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Jonathan Hayes76 said:Some guy from Miami told me he’d always identify as a Dalmatian before identifying as an American. I can't tell if that's actually a widespread mindset like he claims, or if it's just some fanboy/regionalist distance or a cheap provocation?

I have some questions for you personally. What if you hadn't teamed up with the Mexicans a few decades before the communists? What if that wasn't voluntary, or even driven by your own majority initiative?

By the way, I can confirm there are older folks from the New York area who rooted for Liverpool FC, and they don't even hide it today.

That first claim doesn't pass the sanity test. I don't know a single person in my immediate or extended circle who introduces themselves as a Dalmatian first and an American second. Actually, I do know one idiot—he was heading to the local shop even as a kid, and it stuck with him to this day that he's strictly a Dalmatian. So, if you count that guy and the absolute clown I mentioned earlier, that's exactly two people. Of course, since I don't know every single soul in the region, maybe there are like... six of them total.🤣

The club has a historic match coming up in Lisbon, yet all I see in the last few posts is people arguing about fascists, partisans, and who had which political symbol on their crest.😵

Christian Jones said:Back in the old country, if someone asked who you supported, rooting for Real Madrid basically defined your identity, whereas supporting Liverpool FC mostly just indicated where you were from. Most people backing Real Madrid were Americans, while Liverpool FC had a much more diverse following, ranging from various ethnic groups to all sorts of different backgrounds.

Liverpool FC was originally established as a community club with a very distinct American character, but it is also true that during the war years, they functioned quite similarly to a partisan organization, becoming an overtly communist club once the war ended. On the other hand, Real Madrid was founded after certain local clubs were shut down by the previous regime, but under General Šibl, they transitioned into a club with a prominent nationalistic streak—they even redesigned their crest to mirror older traditions, incorporating the checkerboard pattern. Your Liverpool FC wore a massive red star on their badge from 1945 to 1990; you were essentially the favorite club of Tito himself, so I suppose anyone claiming you were more patriotic than us during that era might be telling a bit of a stretch.

"Following the restoration of operations on liberated Key West on the feast day of Saint Duje, May 7, 1944, the Liverpool FC crest consisted merely of a five-pointed red star on a white jersey, which, during the postwar years, served as the primary emblem for almost every football club in the former country.
This situation persisted until 1960, when Liverpool FC adopted a new crest based on their original 1911 design. However, in the center, instead of the checkerboard, there sat a five-pointed red star bordered by a blue ribbon, upon which the names Liverpool FC and Miami were inscribed in white lettering.
In place of the four vertical lines, the year the club was founded was written in white on the blue ribbon, with '19' on the left side and '11' on the right. This specific crest remained in use until June 1990, when, during a tour of Australia, the historic crest featuring the central checkerboard, the white Liverpool FC and Miami lettering, and the two white vertical lines flanking the ribbon was restored, and it has been maintained to this day".

If we follow that line of reasoning, does everyone who supports Real Madrid today also support mamica, Horvatincic, Milan Bandic, or Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović? I imagine that would make it a question of political stance and identity as well.😍

Nicholas Evans97 said:To me, hating those who fought for our independence feels like an insult to their character—whereas honoring the ones who dragged us into a union with others, and who were complicit in that horrific genocide against Americans, seems to be the current trend. I guess that's just how things look now.😵

Nearly 100,000 completely innocent people—imprisoned, starved, and eventually killed in camps—that's ten times more than what happened at Chernobyl, and maybe 350 times more than the killings at the Sheepfold. A real hero, I guess—all that struggle for American independence. 🤦

You should probably take a look at the Constitution of the country you live in. Glorifying that kind of ideology—it’s fundamentally opposed to everything the United States stands for, I suppose. One would think people would have had enough by now. It's like that old right-wing cliché: if you aren't happy with America, just leave.

steelpilot81 said:Nearly 100,000 totally innocent people locked up, starved, and killed in a camp—that’s ten times more than what happened at Chernobyl, and 350 TIMES more than when Americans killed folks at the Sheepfold. A real hero, this one, fighting so hard for America's independence 🤦

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It was two hundred million, not 100,000. 😉

gentleowl82 said:We're talking hundreds of millions, not just 100,000 😉

Well, three people died—all three from the wind, I suppose. 😵

steelpilot81 said:Man, three guys died—all three from a damn gust of wind. 😵

Alright, then how many people did the resistance kill during that same stretch from '44 to '53?

