Bad Boys - Part IV

I honestly don't get it. One minute you're all against Mamic and fighting for the players, and the next you're acting just as obnoxious as you were yesterday when you were celebrating and chanting "Screw Split, Real Madrid are champions." I can respect a certain level of rivalry, sure, but why act so hyperactive over Real Madrid's victories? The reality is that this isn't a club right now; it's Zdravko Mamic's private enterprise. By fighting against his interests while simultaneously cheering for their wins, you're basically just spitting in your own faces. You should have stuck to the boycott instead of being so inconsistent—showing up for some away games and then half-heartedly supporting at home. You know how the wind blows, right?

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zubo 🇹🇴

Screw you. 🙂

copperharbor02 said:Those guys over at ZZD and a few others just proved that you actually can get through the door if you know how to play the game.

Look, you don't need to go banging your head against a wall every single time. Playing it incognito and running all those little schemes... honestly, at the end of the day, the end justifies the means. 😉

Forget all that "incognito mode" nonsense—what's even the point when 90% of us have to hand over our government IDs anyway?

Joshua Hill47 said:I honestly don't get you people. One minute you’re all over the place, acting like you hate Mamic and everything to do with the players, and the next, you're acting like total hypocrites. I saw you lot yesterday, absolutely losing your minds, singing "screw Split, Real Madrid are the champs!" Look, I get having an opinion up to a certain point, but what's the deal? Why are you still shaking and celebrating every single win for Real Madrid when you claim to despise the whole setup? Make up your damn minds.

Not everyone was celebrating. 👍

Adio 🇹🇴

Joshua Hill47 said:I just don't get you guys, honestly. One minute you're all up in arms against Mamic and the players and everything else, acting all high and mighty, and then suddenly you're acting just like yesterday when you were celebrating and screaming "screw Split, Real Madrid are the champions!" Okay, I get it to a point, but why the hell are you all freaking out over Real Madrid's wins now? Look, right now this isn't even a club; it's just Zdravko Mamic and his private little empire. By fighting against that while still cheering, you're basically just spitting in your own faces. You should have stayed on strike instead of doing this half-hearted thing where you show up for some away games and then stay home for others. You know how the wind blows, I guess...

Yeah, right... Mamic probably just handed you a trophy and you all shut up immediately...

If you were actually real fans, you would've caused a massive scandal by pulling out of this rigged league entirely, instead of just settling for crumbs like dogs fighting over a bone.

Mamic is playing you all for fools, and yet 60% of Dalmatia is out here yelling that if only Mamic was running Hajduk or if Stimac had stayed, they could actually stand up to Real Madrid.

You guys would be absolutely losing it if you had even half the repression we have to deal with.

And you still sit there thinking the Bad Boys are actually celebrating this Super Cup and the win over Hajduk.

Gary Martinez80 said:Oh, please... Mamic hands you a trophy on a silver platter and you all start celebrating immediately.

If you were actual die-hard fans, you would have caused a massive scandal by withdrawing from this rigged league instead of settling for crumbs like dogs fighting over a bone.

Mamic is playing you all for fools, yet 60% of Dalmatia is out here shouting that if only Mamic were running Hajduk, or if only Stimac had stayed, they could actually challenge Real Madrid.

You wouldn't last a second against even half of the repression we have to endure.

And you still honestly believe the Bad Boys are celebrating this cup and the win over Hajduk as a genuine achievement.

