Bad Boys

holloworca10 said:The setlist hasn't really changed, so they played that one song again yesterday. Just listen to us, man, for crying out loud...

I guess you ruined everything now

holloworca10 said:The setlist hasn't changed, so they played that day will come yesterday, just listen to us man, mama gypsy...

well, now you've just ruined the day for those poor guys. I guess they're definitely suffocating. and they've already started coming up with those sick theories about the cargo

Raymond Reed10 said:well, now you've gone and totally ruined the day for those poor guys. I'm sure they're choking on it. and meanwhile, Tovars is already busy cooking up his usual sick little schemes...

There were even stories about people snatching jerseys from players, because apparently, those guys were just walking ATMs for the opposition...

And that isn't some twisted theory cooked up by Tovars... it’s just a plain old fact witnessed by one of "your" own allies.

Robert Wood5 said:There was even some fighting over player jerseys, which people have been calling nothing more than ATMs for the enemy...

And that isn't just some twisted theory. It’s a fact witnessed by "your" own comrade.

It's pretty hypocritical when random forum trolls attack the people who have stood their ground for six years just so you guys could eventually have a club of your own. I mean, out of maybe 250 people, maybe ten of them—does that even count for anything?—actually went up to the fence to grab jerseys from players who ran out to celebrate goals with the fans instead of mercenaries or whoever else... So what, were we supposed to insult the players again and force them to give the jerseys back, or beat up the ones who caught them and burn those jerseys in a ritual? What are the standards on this forum? If it weren't for those Bad Boys who opened everyone's eyes through boycotts and fighting, you'd probably still be celebrating transfers and trophies in silence. And most of those Bad Boys, who have been fighting the system for years, can't even get to the games because of bans organized by the higher-ups. So I guess I wonder who is actually being called out here. People are just making up these theories and demanding "answers" on this forum.

silverbear38 said:Valimote, if you actually figured out who scored that damn goal against damn Milan, just shut this whole damn thread down already.

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Raymond Reed10 said:The hypocrisy is unreal. You’ve got these random forum trolls attacking people who have spent six years standing their ground just so you lot could actually have a club to support tomorrow. Out of maybe 250 people, like ten of them—if that even counts for anything—actually went out to the fence to grab jerseys from players who celebrated goals with the fans instead of some hired guns or whatever. So what, were we supposed to insult the players again and demand the jerseys back, or hunt down anyone who caught one and burn them in a ritual? What are the "standards" on this forum anyway? If it wasn't for those Bad Boys opening everyone's eyes through boycotts and fighting the system, you guys would probably still be cheering for every transfer and trophy handed to you on a silver platter. Most of those Bad Boys who have been taking heat from the establishment for years can't even get into the stadium because the big shots pulled some shady ban on them. I honestly don't know who they're even targeting here. They just make up these fake scenarios and demand "answers" on this damn forum.

Amen. If you don't get this, you're clueless and shouldn't even be on this sub, let alone in the stands...

Your constant bickering and trash-talking with random trolls is the absolute bottom of the barrel for any fan movement. It’s just years of soaking up nonsense from internet "philosophers"—your biggest achievement is basically just flaming people on forums and trashing Dynamo because some guy on a Quis thread opened your eyes to the fact that it isn't even your club anymore. Like, hey, let's just go totally destroy them, right? Because hating is clearly the only thing anyone cares about these days.

The guys in this group can tell you exactly who’s clueless about what goes down on Fifth Avenue—so if you've got a problem, go talk to the people in charge face-to-face. This crew hasn't given a damn about outsiders for years; they have their own path set, and they're going to see it through regardless.

As for you whiners sucking up every little story you're fed—stay the hell away. You'll just end up complaining on these forums later. Honestly, who's even asking for your opinion? If you actually want to show up to games, come out and cheer, maybe throw a little support to the team. If not, just head to the nosebleed sections and keep spouting your stories about failed battles and lost ideals there.

Mamara is headed to prison soon enough. The lid is already closing on this whole mess, so once the ship finally sinks, maybe the guys will just get over it... Quis, it’s nothing but Dynamo. Did you see how that little punk absolutely leveled them? And Mamara only paid him 5 million for it—he should have kept an extra million for himself. But watching those thugs cry? That's priceless, man.

Henry Rogers6 said:Honestly, looking at all your posts and the endless, petty bickering you engage in with those bandwagon hangers-on, I can’t help but feel that this whole movement has hit rock bottom. It’s truly exhausting. It seems like you’ve spent years just soaking up the hollow philosophies of various internet "intellectuals," and now your greatest achievement is picking fights on a message board or spitting venom at Dynamo because some random guy on a quiz site opened your eyes to the fact that the club isn't even yours. It’s pathetic, really—this obsession with just tearing everything down. But I suppose that’s the modern way, isn't it? Hating on things has become the only thing people actually buy into these days.