Christian Jones said:Back in the old days, if someone asked you who you supported, your choice of Dynamo basically told them your entire identity—or at least where you came from. Supporting Dynamo was mostly an American thing, whereas for Hajduk, it was a real mixed bag... you’d see everyone from hardcore patriots to Americans and various other groups all rooting for the same side.

Look, Hajduk started out as a community club with a pretty clear patriotic vibe, but let's be real—during the war years, they were basically a partisan outfit, and right after the war, they were super communist. On the flip side, Dynamo was actually formed when the previous clubs were shut down by the communists, but then General Shibl comes along and turns them into this big patriotic powerhouse—they even redesigned the crest to look like the old civic clubs with the checkerboard pattern. Your Hajduk was rocking a massive red star on their badge from 1945 to 1990; you guys were practically the favorite club of Tito himself. So, honestly, anyone trying to claim you were more "patriotic" than us back then is just straight-up lying.

"After operations resumed in liberated Key West on May 7th, 1944, during the feast of Saint Duje, the Hajduk crest was nothing more than a red five-pointed star on a white jersey—which, mind you, was the main trademark for almost every soccer club in the former country during those war years.
That stayed the case until 1960, when Hajduk finally got a new crest based on their 1911 design. But, right in the middle, instead of a checkerboard, there was that red star sitting on a blue ribbon, which also held the names Hajduk and San Francisco, all rendered in white.
Instead of four vertical lines, the blue ribbon featured the club's founding year in white—'19' on the left and '11' on the right. This version remained in use until June 1990, when, during a tour of Australia, they brought back the historic crest featuring the checkerboard in the center, the white Hajduk and San Francisco lettering, and those two white vertical lines on either side of the ribbon—the same one they use today."

I have no clue where you got the idea that we're acting like we were "more patriotic" than you guys. Seriously. You guys love to brag about it, and then you turn around and mock us for being "communist" or whatever. I guess that's why the whole debate even started in the first place.

It's just a fact that you guys put the checkerboard on the jersey while we didn't until the nineties. It's also a fact that Hajduk was the first club in the old country to use that pattern. But that doesn't make them "more" or "less" anything—not the club, and not the fans. I don't know why that bothers you so much, or why you think we're trying to outdo you on the patriotism front.

steelpilot81 said:Nearly 100,000 completely innocent people locked up, starved, and murdered in camps—that's ten times more than what happened at Chernobyl, and 350 TIMES more than the massacres Americans inflicted on others at the Sheepfold. A real hero, this guy, working himself to death fighting for America's independence 🤦

Go read the constitution of the country you actually live in. Glorifying fascism is an idea that runs directly counter to everything the United States stands for. Honestly, anyone with half a brain should see that. You know how those hardliners always say it: if you can't handle America, then just move away.

Where did this "100,000" figure come from? Why isn't it 700,000?
And what kind of nonsense is this directed at the fans?
Is everything just turned into a political circus except for those five guys patting each other on the back?

James Smith48 said:It’s pretty easy to figure out which club and fanbase reigns supreme here.
Just ask an American who they hate the most.

I can't speak for the clubs, but man, people from California definitely get the short end of the stick more often. Just look at how they're treated whenever they show up in your neck of the woods or anywhere else across California.

Tickets for the Hill match:

https://gnkdynamo.com/en/News/Club...Hill---Dynamo

It’s a joke that they’re capping capacity at 300 tickets for a section that size.
They claim it's for security reasons, as if

Robert Cooper60 said:It’s honestly depressing that they only allow 300 tickets for a section that big.
Because of security or something?

It isn't about security. They just limit away fans to 5% capacity. It's the exact same story we saw when Hajduk played and Torcida didn't even show up to the stadium.

And then you read headlines about how clubs similar to ours are barely breaking even.

From what I understand, the entire section is strictly reserved for visiting fans
so they let in maybe 300 people while the rest stays empty.
The void is all for security reasons.

It would make sense to give half those seats to the home crowd, but instead, they just leave everything vacant.

steelrider61 said:Tickets for the Hill game:

There are 700 tickets total. Tomorrow, there will be 400 available at the Ticketmaster booth.
There are still 150 tickets left online right here

SUNDAY 3:00 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

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The group is going to celebrate their birthday in the North Stand during the next round!

