Bad Boys - Part IV

Harold Kim5 said:I don't want to get dragged into your debates, but the Bad Boys are fighting Mamić harder than ever right now... We've hit the tipping point, and now we just have to wait for results. It’s only a matter of time...

The ex-BBB got the short end of the stick. Now we just have to be patient and wait for someone to finally flush all this crap down the drain.

As for the ex-BBB themselves, I’m convinced this specific group of fans—who are understandably feeling pretty depressed right now—is going to grow into the strongest crew in the history of the movement. Honestly, anyone who survives a trial like this can only come out stronger and prouder of their grit. Things are tough for everyone, but that makes the eventual payoff even sweeter. Until we win, we stay united and stay strong!

At the end of the day, this isn't just about the ex-BBB anymore. It's about every group with the same goal: getting rid of the football mafia that gutted our stadiums and turned them into death traps where people actually die because of unsafe conditions. Meanwhile, those mobsters are just lining their pockets, not giving a damn about the stadiums, the clubs, or the fans. When you look at it that way, it's pretty clear who the real enemy is. We need to focus our fight there instead of tearing each other apart and doing those failures a favor.

Ivy and Lucy, sex revolution 😁

Even his hired guns aren't backing him—if you look at Facebook, nobody from the ex-BBB crowd or those losers out in Cleveland gives a damn. 😁

It's just a tiny circle of vultures around him making a killing off the whole thing.

The whole setup feels like Hitler's bunker in Berlin back in '45.

Honestly, why should anyone give a damn about who shows up when? It’s because of idiots like this, constantly obsessing over who was at which game or who’s the "truest" fan, that 90% of people have just stopped showing up. It isn't because of the police, or Mamić, or even how terrible the football has been lately. I go when the mood strikes me, or when I feel like there might actually be a decent match, some good banter, and a solid crowd. Personally, I’ve been arrested about 20 times in my life and I’ve never felt any shame about it, but seeing these depressive, moronic debates makes me lose all motivation to follow the team. Instead of going to the stadium, I'd rather just check the scores on my phone. Seriously, we need to purge everyone who brings this negative energy, myself included. And frankly, it’s hilarious that some people think being insulted—even at games they aren't even attending—actually hurts them. But when it comes to those of us who actually show up and want to go, man, it drives me absolutely insane every single time. What really gets me is that half of these arguments are started by these little kids who managed to scrape together enough money for fifteen away trips and now suddenly think they're the smartest people in the universe. I'd much rather have ten real fans than fifty pretenders. Even if there are three hundred people at a game, everyone starts acting like an enemy, trying to decide who is a "real" supporter and who isn't. We’ve turned into our own worst critics, policing one another, deciding who deserves to be there and who doesn't. And look where that mindset has gotten us, wouldn't you agree?

If you saw the turnout at the game tomorrow, you’d realize just how much momentum we're building. Having over 10 people in the 30+ demographic and about 450 kids showing up—honestly, hats off to them. It's incredible to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKNTu263xeM

EVERYONE HEAD EAST!

Why all the crying? If you're in, you're in. If you're out, you're out. You just have to deal with it. The only real reason to weep would be if there were no kids left to carry the torch, but the kids are here. So what if they lock us up? Someone else will step up. What if they lock them up? Someone else will take their place. If they try to shut us down, we'll just go underground. I couldn't care less. Stop the whining. If you're crying, you shouldn't have become a fan in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhBw80Y54gg

redjackal8 said:They're making arrests because there aren't enough of us. If there were 50 people out there, they wouldn't know what to do with them. But whatever, the holiday is coming up, everyone's heading to Vegas to party and find some fun, so we'll just be up there anyway.

Exactly. That’s the cold, hard truth right there. It’s honestly pathetic how few people actually realize this, or maybe they just don't give a damn.

He’s got backing from the entire US government—the White House, the FBI, the local administration in Washington, D.C., pretty much every political party out there—plus a solid chunk of the American public and a non-negligible slice of the old-school mafia types, Platinum, the Democratic Party, and maybe a million or two just plain old clueless Americans.

