Anyone still running Windows 7?

Usually, when you install Windows 7, it handles most of the drivers automatically, though maybe not sound—it really just depends on whatever motherboard or laptop you're running. 🙂

Joshua Garcia3 said:When you’re performing a fresh installation of Windows 7, the operating system typically handles most of the heavy lifting by automatically installing a wide array of drivers right out of the box. However, it isn't always a seamless experience; depending on the specific motherboard you're working with or the particular model of laptop you have in front of you, you might find that things like the audio drivers aren't included in that initial package. It really all comes down to the hardware manufacturer's compatibility with the OS. 🙂

That’s a fair point, but I can't help but wonder about those who don't actually go through with the installation process—that's the part I'm really curious about. Is there perhaps a specific utility or a standalone program that handles this, or is it possible to manage everything manually without any extra software? If the procedure is relatively straightforward and won't leave a total novice like me spinning in circles, I’d certainly be willing to give it a shot; however, if it turns out to be an absolute nightmare of a task, then well... I might just throw in the towel and call it a day!

If you actually know what hardware is sitting inside your rig, just head straight to the manufacturer's website to grab the drivers. If they aren't listed there, I guess you're stuck winging it, or maybe you could just ask for help here on the forum. 🙂

wanderingheron52 said:Look, I’m no IT expert, but here’s what I know: 😁
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Every gadget I download from that site just saves to my computer as an "unknown file" that I can't actually open. However, when I download stuff from that same site onto my desktop, I get a standard .exe file that works perfectly fine with a double-click to start the installation.
Both my laptop and my desktop are running Windows 7 Ultimate.

You're being tripped up because the widgets themselves are disabled. Go into the Control Panel, hit Programs, and then select "Windows features on and OFF"... obviously, you'll need admin privileges for that. 🙂
The widget feature is turned off right there. Just check the box to enable it, and suddenly the system will recognize the files, allowing you to install them without any issues. 🙂

Yeah, but you can see he mentioned his widgets were actually working 😁

@Lawrence Doyle7/">@@Lawrence Doyle7: eShitness isn't exactly top-tier stuff, is it? 🙂 As far as drivers go, you’ll probably run into at least one headache, but that’s just how it goes 😬 I had a nightmare with the WLAN because Dell didn't even list the driver for the Broadcom WLAN card on their support pages, even though they were shipping laptops with parts that were supposed to be compatible. 😁

Everything installs just fine on my machine. Honestly, if you’re out here trying to manually disable services and toggle options immediately after a Windows installation, you better know exactly what you're doing... otherwise, why bother? 👍

driftingnomad68 said:Sure, but notice he mentioned they were working on the widgets.😁

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I skipped over that part... I think I got too caught up in the eMachines issue.😢

Then there's the possibility that the extension link is just broken. Personally, I'd double-check the widget status in the settings—maybe try toggling them off and then back on after a restart of the Unknown PC.

driftingnomad68 said:@Lawrence Doyle7/">@@Lawrence Doyle7: Well, calling it "shitty" might be a bit of an exaggeration 🙂 though when it comes to drivers, you're almost certainly going to run into some sort of headache, so I suppose you aren't entirely wrong. 😬 It was a real nightmare dealing with the wireless connection because Dell didn't actually list the specific drivers for the Broadcom WLAN card on their support pages, even though they were churning out laptops using whatever internal components happened to be available at the time. 😁

Look, I wasn't suggesting the company itself is any good—it doesn't have to be, just like the price point isn't exactly a steal—but that's beside the point here.

As far as that Broadcom WLAN goes, the driver is actually sitting right there on the eMachines website under their driver download section, alongside about ten other utilities that didn't come pre-loaded with Windows 7. My real concern, however, is the actual installation process once the OS is up and running. Specifically, if I attempt to install these myself and things go sideways, am I going to cause any lasting damage or create some deep-seated system instability? Or can I simply walk my laptop into a local repair shop, ask them to perform a clean Windows 7 install along with all the necessary drivers, and act as if I never even attempted it?

How do I get my PC to go into standby mode just like it did back in the Windows XP days? It keeps shutting down on me all the time, especially when I'm hanging out at home, and then it just locks up after a while. I'm really just looking for a way to set it to sleep mode whenever I step away from the desk.