Your only real argument over the last year has been that you’d go wild if you faced the same level of suppression we do. But that’s just because you’re feeling the heat yourselves; the repression targeting Torcida and other fan groups has never been this intense. The reason you're getting screwed lately is because Mamic pulls all the strings. Your core issue goes way back—you lost the support of ordinary people who aren't part of the hardcore fan scene because you created such a negative reputation for yourselves. Even with recent charitable work, it’s hard to change that image. It’s only now, after all these years, that you've finally started using your heads and moving toward a more professional approach, handling things through ZZD and our Hajduk project.
If they win a cup, it’s because Mamic rigged it for us—and it probably was. We should be withdrawing from the league entirely. I certainly won't recognize any trophy if Mamic has his fingers in it, just like that title from 2005. Why don't you look back at the last decade and see how many championships Real Madrid "won" via rigging? Why haven't you withdrawn? Why do you cheer for this club on away trips when it isn't even your club, but just Mamic's personal plaything? Why didn't you maintain the boycott to protect the integrity of your group? Instead, you embarrassed yourselves by coming back. What have you actually done on the terraces to help get Mamic out of the club? Nothing. You just received bans, faced repression, and ended up on blacklists. This fight needs to be fought through ZZD and the legal system, but once again, Mamic has a hand in everything, making it incredibly difficult. For those of you who think things should be handled differently, you know where Mamic lives, so go settle it. Unlike you, gentlemen, we haven't been hoisting banners for specific agendas like you did with KOLAPS, which only showed how far behind us you are mentally in certain respects. Don't push my luck; I'm not going to keep posting on this forum or engage in endless debates. Enjoy. 😉

Joshua Hill47 said:Your only argument this past year is that we’d lose it if we dealt with the same repression you guys do. Except you're the ones feeling the heat—nobody ever targets the fan club or other groups like this. You're getting screwed lately because the sports mogul pulls all the strings. Your real issue goes way back; you've lost the support of regular people outside the stands because you made yourselves look bad,

And what kind of support do you actually have? How many people backed The old ways? How many people even show up for our Hajduk?

The only reason you had any backing was because the local media loved having someone to oppose that local tycoon. Period. And obviously, since we're a bigger threat to the mafia and the cops than you are, the media circus and the crackdown on us is way more intense. You get 500 people showing up at the provincial government and act like it's a massive crowd. Meanwhile, we get 1,000 people at the West Stand and suddenly it's a total failure...

All those compromises you make? It's just to please 100 outsiders from the fan group who kiss your ass... 🙄

Then these jokers show up from the USA, smell some easy money, and suddenly 70% of the news sites are trashing the fan group for being against a powerhouse like Hajduk Split. I can only imagine what the percentage would be if the sports mogul showed up.

Jesse Campbell said:And what kind of support do you actually have? How many people backed The old ways? How many people are actually doing the work for our Hajduk Split?

You had the local media behind you simply because you were the opposition to that local tycoon—that’s it. Of course, since we represent a much more serious threat to the mob and the police, the media frenzy and the repression against us are exponentially higher. You gather 500 people outside the provincial government and act like it's a massive crowd—give me a break—yet when we gather 1,000 under the West Stand, it's treated like a total failure...

All these compromises you make—for what? For the sake of 100 guys outside the fan club who will kiss your ass... 🙄

Then these ridiculous types show up from the USA, smelling money in the air, and suddenly 70% of the news outlets are trashing the fan group for being "against" a powerful Hajduk Split. I can only imagine what the percentage would be if a sports mogul like Mamić showed up.

First off, you always twist the facts just to suit your narrative and make yourself look right—there's honestly no point arguing with a brick wall...
Secondly, the issue is that news sites are full of people like you, which is why they aren't taken seriously. 😉 You see there's no helping them; just laugh and move on... 👋

Jesse Campbell said:What kind of support do you actually have? How many people backed The old ways? How many people even show up for our Hajduk?

The only reason you had media backing was because you were acting as the opposition to that local tycoon idiot, and that’s it. Of course they go after us harder—we’re a bigger threat to the mob and the cops than they are, so the media circus and the crackdown is way worse. You get 500 people gathered at the provincial government office and act like it’s a massive turnout? Give me a break. We pull 1,000 under the West Side and everyone calls it a failure...

All these compromises you make... for what? For some 100 guys outside the fan club who’ll kiss your ass? 🙄

Then these jokers fly in from the USA, smell the money, and suddenly 70% of the news sites are trashing the fan group for opposing a "strong" Hajduk Split. Imagine if a sports mogul showed up instead; imagine what the percentage would be then.