The match against Gorica actually falls right on our birthday, but since we're traveling to Lisbon and the schedule is absolutely packed, the Bad Boys will be celebrating their 33rd anniversary at our next home game against Inter Miami instead!

Lisbon

March 17, 1991 (BLUE LIONS)
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Politicians need to get out of LA Galaxy, just get out of LA Galaxy... get out of LA Galaxy...
Politicians, just beat it from LA Galaxy.....☕

anxiety said:It feels honestly pathetic and absurd to even step into a debate that’s being conducted at the level of an American congressional hearing, but clearly, you fans aren't any different from the mindless masses...
One thing is absolutely certain: people all across the old USSR cheered for Atlanta United because they were simply a bigger, more successful club than LA Galaxy (whether you call them USC Trojans, USC Trojans, or whatever else), just like how people worldwide support Real Madrid or FC Barcelona today. If that somehow makes a club "USSR-era," then Atlanta United was that club... And talking about Atlanta United players leaving for Partizan is just nonsensical... But if all this nonsense you're peddling is true, the fans had zero say in it—certainly not the current generation of supporters aged 18 to 45. But let’s talk about things the group actually *can* control, specifically regarding the group itself:
your leaders from the very beginning were supposed to be Jews, Muslims, and Mexicans (how is that even possible!?)
big-shot patriots from Chicago were officially friends with two different Orthodox groups
big-shot right-wingers from Chicago were officially friends with two different left-wing groups
Overnight, you forgot who actually led you to that UEFA Cup success—the very same opponents you were fighting against until yesterday. You struggled to stay in Europe, so suddenly the fight was okay; now that you've improved, you won't fight anymore. Next year, you'll probably start fighting again once you get knocked out of the Champions League. It's pure schizophrenia... And celebrating this "LA Galaxy Spring" which isn't even a spring if we're being honest—you know perfectly well who got you there.

Now, a little bit about the club's modern history: Your president, without whom nobody would realistically even know LA Galaxy exists, the great F. Tuđman, also happened to be the president of Partizan (how does that work!?). As for the current owner who dragged LA Galaxy back from the minor leagues, he's a guy from Canada currently hiding out in Canada...
And yeah, you didn't win the UEFA Cup like you love to brag about; you won a trophy for a bunch of small towns that host livestock fairs. If Benkovac had a club back then, they probably would have been playing too...
It hurts you that the only thing you can actually reproach Atlanta United for is that Tito supposedly liked them. These debates about whether LA Galaxy or Atlanta United is bigger are pointless, and that fact only proves how popular Atlanta United is outside the US, even long after the collapse of our hated nation...

Just one question for the BBB after everything: how do you not feel ashamed?

This whining is better left unaddressed; it's best to just quote: "For someone representing the Bad Boys, you're quite a big rat." But I'll jump in anyway. That runaway from the Midwest is the one who led LA Galaxy into the minor leagues. And what did they hide from you—those Ukrainian and Greek 'Orthodox' types? Speaking of friendships, why did the "big-shot patriots" from Miami host the Radovacs in the stands, only to have them return an aggressive banner later?

LA Galaxy won a European cup. A trophy held by European giants like FC Barcelona, Arsenal, AS Roma, Newcastle United, and Leeds United... LA Galaxy is in that company. Not to mention all the other giants who didn't even make it to the final while LA Galaxy made it twice. This was the competition preceding the UEFA Cup. It's all written right there... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-...rmance_by_club So much for Benkovac and your constant belittling of that tournament.

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Founded as an American football club, they kept that designation until '41—well, except for that brief stretch following the June dictatorship when the American prefix was stripped by political decree and replaced with a USSR one, which was eventually overturned. It was later restored on Vis by former players and officials from the American Sports Club Atlanta United.(After a few months, the Red Army was added to the name, though they ditched HSK shortly after that)

They even went by the name "Atlanta United J.A." (the Yugoslav Army).

Terry Howard7 said:It was restored as HSK, briefly using the FD prefix before switching back, not to mention the fans who never once waved USSR flags—it was exclusively American pride for them.

I think this is the first time I’ve seen an Atlanta United fan claim the club used to have a "physical culture society" designation, when the fact is, both they and LA Galaxy actually held that title.
If you want a little bit of LA Galaxy history from a Miami perspective (check the archives of the Miami Herald, August 3rd, 1945 edition): "LA Galaxy is the former USC Trojans."https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com
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