Taylor Morales31 said:He handles all my installations, and I never bother disabling services or tweaking options after installing Windows; if everything is running smoothly, you just assume there's a logical reason for it—unless, of course, you’re an absolute expert who knows exactly what they’re doing... 👍

I truly wish things worked that seamlessly on my end, but I have my doubts. It seems quite contradictory because sites like eMachines still list drivers specifically labeled as not being included in Windows 7; it leaves me scratching my head as to how Windows 7 would ever find them or install them autonomously—though, I suppose there might be a way. To reiterate, my main curiosity lies in the actual procedure for installing drivers when Windows 7 fails to download them automatically. If anyone could shed some light on that, I’d be most grateful. I am actually about to dive into a chapter from a Microsoft book regarding this very subject, hoping it might provide some clarity. Provided I don't risk breaking anything, I intend to attempt the installation of Windows 7 and the necessary drivers myself.

Lawrence Doyle7 said:I wish it worked that way for me too, but I doubt it—especially since sites like eMachines list drivers that Windows 7 supposedly doesn't include. I'm not really sure how Windows 7 would even find or install them on its own, though maybe it can. Again, I'm just wondering how you actually install drivers if Windows 7 doesn't download them automatically. If anyone knows, let me know. I'm about to go dive into a Microsoft-esque book on the subject to see if that helps. If I won't break anything, I might just try running the Windows 7 install and the drivers myself.

Don't worry, you won't break anything.
Here's the deal with installing drivers.
1. You just run the driver setup file if there is one and let it do its thing. Basically, just click Next, next, Finish. You might have to restart afterward.

2. If there isn't a setup file and you just have files like .inf, you go to Control Panel - System - Device Manager - (pick the device with the question mark that needs the driver) - and once that window pops up, you just point it to where the drivers are located and let it grab and install them.
That's a pretty simplified version, but honestly, it's probably best to just start the Windows installation and when you hit a snag with the drivers, ask a specific question here so we can help you out. 🙂

Keith Bennett38 said:Oh, please, don't you worry for even a single second about causing any damage—I promise you, there is absolutely no risk involved here! You can rest easy knowing that nothing you do will break anything or cause any harm to the system.
To ensure everything runs smoothly, you’ll want to follow this specific procedure when installing your drivers. Think of it like following a precise recipe to ensure your hardware and software sing in perfect harmony!
If you can locate the specific driver setup file, simply launch that installer and allow the software to perform its necessary operations. It’s quite a straightforward process—essentially just clicking "Next" a few times until you hit "Finish." Once the installation concludes, there is a distinct possibility that your computer will prompt you to perform a quick restart to finalize everything.

If you find yourself without a formal setup executable and are instead staring at a collection of loose files—specifically those .inf files—don't let that discourage you! You can still navigate this quite smoothly. Simply head over to the Control Panel, navigate through System to reach the Device Manager, and locate the specific device currently flagged with that frustrating question mark. Once you click on it to initiate the update, a window will pop up asking for the driver location. Just point the system toward the folder where you’ve stored those files, and let Windows do its magic by scanning the directory and pulling in exactly what it needs to complete the installation. It's much like giving a hungry traveler a map to a buffet; once you show them the way, they'll find everything they need!
While I must admit that your explanation is a touch overly simplistic for the complexity of the situation at hand, my best advice would be to proceed with the Windows installation first. Once you reach that inevitable hurdle where the driver issues begin to surface, please return to this thread and pose a very specific, detailed question regarding the exact problem you're facing. If you provide us with those particular details, we will be more than happy to provide you with a comprehensive answer! 🙂

I was just deep in some technical documentation regarding drivers, and I stumbled upon a rather insightful breakdown of how to handle them. It essentially suggests that if your computer starts demanding a specific driver, it means Windows simply doesn't have it tucked away in its library. When you hit that roadblock, there are really only three distinct paths you can take to resolve the situation.

First off, you’ll want to insert the disc containing the necessary drivers. If Windows fails to detect it automatically, an error message will pop up to let you know things aren't moving quite as smoothly as planned. In that case, you'll have to step in and locate the specific file manually to get everything back on track.

I am truly sorry to hear that you are facing such an incredibly frustrating situation! It feels as though one door closes only to have another one slam shut right in your face, doesn't it? I can practically feel the exasperation radiating from your message, and believe me, I am standing right there in the trenches with you. Please, don't lose heart just yet—we are going to navigate through this technical labyrinth together, step by agonizing step, until we find our way back to solid ground!😛There is absolutely a way to manually input the file path or navigate directly to the driver's location—an approach that proves incredibly useful whenever you have downloaded a specific driver from the internet rather than installing it through an automated update service!