Comparing the influence of the fan group here in Miami to yours in NYC is pathetic. If you managed to achieve even a tenth of what the fan group did for Hajduk Split, you wouldn't stop bragging about it for the rest of your lives.
And this whole talk about having "mass support" is a joke. Fan groups aren't political parties meant to sell fake promises to the masses. Fans attract people who actually get it, and that’s never going to be a huge crowd.
Even so, we have way more influence over this city and the club than you ever will. You guys are basically irrelevant now. Not sure why you keep trying to pull this bullshit.

Brandon Hill5 said:Comparing what the fan club does in Miami to what you guys do in NYC is a joke. If you actually pulled even a tenth of what that fan group did for Hajduk Split, you'd be too full of yourselves to even step foot in Europe.

😂

We did more for Dinamo Chicago in the 90s than you lot will do in the next 800 years...

You're a joke.

You all did so much back in the nineties to support Dinamo Chicago, yet it seemed like everything had to fall apart with the previous administration just so you could try to bring the club back to life.
Now, you’re putting in just as much effort in this current struggle, but it feels like you're all just waiting around for that sports mogul to pass away, almost as if you're lighting candles and praying for his health to fail just so he can finally be gone.
It’s quite a story you’ve built for yourselves. ☕

Brandon Hill5 said:Comparing the influence of the fan club in Miami to yours in NYC is something even a toddler wouldn't attempt.

Trying to compare Miami and NYC—it's child's play, really.

slyskipper9 said:🙈

What was it actually like when you all felt the crackdown at the Rose Bowl against the New York Red Bulls? You didn't even have any banners up, yet here you are mocking the treatment the Chicago Bulls received...

slyskipper9 said:What was actually going on, guys, when you felt all that heat at the Rose Bowl during the match against LA FC? You didn't even have any banners up to show what you stood for, yet here you are, acting all smug and talking about how the Bad Boys were being targeted...

Seriously, go ahead and ask yourself what actually happened there.

Why do you guys have to be so dense? Instead of actually working together to take down the establishment... we’re all just bickering like idiots. :nezna:

Mark Thompson2 said:Why does everyone have to be so dense? Instead of actually teaming up to take down this whole corrupt crew... we're all just sitting here bickering like idiots.:unhappy:

Because we're all idiots. Every single one of us.

Mark Thompson2 said:why're you guys always acting so stupid? instead of actually teaming up to take down the establishment.. we're just out here fighting each other like idiots..:nezna:

The question pretty much answers itself: you can't work with morons. If you could, they wouldn't be morons...

copperharbor02 said:Because we’re all just idiots—every single one of us.

Finally, a decent post in this absolute dumpster fire of a thread 👍 Honestly, once you see the state of American soccer—and let's be real, the state of most people's heads—you realize we probably don't even deserve better. 🙄

Honestly, I wish they’d just ban everyone and shut the whole scene down. It’s just a bunch of idiots fighting on both sides, and frankly, who cares? We didn't deserve anything better anyway. 😉

And you, man—why don't you go hang out at that tiny little pond over by the lake and throw some more trash in there? 😉

Dennis Davis97 said:I hope everyone gets banned so the whole scene just dies out—just idiots fighting idiots from all sides. Honestly, who cares? We haven't earned anything better. 😉

And you—just go sit by some tiny local pond and throw more trash in the water. 😉

Just shut it all down and call it a day.
Quietly... tick tock.
😂

Why on earth were you all cheering for that penalty call? 🤷
I was under the impression that you people were supposed to be against the Mamicev officials and their whole operation. Would you suddenly start chanting about how corrupt the league is if they actually handed a win to Dinamo? 🤷

silverbear38 said:Why were you guys celebrating a penalty that was clearly given? 🤷
I thought you guys were all against Mamicev’s refs and that whole setup. Are you actually going to start chanting "corrupt federation" just because the ruling went against Dinamo? 🤷

Man, get serious.