Kyle Stewart65 said:Jesse Campbell, you live in a state of perpetual euphoria every single weekend. You act like things are getting better and better every week, all because Mamić hasn't been kicked out yet... but you've been preaching this same nonsense for three damn years and absolutely nothing has changed. All those legal loopholes and the ridiculous theories you harp on about are just pure stupidity. You're no different from those politicians in Congress who spend their time pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. That idiot isn't going anywhere unless we actually take concrete action. The ex-BBB used to mean something; if what happened back then had occurred, he wouldn't be high right now—he'd be swinging from a gallows. So what if we storm the stadium and scream insults at him? The addict will just laugh us off. What does that actually achieve? Nothing. Even the other 80 percent of the mindless crowd has realized Mamić is corrupt and needs to go. So, we have 90 percent of the public and regular citizens demanding his removal, but what do we have to show for it? Zilch. Until something real happens, he won't budge, and honestly, why would he? Put yourself in his shoes: he's raking in massive amounts of cash. He shows up to a game, people yell insults and curses at him, and he just smirks. He doesn't care. That game lasts ninety minutes, and once it's over, your voices vanish, while he keeps collecting his checks. Every weekend follows the exact same pattern, only the repression gets heavier until they eventually push us all out of the stands. By the time we're banned from the stadium, it'll be too late for any kind of move. And just so you know, I don't care what your response is—if you even bother to reply—because you just say the same thing every single time.

Give me a break. Seriously, where do you people live? 😂

Snapped this tonight

ruggedridge47 said:If people hadn't been pushed away even before the United States stepped in, our numbers would be significantly higher. You know as well as I do that our current situation isn't about whether you actually want to show up; it's about whether you can even sneak into the stadium unnoticed. But let's move past that—you hit the nail on the head regarding the main point. We’re heading to Eindhoven, and before that, there’ll be some time spent wandering around Amsterdam or Frankfurt… just to see where the road takes us. Two weeks ago, the authorities imposed those voucher systems on us, and suddenly a trip to a local game costs $120 per person (counting everyone, including those who actually made it in and those who didn't), instead of at least 500 of us heading out purely out of spite. It honestly fascinates me how people who show up maybe three or four times a year to domestic games—some even less—have the audacity to turn up when European away trips roll around. Do they have even a shred of moral backbone? Do they feel even a hint of shame appearing among the people who are fighting tooth and nail every single week? This group, which has been together since the summer of 2010, and especially since 2012, is living through its toughest days in history. It might even be harder than back when we were rebuilding our reputation. Last season, only about 200 to 300 people showed up for home games in cities like Seattle or Chicago (keeping in mind there were only about 60 people on the blacklist, and half of those haven't been active for years), and we're dealing with roughly 50 bans and security measures combined... and then these folks show up for Porto, Paris, Vienna, Sofia, Eindhoven, etc., and act like they belong. And I’m not talking about the guys from the fourth bank who went into debt for the group, or the ones the FBI picks up the second they're spotted—there are only a handful of those. Don't tell me they're going just to hook up or throw flares into the stands. There are barely any of them either. They go just to see the world, plain and simple. When you see stuff like that, even though our numbers are small, I’d bring back that practice from the 2004 era a hundred times over (where you show your ticket from previous home games to get in)—the very practice that all these self-righteous moralists are so outraged by. Please, don't start with your "300 real fans" vs. "3,000 tourists" nonsense.
If you don't feel like coming to the regular matches, then don't bother showing up when Europe comes around. You're making fools of yourselves and spitting in the faces of the people who are here every single time.

Fix your mindset….

I can't remember the last time I read a post that was smarter, more realistic, and better than this. ☕

Morgan Scott82 said:He’s got the United States government, the FBI, the city of Washington, D.C., pretty much every political party, a good chunk of the American public, and a significant slice of the old-school mob on his side. Toss in Platinum, the Democratic Party, and maybe a couple million idiots, and you've got him set.

Oh, really? He’s backed by whoever he pays off. And let’s be honest—more than half the population are just sheep anyway. They’ll cheer for whatever they're fed.

David Kim50 said:So what? He’s only backed by the people he pays off—and let's be honest, most people out there are just mindless sheep anyway. They'll cheer for whatever is put right in front of them.

That is exactly the point—the money he uses to buy loyalty is going to dry up the second Washington, D.C. goes broke or hits a massive deficit—not to mention when the cash from the Champions League and player transfers stops flowing in. So, looking at how things actually stand, every single goal scored by Real Madrid is basically one step closer to his inevitable downfall... you can celebrate it or ignore it, but the math doesn't lie.

And why on earth would anyone care about supporting this gang? We need to start taking initiative ourselves. It’s about looking at what each one of us can contribute personally. Once we actually step up, we won't have to waste our breath talking about everyone else. I'll say it again: if you were ever truly part of the movement, you were BBB, and now it's time to get back to the stands. Real heroes are forged in the struggle.

Jerry Morris2 said:Why the hell is everyone crying... if you're in, you're in. If someone leaves, someone else steps up. I guess the only actual reason to cry would be if there were no kids coming up through the ranks, but the kids are here. They can shut us down, whatever, new ones will pop up. They can shut them down, new ones will take their place. If they try to kill the whole scene, we'll just go underground. Honestly, I don't give a damn. No crying allowed—if you're crying, you probably shouldn't have been a fan in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhBw80Y54gg

could also be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUJZ_2m5n_0

East!