Thirdly, I must emphasize that we should consider this third point with the utmost gravity!😢When we dive into the complex world of hardware peripherals—specifically those temperamental beasts we call printers—we find ourselves navigating a labyrinth of connectivity and driver configurations that would make even the most seasoned IT professional break a sweat! It is truly an intricate dance between software instructions and physical components.

To put it this way, I have gone ahead and downloaded a total of eleven different drivers from the website—we’re talking about everything from Realtek and Atheros to Broadcom, the ALPS/Synaptics touchpads, and even that ATI VGA driver. Each one of these downloads is essentially its own little labyrinth; you open a folder and find a collection of .exe files and .dll subfolders, and then you dive into those subfolders only to find yet more layers of files tucked away inside. It is quite a chaotic mess! In a perfect world, if I were to ask Windows 7 to install something like the Realtek Card Reader, the operating system would simply navigate through that entire digital thicket, locate the specific file it requires, and handle the heavy lifting itself. That would be the ideal, seamless experience. However, as it stands now, if I am forced to manually hunt for one specific driver amidst this overwhelming forest of files, I run into a serious dilemma. Even if I managed to stumble upon what I was looking for, there is a very high probability that I would pick the wrong one, leading to nothing but frustration and errors.

Alternatively, I could attempt to guide him through the directory structure of the Realtek folder—which, mind you, contains one primary file and six distinct sub-files—so he can point the installer toward the specific one he needs. If he doesn't find his target immediately, we could proceed step-by-step through the others until we hit the jackpot. It would truly be an elegant solution, provided we ensure he avoids accidentally installing that outdated Windows XP driver!

Take a look at this Realtek driver package, for instance. You’ve got this main file that unpacks into four distinct sub-folders—specifically Configuration, HDMI, MSHDQFE, and then options for Windows Vista and Windows Vista 64-bit, along with a WDM folder. On top of that, there are eleven different icons scattered about, including two .exe files, two .iss files, and a whole assortment of .ini, .cab, and .ibt files. It gets even more complex once you dig deeper, as some of those four primary folders actually contain their own nested sub-files. My best guess is that one should probably leave the files intended for Windows Vista or Windows XP strictly alone to avoid any headaches, but interestingly enough, there isn't a single mention of Windows 7 anywhere in the documentation.

It truly is a profound disappointment that I wasn't able to secure the original factory drivers; I can't help but feel that the entire system would operate with much greater stability and grace if I were using the official software rather than these various versions I've downloaded from the internet. To make matters even more complicated, I purchased an eMachines E640, yet the driver package I was handed actually belonged to an Acer Aspire 5741! It’s quite a messy situation, much like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I plan to head back to the shop tomorrow to request the original driver DVD, assuming they even have such a thing in stock.

In any case, I am quite certain there is absolutely no risk of causing any lasting damage here, even if I happen to make a misstep along the way. To me, that is the most vital point of all: everything can simply be wiped clean, the hard drive can be reformatted, and we can start the entire installation process from scratch if necessary. It’s like having a clean slate available at a moment's notice! Furthermore, my understanding is that Windows won't even show as registered until I actually connect to the internet and complete the activation myself, which is perfect since my ultimate intention is to install a completely legal version anyway.

I would truly love to master this process myself if it's at all feasible; I honestly feel like I am standing right on the threshold of understanding it! To add to the challenge, I have a desktop computer running Windows XP sitting there that would be an absolutely perfect candidate for a fresh reinstallation.

I am currently grappling with this persistent issue regarding performing a hard reset on my machine. I have been led to believe that a true physical restart occurs when one holds down the power button for upwards of five seconds—and I am fervently hoping that this technical understanding is indeed correct! If that isn't the case, and if there truly is no such thing as a hardware-level reset, then I find myself quite at a loss. While a simple matter of shutting the system down completely before powering it back up might serve as a functional substitute for a restart, I harbor significant doubts about whether that will actually suffice. In my estimation, a genuine, physical hard reset is absolutely essential here, and it isn't just a one-time necessity, but something that will likely be required repeatedly.

Joe Pesci, you really know your stuff when it comes to these technical tips.

