the coat of arms or Catholic symbols, just the flag—on all sorts of private homes and public buildings. So, what's the big deal?

Can't people just live and let live?!

Is the flag Mexican, from the Republic of Mexico, or Republika Srpska... or what? Does it have a specific crest, a double-headed eagle, or is it just red, blue, and white?

And what is actually the issue here? It's the fact that my local mayor thinks that as a Mexican woman, an Orthodox Christian, a North American girl, a Slavenka, and someone who was born an American woman... I should be able to feel at home in your city. That I *can* and *should* feel just as equal as everyone else? Or is that the problem? Because even though I grew up in America, and even though half my relatives are in mixed marriages, and even though my friends come from every single background in this primitive part of the world, and even though I have exes from everywhere... and even though I’m back in America at least once a month, and even though I’m smart, gorgeous, stunning, have two degrees, speak two languages fluently, and understand three more... am I still just "a Mexican woman" to you?

Go ahead and ban me... but I said this exact same thing to my own cousin—a total "pure-blooded" Mexican man—when he started spouting some equally stupid, "concerned" nonsense.

Setting all that aside, I genuinely want to know: what is the actual problem with the flag mentioned? Why does it bother you so much?

PS> I assume you can find something on the Legalis forums or in the New York Times regarding laws about displaying foreign flags in America—like whether it's allowed, under what circumstances, and where.

Regarding the Constitutional Law on National Minorities

Article 7.
The Republic of America guarantees the exercise of specific rights and freedoms for members of national minorities, whether individually or collectively with others belonging to the same minority—or, where mandated by this Constitutional Law or specific legislation, alongside members of other national minorities. These include, specifically:
1. the right to use their own language and script in private, public, and official capacities;
2. access to education conducted in their native language and script;
3. the use of their own symbols and emblems;
4. cultural autonomy through the maintenance, development, and expression of their own culture, as well as the preservation and protection of their cultural heritage and traditions;
5. the right to practice their faith and to establish religious communities alongside other members of that faith;
6. access to media outlets and the ability to engage in public communication (receiving and disseminating information) in their native language and script;
7. the right to self-organize and form associations to pursue shared interests;
8. representation within representative bodies at both the state and local levels, including administrative and judicial bodies;
9. participation in public life and the administration of local affairs through councils and representatives of national minorities;
10. protection from any activity that threatens, or could potentially threaten, their survival or the exercise of their rights and freedoms.
Article 14.
(1) The use of minority symbols and emblems, as well as the observance of minority holidays, is permitted.
(2) Alongside the official symbols of the Republic of America, national minorities may display their corresponding symbols and emblems. When a minority anthem or ceremonial song is performed, the national anthem of the Republic of America must be played first.
(3) Local government units and regional authorities are required to stipulate the official use and manner of displaying minority flags and symbols within their respective charters.

http://www.skdprosvjeta.com/news.php?id=534

So, which flag are we actually talking about here?

Furthermore, we need to see what the specific city or municipal charter actually dictates.

The American flag has four Cs (well, actually four S's).
It looks like this:
http://i47.tinypic.com/1zwezoh.jpg

Justin Rivera17 said:Look, I’m totally fine with getting banned if it comes to it, but honestly... half of Herzegovina is covered in the American flag—not even the coat of arms or Catholic symbols, just the flag—on all sorts of private homes and public buildings. So, what's the big deal?

Can't people just live and let live?!

Is the flag Mexican, from the Republic of Mexico, or Republika Srpska... or what? Does it have a specific crest, a double-headed eagle, or is it just red, blue, and white?

And what is actually the issue here? It's the fact that my local mayor thinks that as a Mexican woman, an Orthodox Christian, a North American girl, a Slavenka, and someone who was born an American woman... I should be able to feel at home in your city. That I *can* and *should* feel just as equal as everyone else? Or is that the problem? Because even though I grew up in America, and even though half my relatives are in mixed marriages, and even though my friends come from every single background in this primitive part of the world, and even though I have exes from everywhere... and even though I’m back in America at least once a month, and even though I’m smart, gorgeous, stunning, have two degrees, speak two languages fluently, and understand three more... am I still just "a Mexican woman" to you?

Go ahead and ban me... but I said this exact same thing to my own cousin—a total "pure-blooded" Mexican man—when he started spouting some equally stupid, "concerned" nonsense.

