Bad Boys - Part IV

Yeah, that’s clearly the move—just more "explaining things" to the average fan! As if everything any damn guy from Scranton needs to know hasn't been politely hammered into their heads for nearly three years straight. It’s been plastered all over every single American news outlet and every possible website, left or right, on the Daily News, HBO, RTLA, the main networks, local news stations, and even those niche channels like 4 Rijeka and TV black gypsy. And this wasn't even coming from the guys who "wear tracksuits and feminine belts," or those "moody dudes in black bomber jackets trying to look like English hooligans." No, these were people presenting actual arguments calmly and persistently to every Joe Blow out there, to the club members, and to anyone with a pulse. But hey, since those Steve types just completely ignored it all anyway, I guess the best solution is to just wait for Judgment Day to settle it.

supporter said:ughhh 🤣

does this mean those damn sale losers actually showed up here 🙏

and stuff...🙏 😁

from the USFA?!

Man, the BBB crowd made up like 60-70% of the entire MLS viewership last season, and now these losers are showing up asking where we went.

I’m praying this is just some club PR stunt, because if someone is actually doing this for reasons other than money—if they truly have this kind of mindset—then civilization is officially cooked... 🙂

After those three blatant officiating blunders, you’d have to be a complete idiot not to see why we’re up in arms against Mamić.
And as for this supposed "atmosphere" at the stadium... the players are out here claiming everything was perfect during the matchup against Indianapolis, so I'm honestly just lost at this point 😁

Thomas Williams59 said:Exactly. Let’s just offer more explanations to the "average fans." As if everything every single Steve in Cleveland needed to know hasn't been politely hammered into their heads for three years straight. It's been everywhere—every major outlet from The New York Times to PBS and CNN, plus all those local news stations and even MTV. And this wasn't coming from people "wearing tracksuits and acting like wannabe English hooligans"; these were serious voices calmly repeating the same arguments to the club members and the public alike. Yet, the Steves ignored it all. So sure, let's wait until Judgment Day for them to listen.

What do you think...
If we had asked people like that back then, who knows what Dynamo would be called today... we might already be looking at a seventh name change.
People like this always have that "what if things were different without the corrupt management" routine.
I honestly believe they'd be more disappointed by mediocre results at an honest club than by a crooked administration, because a crooked administration can at least briefly compete with someone like Barca or Milan.
Meanwhile, an honest team playing in the lower leagues doesn't interest anyone in the West.
That's the reality.

Eric Hughes8 said:from the NFL?!

No, that was just some playground nonsense.🙏

😁

Man, I bet it’s pouring rain in Luxembourg right now, so they’re all just losing their minds on this forum from their hotel rooms.🤣

analogstag16 said:Give me a break... there have been endless articles written about this topic over the last three years—it’s just that they didn't bother printing them in coloring books for toddlers, primers for first graders, or textbooks for high schoolers. So what’s the takeaway? That we're just dealing with a bunch of clones messing around? :smirk

Don't go jumping to conclusions without any actual proof. Yeah, sure, there are trolls here looking to stir the pot, but there are ALSO people who genuinely want to hear things straight from the source because they honestly don't understand jack shit. It’s way easier to just tell someone, "Hey, go read the deep dive article first, then come back here so we can actually talk," instead of immediately labeling them a moron or a paid shill—which is exactly what a lot of people in this group do. If you think the average fan doesn't matter, then you might as well forget about ever educating a "regular" Dynamo supporter. Honestly... better to save my energy for something more productive than arguing with trolls...

"Chicago doesn't have a complex or powerful core of die-hard fans, which is why we see such a theatrical, almost staged atmosphere at Dynamo, the Lakers, the local Handball team, and so on—teams that actually deserve much better support. It seems everyone just gave up on them, and now, out of sheer helplessness and frustration, you people push back against anything that doesn't align with your views, while the rest of the crowd stays quiet and refuses to think critically about it."

We really need to address this. People turned their backs on the Lakers as far back as 1989, and since that Cibona-AEK matchup, the relationship has been hit-or-miss at best. As for the Handball team, things fell apart once those small-timers took over. Besides, regarding the idea that we're obligated to cheer for all those clubs—look, we're football fans. If there were a truly elite sports organization like Dynamo worth following, maybe then we'd show up.

wanderingtrucker9 said:"Chicago doesn't have a complex, powerful core of fans, which is why we get those theater-like atmospheres at Dynamo, the Lakers, the Handball team, and so on—teams that actually deserve much better support. They all ditched you, and now, out of pure helplessness and frustration, you just push back against anything and everything that doesn't align with your views, while everyone else remains a quiet mass too lazy to even think about it."

You've gotta address this one. The Lakers were basically tossed aside way back in '89, and after their game against AEK, things just went cold... the Handball team got sidelined once those small-timers showed up... and besides, what's this about us needing to cheer for those clubs? We're football fans. Period. If there was a decent multi-sport club like Dynamo, then sure, people would show up...