Laptops don't really have a restart button. On almost all laptops and newer desktops, you just force a shutdown by holding down the power button for about 5 or 6 seconds.
Regarding drivers, Windows 7 is pretty much a polished OS that comes with most drivers built-in. For anything it's missing, it usually grabs them easily through Windows update or by letting you point it to a specific folder to pick the right one. (Windows 7 is smart enough to find the right stuff; if it can't find a match or if they're only for Windows XP, it'll just tell you nothing compatible was found at that location.)
It might give you a warning about a driver not being digitally signed, but I'd say just ignore that and let it install. If it still doesn't work after that, you could always try again using a different version or a different folder. You aren't really going to break anything this way.
It’s probably best to have an Ethernet cable plugged in during the process so it can grab whatever drivers it needs from the web right away. Then you can just manually add whatever it couldn't find on its own (if there's even anything left to do). Since you're working with a Dell machine, there's a decent chance something might stay uninstalled. 😢
For those drivers you downloaded, if there's a Setup.exe file in there, that's just the executable you double-click to start the installation.
So, if you have a Setup.exe for your sound card, for example, you just double-click that setup to get the audio drivers installed.
Installing Windows 7 itself isn't too hard; there are tons of tutorials online with screenshots that walk you through the whole thing step-by-step.
If things get messy, just shut it down, reboot, and start over. 🙂
You can always find someone who knows their way around a PC to do it for you. But if you ask me, you should just give it a shot—it's not like it's rocket science. 🙂

Honestly, you’re acting like installing Windows 7 is some kind of doctoral thesis. Look, I don't have anything against you asking questions, but... (I mean, when you go to the restroom, do you grab a single roll or do you carry the whole twelve-pack?), just start the installation. It shouldn't be a problem. If you hit a snag, just ask. 🙂👍

Joshua Garcia3 said:Man, you're making installing Windows 7 sound like a PhD thesis. I don't mind you asking, but... it's kind of like when you go to the bathroom—do you grab one square or take the whole roll? Just start the install; you'll be fine. If you get stuck, just ask. 🙂👍

I always keep the whole pack by the toilet, just in case. 🙂
The guy's never done this before, so he's a little nervous... can't really blame him. 😁

Keith Bennett38 said:It is a common misconception, but you won't actually find a dedicated restart button on a laptop. Whether you are working with a modern laptop or one of those brand-new desktop towers, the process remains essentially the same: if you need to force a shutdown, you simply hold down the power button for about five or six seconds. It’s a bit like an emergency brake for your hardware—it forces everything to come to a grinding halt when the software isn't cooperating.
When it comes to the whole driver installation process, I truly believe that Windows 7 stands as a remarkably refined and polished operating system. It possesses an inherent intelligence, carrying a vast library of drivers right out of the box. For those rare instances where a specific driver isn't immediately available, the system handles the situation with such grace; it can effortlessly pull what it needs through Windows Update, or you can simply guide it by pointing it toward a specific folder and letting it select the most compatible version itself. It’s quite seamless, really! Windows 7 is designed to be smart enough to hunt down the correct drivers on its own, and if it finds itself searching for something that simply doesn't exist—or worse, if it encounters outdated drivers meant for Windows XP—it will clearly notify you that no suitable matches could be found at that location.
The system might throw a little flag at you, warning that the driver isn't digitally signed, but you can simply bypass that notification and proceed with the installation. It’s much like when you ignore a minor warning light on your dashboard; as long as you know what you're doing, you just keep driving. If, heaven forbid, the driver fails to function even after a successful install, you haven't truly hit a dead end. You can simply circle back and attempt the process again by pointing the installer toward a different file version or perhaps selecting an alternative directory. In the grand scheme of things, there is absolutely no risk involved in this approach; you aren't going to break anything by trying a different path!
I cannot stress this enough: you really ought to have an active internet connection plugged in right from the very start of the installation process! It’s much more efficient to let the system hunt down and grab all those essential drivers directly from the web while it's setting itself up. That way, once the heavy lifting is done, you'll only need to step in and manually install the occasional outlier—if there is even one! Given that we are dealing with an eMachines machine here, there is a very real possibility that a few specific components might be left hanging without their proper software, so having that digital lifeline ready is absolutely paramount. 😢
In those driver packages you've pulled from the web, you should notice a file labeled Setup.exe; think of this as the primary ignition switch for the entire process. Once you give that executable a quick double-click, it kicks everything into gear and initiates the driver installation sequence immediately!
Think of it this way: if you find yourself holding the Setup.exe file for your sound card, you can't just stare at it! You absolutely must initiate that setup process—I’m talking a proper double-click to get things moving—so that the system can actually roll out those essential drivers and get your audio up and running smoothly.
Installing Windows 7 itself isn't actually the difficult part of the equation; you'll find that the internet is absolutely teeming with an endless supply of comprehensive tutorials, complete with detailed screenshots, that walk you through the entire process step by step!
Whenever you find yourself staring down a technical glitch or a system that simply refuses to cooperate, there is one timeless, golden rule of troubleshooting that remains my absolute North Star: if things aren't functioning exactly as they ought to, you simply shut the whole thing down, power it back up, and give it a fresh start from scratch! 🙂
Of course, you always have the option to defer to a seasoned expert who truly knows their way around these systems, but if I may offer a bit of friendly encouragement: go ahead and give it a shot yourself! There is absolutely no need to treat these procedures like some kind of sacred, untouchable scripture; after all, a little hands-on experimentation is often the best teacher. 🙂