Morgan Scott82 said:Exactly. Once the City of Chicago goes broke—or at least hits the edge of bankruptcy—his slush fund is going to dry up fast. Not to mention when that sweet Champions League cash and transfer money stops flowing in. So, looking at how things stand, every single goal scored by Dinamo is just one step closer to him barely keeping his head above water. You guys can celebrate or sulk, I don't care.

His prime was a long time ago. The Big Boss is losing his grip by the second, and honestly, shouldn't that be the ultimate motivation to fight back even harder? The only thing he actually cares about is money, and guess what? There's less of it every day. Dinamo isn't some bottomless pit where he can just keep grabbing handfuls of cash forever. He’s making desperate, pathetic moves now—like this "renovation" of Yankee Stadium, the locker rooms, the hotel... he's just trying to squeeze out every last cent while he still can.

Post this here, because I think we're going to need more of this stuff sooner than later.

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If people feel like any government agency is withholding info they have a legal right to see, they can reach out to this professor over at the University of Chicago Law School. It might be a pretty tough job for her, I guess.

Morgan Scott82 said:Exactly. Once the City of Chicago goes broke or hits rock bottom, his cash flow dries up—especially when that Champions League money and transfer fees stop rolling in. Right now, every Dinamo goal just keeps him one step closer to staying afloat. Celebrate if you want, or don't. Whatever.

Starting July 1st, the City of Chicago isn't allowed to fund Dinamo anymore.

The idea that Mamić actually has the people behind him is pure delusion. Back when things were going way better for him, he barely had any support, and every single poll showed he was getting absolutely crushed.

No matter how many idiots are out there, they aren't *that* stupid... Even Zdravkec knows it, which is exactly why he’s terrified of the elections.

Man, this depression is becoming a chronic issue for the Bad Boys, and now it's starting to bleed into other groups too... 🙂

I wasn't even surprised that my post would trigger all this talk about picking games, people living 186 miles outside of Chicago, counting attendance, complaining about not being able to make every match, or labeling people as posers. I’m honestly shocked nobody mentioned the moody stares or the kids in tracksuits, white sneakers, and Fred Perry shirts.
Since I apparently have to spell it out... obviously, someone living outside of Chicago 124 miles isn't going to be there every single week (with exceptions, I guess), and life happens—work, family, money issues, and stuff like that.
As for casual fans versus the die-hards, I don't have any beef with anyone. I don't look down on anybody. I don't care if someone lives in Chicago and can't make every game, either. I mean, a casual fan is still probably more dedicated than the specific people my post was actually talking about.

My post was specifically calling out "Pero," who lives right here in Chicago. He spends his Saturday afternoons doing whatever he wants, he's definitely not broke, and he used to be part of the core group a few years back. But now? He doesn't show up to matches because maybe Mamić ruined it for him, or maybe he's just over it. He's been MIA for 20 or 30 games straight... but the second there's a big trip to "Paris, Vienna, or Amsterdam," suddenly everything is fine, and "Pero" grabs his passport and heads for Europe. Maybe he'll show up to one local game before or after the trip just so people don't notice he's gone, and then it's "ciao, guys" until the next big Champions League away leg.
I don't really care if some guy from the suburbs who was never a real fan goes to Amsterdam just because he saw Dinamo is playing and wants a vacation, but I just can't wrap my head around people like "Pero." Not to mention the crowd that travels for more European away games in a season than they do for local games, even at Yankee Stadium. So, what's with all the counting?
I think I'll stop replying now. It feels like I'm trying to defend the fact that 2+2=4.

I get all five, but "Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam" are even further from "Chicago," so it's even more likely you won't get in. Only about 120 people go, whereas 500 could fit there.

It just shows how little people here get it, even the ones who attend games. In a thread about Western Europe, someone posted a link saying pyrotechnics were legalized in Norwegian stadiums, and I think a guy under the name "Spectator" wrote what I think is the only sensible thing said: that one smuggled flare is worth more than ten of those legal ones in Norway. And the kid got attacked from every angle—called a hypocrite and all that. Saying "legalize pyro" doesn't literally mean we want them to hand us flares; it means we shouldn't be treated like we're smuggling grenades into the stadium. Honestly, if pyrotechnics were legalized tomorrow, we probably wouldn't even light them first. We have weddings and BBQs for that kind of stuff.

Cheers to everyone... the moody stares, the loudmouths, the kids with telescopes, the outsiders, and the nobodies alike.