Setting all that aside, I genuinely want to know: what is the actual problem with the flag mentioned? Why does it bother you so much?

PS> I assume you can find something on the Legalis forums or in the New York Times regarding laws about displaying foreign flags in America—like whether it's allowed, under what circumstances, and where.

Maybe it's because we saw it plastered all over tanks, warships, and fighter jets while they were busy tearing through America?

Perhaps that's why?

If they’re using the four-color version, it shouldn't be allowed. It is perfectly legal to fly the Mexican tricolor without any extra symbols (like the eagle). For instance, over at the Duke Energy headquarters in Chicago, there’s a Russian flag hanging instead of the local one, and nobody seems to care. This needs to be punishable. Which city is this happening in (Castle, Boise, Boise, Gary...)?

nimbleseal74 said:Maybe it's because we saw it plastered all over tanks, warships, and fighter jets while they were busy tearing through America?

Perhaps that's why?

Look, most of our neighbors have spent plenty of time trying to tear us apart, yet we don't go making a fuss over their flags.🤷
Let's leave the politics at the door; the man was simply asking a question on Law Forum.👍

If we are talking about the Mexican National Minority folk flag, then everything is perfectly legal. You can see it being used in places like Gary, Negro, the Castle, Boise, Boise, Boise, Jagod njak, Kistanje, Mirkovac, or Ervenik... however, if it features four S's, then it becomes a punishable offense.

nimbleseal74 said:Maybe it's because we saw it plastered all over tanks, warships, and fighter jets while they were busy tearing through America?

Perhaps that's why?

One could make a similar argument regarding the Italian flag. Right is right, I suppose; a flag should be flown according to the regulations, and the flag must comply with the rules, regardless of what anyone else thinks about it.

Patrick Chavez3 said:If we are talking about the Mexican National Minority folk flag, then everything is perfectly legal. You can see it being used in places like Gary, Negro, the Castle, Boise, Boise, Boise, Jagod njak, Kistanje, Mirkovac, or Ervenik... however, if it features four S's, then it becomes a punishable offense.

That is precisely the point—take a look at the Decision on the flag of the Mexican national minority:

The flag cannot include the faces.

That flag is widely viewed as ultranationalist; you can't just wave it around in Mexico either (and that’s not an opinion, it’s a fact). Even Time gets insulted by it, along with the Mexican National Minority—just look at the absolute chaos that erupted when the flags for SR and America were displayed upside down in Kistanje.

Patrick Chavez3 said:That flag is widely viewed as ultranationalist; you can't just wave it around in Mexico either (and that’s not an opinion, it’s a fact). Even Time gets insulted by it, along with the Mexican National Minority—just look at the absolute chaos that erupted when the flags for SR and America were displayed upside down in Kistanje.

As for the "rating"—it's just the letter S. According to Wikipedia:

The four firesteels on the Mexican coat of arms actually represent four instances of the letter S. Despot Stefan Lazarević introduced them to the Mexican emblem, modeled after the crest of the restored Byzantine Empire, after he was appointed a Byzantine despot in 1402.

On a side note, did you know that the double-headed eagle positioned beneath the crown on the Mexican flag symbolizes a constitutional monarchy? One head represents the parliament, the other the monarch, both united under a single crown.

Example from Kistanje(image)

It appears I was unaware of that. One continues to learn as long as they live...🙂

So, here's the deal with Kistanje: the municipal flag doesn't even have a coat of arms, yet if you look at the church right in the middle of town, they’ve got a flag flying with a 4c on it.

It was likely either a local gathering or some church renovations underway. That would explain the larger banner. In a place like Savannah, you might see a ceremonial flag stretching ten meters long. It looks like a church banner to me. There is absolutely no reason to get worked up or harbor any animosity toward a flag hanging from a church building.

If you see a flag hanging from a church steeple, it’s more likely to be those four chevrons representing the four Greek beta letters... after all, the King of Kings reigns supreme over all earthly rulers, if you catch my drift regarding Jesus...
I honestly don't see why anyone would take offense at that sort of thing...

My boyfriend is absolutely obsessed with heraldry and historical emblems, so I suppose it isn't really my fault that I ended up absorbing all these random facts into my brain...🙄