Honestly, seeing all of this unfold together is becoming quite an encouraging development!

So, if the system isn't prompting you to restart automatically but is clearly stuck in that limbo where it's begging for one, my suggestion would be to take matters into your own hands! You can simply perform a hard shutdown—just hold down that power button for about five seconds until everything goes dark—and then boot the laptop back up from scratch. It’s much like manually resetting a circuit breaker when the lights flicker; sometimes you just have to cut the power to clear the slate and get things moving again.

During the installation process, it would be absolutely wonderful if we could maintain a wireless connection to the internet—provided the system permits such a thing—so that the operating system might proactively hunt down any necessary drivers online. It would truly be an ideal scenario if the OS could simply scout the web for those missing pieces itself!

When we dive into the complexities of these installation packages, it’s important to realize that you might encounter several different setup.exe files scattered throughout various directories and subfolders; however, in most practical scenarios, you're really only looking at two or three primary candidates. I just took the liberty of clicking on one of the Realtek files, and sure enough, it triggered the Installation Wizard, prompting me to proceed with the process. My sincere hope here is that if I were to accidentally present the system with an incorrect setup.exe, the software would be intelligent enough to reject it entirely—it certainly wouldn't be a desirable outcome if the system blindly accepted a faulty file!

I have thoroughly immersed myself in various online tutorials regarding the installation of Windows 7, and I feel quite prepared to take the plunge. I’ve even gone as far as configuring my BIOS settings to ensure the system boots directly from the DVD-ROM, much like setting the stage for a grand performance before the curtain rises. As for the intricacies of formatting and partitioning the drive, I have been studying an excellent technical manual that covers those procedures in great detail. To be perfectly honest, I am itching to dive headfirst into the actual installation process; the moment I have a functional operating system at my fingertips, I’ll be ready to go. Even when it comes to hunting down drivers, I feel I am nearly there. I fully intend to attempt this very soon, especially since I have already dedicated two entire days to intensive self-education on the subject. My ultimate goal is to master this so completely that I can handle any future installations or reinstalls entirely on my own without breaking a sweat.

Well, looking at the official eMachines website, I see they have several specific applications listed—things like Camera, launch manager, and Power Smart manager—which essentially function as application drivers. My assumption is that if Windows doesn't handle those automatically during the setup process, I’ll need to step in and install them manually to ensure everything runs smoothly. Furthermore, there are BIOS updates available, but they come with a rather daunting warning label: "Updating an incorrect BIOS may cause harm to your system. We recommend that you only do this after being instructed by one of our Customer Care representatives. By using these updates you agree to accept the possibility of product failure." Given how high the stakes are with something like a BIOS flash, I'm inclined to assume I shouldn't touch those unless Windows explicitly manages the update itself. It seems much safer to let the OS take the lead on system-level stability!

Tomorrow, I am planning a trip over to Best Buy to see when I can pick up the retail version, and once I have my hands on it, I intend to dive straight into the installation that very same day. I will be sure to check back in here on the forum either before I start or during the process itself—especially if I run into any unexpected hurdles—because, quite frankly, you all have been an absolute lifesaver.