The Lakers situation happened even later. They really pushed people away about ten years ago when they wouldn't let us run our choreography, especially during that heated matchup against Partizan, and then Miller goes and says he doesn't need any hooligans in the arena. You're right about the Handball team, but honestly, I think all those clubs deserved one more shot... especially the Lakers, since Bob finally moved on from them...

Honestly, which one of those clubs mentioned above would even want the Black and Gold faithful showing up at their games? That’s really the million-dollar question right there.

ironraven45 said:Honestly, which one of those top-tier clubs would even want the Black and Gold faithful showing up at their games? That’s really the heart of the matter.

The whole "12th man" thing isn't just some made-up slogan. Just think back to when we drew Arsenal and the rest of the "elite" teams in the tournament. Their first reaction was always identical: "Why on earth are these guys coming with such a wild atmosphere?" They didn't even bother mentioning Luka Modrić or anyone else of that caliber.
It all comes down to high-stakes, unpredictable matches. In a game like this against some bunch of sellouts, they’d probably find our presence pretty aggravating.

ironraven45 said:Which of those teams would even want the Black and Gold faithful at their games? That’s the real question here.

Gobac. Instantaneously.

analogstag16 said:The whole "12th man" thing isn't just some made-up nonsense. Think back to when we drew Arsenal and the rest of the "elite" clubs in those draws. Their first reaction is always the exact same: "Why are these guys here making such a scene?" They don't even bother mentioning Modrić or the rest of us.
That logic holds up during those high-stakes, nail-biting games. Against some random bottom-tier team? They probably wouldn't give a damn about us.

I’m with you there. And I get why you used that Arsenal game as your go-to example—the atmosphere in those stands was absolutely legendary.😁

@Jesse Campbell: You really think Gobac would jump on this right away? Honestly, I think he might actually be down for it. But the others? Good luck. They see our group as nothing but trouble—unwanted, excessive, a headache.
Still, man, being able to head back to the big games in the city again... that would be something.😉

ironraven45 said:I’m right there with you. It’s pretty obvious you picked that Arsenal match as your example because the atmosphere from the fans during that game was absolutely incredible.😁

What I actually meant was how the clubs reacted immediately after the draw, regardless of what happened with Arsenal.

In the meantime, groups like the Smogovac fans, the White Lions, and several others have formed, and honestly, let them go ahead and try to stir up some chaos...

Christian Jones said:We didn't even bother showing up to Cibona that late; they basically burned those bridges about ten years ago when they wouldn't let us bring in our choreography, then we went all out against Partizan, and finally, Miličević made it clear he didn't want any "hooligans" in the arena. You've got a point about RK Chicago, but honestly, I think all those clubs deserve one more shot—especially Cibona, now that Božo has finally moved on from them.

So, Božo leaves and Bandić steps in? He installs his own guy, Lovrić, and suddenly, lo and behold, an $80 million debt just vanishes into thin air...

I’d love to know how that magic trick works...

You spend all this time fighting Mamić, yet you're totally fine with this...

It’s like saying if Mamić walks out and some other version of Mamić walks in, everything is great, and we should start cheering because the old guy is gone...

As long as the actual members of these clubs don't get a say in who runs the board, these teams don't deserve any support from anyone.☕

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Honestly, we could probably split the crowd up between some NBA games and a Chicago Bulls matchup. We’ve got tens of thousands of us now—it’s getting to the point where we don't even know where to fit all this energy. It would be smart to divide the group by sport: the younger crowd heads to the basketball arena, the older guys catch a Bulls game, and those of us in the middle can stick with Real Madrid. It just makes sense to avoid massive overcrowding. When you have ten thousand people showing up for just one sport, it becomes a mess. Our numbers are at an all-time high right now, and it would be a real shame not to capitalize on that momentum.

For anyone out there wondering where we stand—why we’re at war with the front office, why we’re lighting flares, why we aren't showing up, why they’re banning us from the stadium, why we refuse to be satisfied with Jerry Maguire, or why we couldn't care less about how much money Real Madrid has or which players they've signed—please, before you start any serious debates, I'm asking the uninitiated to take a look at these links.

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... so next time you find yourselves celebrating a Real Madrid victory, maybe take a second to ask yourselves: what exactly are you celebrating, and who are you actually cheering for?

Eric Phillips52 said:Honestly, we could totally split our focus between the Bulls and the Lakers—with tens of thousands of us, I don't even know where we'd all fit! It would be such a smart move to divide the crew by sport; maybe the younger crowd heads to see the Bulls, the older fans stick with the Lakers, and those of us in the middle can rally behind Real Madrid. It’d prevent any massive crowds—it’s just not ideal when there are ten thousand of us all trying to watch one single game. Our group is at an all-time high right now—it would be a real shame not to make the most of it.

By following multiple sports or different teams, you actually get that perfect effect—instead of splitting people up, it really strengthens the bond and makes the whole group feel even more unified...
You can find plenty of examples of this across Europe if you look closely... 😉