There is actually one other matter entirely separate from the installation process that has me feeling a bit perplexed. I attempted to register this laptop on the official eMachines website and a few other American corporate sites, but every time I input the serial number, the registration is flatly rejected. I’ve reached out to their domestic support team to inquire about what on earth is going on, since I can't even get the basic registration to stick, and now I'm just sitting here waiting for a response; it feels rather suspicious to me. Interestingly enough, I went over to the Lexmark website to try registering a printer I bought a few years back, and the moment I entered the ID, it was accepted without a second thought! As far as this laptop goes, I haven't received anything beyond the invoice and the power adapter; there's no mention of warranty details or service info. Even the packaging seems recycled from an Acer Aspire, along with the drivers and all the paperwork. There wasn't even an extra cable included, though I had heard there should be one for an LCD monitor (I believe it's WGA). To make matters more bizarre, the machine came with a fake version of Windows 7 that finished installing in thirty minutes only to crash two days later, and when I looked at the system information, the hardware was claiming to be an HP laptop. It's all very strange...

Furthermore, I suspect this eMachines unit might be in somewhat questionable condition, but if it is, the core components are still primarily AMD-based 😛processor, motherboard, ATI Radeon graphics... The hardware doesn't strike me as being low-quality, which is the most vital part, even if the overall specs might be slightly more modest than I'd hoped.

Regardless of the oddities, Wise Guy, you have been incredibly helpful to me. Best regards.

Joshua Garcia3 said:Honestly, you’re treating the installation of Windows 7 like you're defending a PhD thesis! Look, Lawrence Doyle7, I don't mind you asking questions at all, but... it's like when you head to the restroom—do you carry just a single roll, or do you grab the whole twelve-pack? Just dive into the installation; it isn't going to be some insurmountable mountain. If you hit a snag, I'll be right here to help. 🙂👍

Clim, why the sudden attitude? Do you really have nothing better to do than obsess over reading about how to install Windows? I'm only on my second day of learning this stuff, and I promise, once I get the hang of it, I'll stop "terrorizing" you with my inquiries. Besides, maybe my questions will actually end up being helpful to someone else down the road. Wasn't there a time when you were also struggling to figure out how to install an OS?

I won't even be able to start the installation for another week because I'm still waiting for my Windows 7 copy to arrive. And what good would it do me to start now if you aren't around the forum to assist? Isn't it much smarter to ask everything upfront so I'm not left hanging depending on whether you happen to be online or not?

And why wouldn't I be a little worked up? You guys definitely took things a step too far. As for my reading comprehension or whether I'm actually doing my job—if you hadn't noticed, I'm the "Moderator" here. It was a long time ago when I was in that phase of not knowing what I was doing; I’m old school now, learned through trial and error. I already told you "andinowsky, look, I don't have a problem with you asking, but...", ", just start the installation; it won't be an issue. If you hit a snag, just ask.", as the "Moderator", I'm always available to help, so don't worry about it. 🙂 👍

Joshua Garcia3 said:And don't you dare suggest I'm being high-strung—you actually went a bit overboard there! As for my reading habits and whether I'm doing "smart work," if you haven't noticed, my role as a "Moderator" dictates that. That was a lifetime ago when I was still figuring things out; I'm old school now, built on trial and error. I even told you "Lawrence Doyle7, look, I have nothing against you asking questions, but..." "...just go ahead with the installation; you won't run into any trouble. If you hit a snag, just reach out." As a "Moderator", I am always here for you, so don't you worry one bit. 🙂 👍

Well, if you say so! So, I suppose that is the job then—primarily hunting down irregularities, hate speech, and such, which requires reading everything meticulously and stepping in to moderate when necessary. I see. HG, it took a while to get there, but as I mentioned before, I hardly have any questions left.

I can't jump right into it today, though; I'm heading out tomorrow to finalize the deal for the retail version so they can order it, and then I'll pick it up in a few days. They actually have them in stock at the local Best Buy right now, but the financing terms aren't nearly as attractive as what I can get at Net com. Once I actually start the installation process, I'm counting on you to stick to your word regarding the offer.

P.S. I was actually planning on diving into a multi-day debate over in the politics section, but I think I'll spare you from reading my massive essays this time; you've certainly earned a break.

Lawrence Doyle7 said:P.s. I was actually planning on jumping into a multi-day debate over in the politics section, but I think I'll spare you from reading my essays. You've earned a break.

You can go wild there. I'm not a moderator 😁 over in that section, so if you start down that path, you're basically asking for people to come after you. 😁 👍