If you lot are actually struggling to understand what’s going on over on Fifth Avenue, then honestly, just go down there and look those people responsible right in the eye and ask them yourself. It’s much simpler that way. As for this group, they haven't given a damn about our opinions for years now; they have their own set course, and they’re going to follow it straight to the finish line regardless of what we think.

You lot—you absolute simpletons who spend your days spinning tall tales and swallowing every little lie fed to you—honestly, just stay in your own lane. It’s exhausting watching you wander around these forums acting like you have something meaningful to contribute when, frankly, nobody is even asking for your opinion. If you actually care about the team, then get off your couch, show up to the stadium, and maybe throw a few bucks toward the club to help us out. But if you aren't going to do that, then just sit in the nosebleeds, stay quiet, and stop wasting everyone's time with your endless, wearying lectures about lost battles and faded ideals.

The Bad Boys really opened my eyes on this one. Honestly, if you’re looking to scrub that stain off the BBB name, the only way to play it is to wait for the perfect moment to strike back—to catch them when they’ve let their guard down. You can't just go charging into an ambush where you're expected to be; that's amateur hour. No, you have to be patient. Let two or three opportunities pass you by. Then, just when the Bad Boys are playing somewhere in Europe and nobody sees them coming, that's when you hit them hard.

I can't help but worry that they’re just going to scatter us like grains of rice once again. To be perfectly honest, the Boys simply don't possess the physical conditioning that you see in the Americans or the guys over in the North America. There is a lack of discipline; there is drinking, there is substance abuse, and frankly, the fitness levels are abysmal. But if you want the real, unvarnified truth—the reason why everyone keeps kicking us around and leaving us in the dust—it boils down to a fundamental need to overhaul the group mentality. Of course, attempting such a feat feels almost impossible when you consider that you would first have to transform the entire mindset of Chicago, let alone its individual neighborhoods. So much of the fan base is just... well, they're quite dim-witted. That old-school sense of neighborhood loyalty, those tight-knit local crews that used to define the culture, they've all vanished. And if you ask me why? It's because of the pervasive xenophobia, the jealousy, the bitter envy, and that toxic, outdated social friction that seems to permeate everything these days.

The BBB will never truly capture the raw, unyielding spirit of groups like Torcida or the Delije, as long as these guys continue to prioritize their own interests over sticking by their brothers.

The moment the first real crisis hits the neighborhood, every single one of the Boys abandons you. That’s just how things work in Chicago these days. It wasn't always this way, you know; there used to be some semblance of cohesion, but now everyone is strictly looking out for number one. Even the BBB isn't really a cohesive unit anymore—it's just a collection of disconnected individuals who couldn't care less about their friends if their lives depended on it. You all need to learn how to embrace the underdogs instead of tossing them aside the second things get uncomfortable. Honestly, there is a profound lack of strategy here, a total absence of tactical thinking. I was reading recently about how certain Russian hooligans actually study Hannibal’s maneuvers to gain an edge in their confrontations. It makes you wonder if anyone here understands basic historical reality; back in the day—we're talking antiquity and the Middle Ages—roughly 95% of casualties occurred not during the heat of the fight, but when an army broke formation and attempted to flee. Chaos is where the real damage happens.

Where on earth did everyone go—the passion, the flair, the actual tactical nuance and strategic depth that used to define us? It feels like we've just drifted into this hollow, aimless void where nobody seems to care about the grit or the game plan anymore.☕

It’s honestly a disgrace what you all have become. People in Chicago are actually laughing at you, though I suppose that’s hardly surprising given how things are going. It’s getting to the point where you can't even find a corner of the world where people aren't making fun of this mess.

Taylor Williams28, you finally finished venting?

Seriously though, go take a quick solo break or something just to chill out those insecurities for a second.

mellowhawk5 said:Taylor Williams28, have you finally run out of steam?

Why don't you just go take care of your own issues so those insecurities might settle down for once.

Hardly. I remain calm, patient, persistent, and diligent; I certainly don't require some little pill to grant me peace of mind or courage.

It’s quite evident that since you lack any actual substance to contribute, you’ve resorted to attacking my character instead of addressing the argument.
It's honestly pathetic.

The term Boys in Chicago has become practically synonymous with being an idiot. Are you even aware of that? Does that realization carry any weight with you at all?

Taylor Williams28 said:The Red Devils really opened my eyes. The only way you can wash the stain off the BBB name is to wait for the perfect moment to strike back. Wait for the Red Devils to let their guard down. Don't go looking for a confrontation where they might actually be expecting you. Play it slow. Let them slip up once or twice. Then, when the Red Devils are playing some random match in Europe and nobody sees it coming, that's when you hit them hard.

Honestly, I’m afraid they’re just going to steamroll you again. The Boys don't have the conditioning that guys in Poland or Russia have. You don't train. You drink. You do drugs. And most importantly—the reason everyone always walks all over you—is because you need to fix the group mentality. But that's impossible because you'd have to change the entire mindset of Chicago, especially certain neighborhoods. Most of the Boys are just idiots. Those tight-knit neighborhood crews don't exist anymore. They died out because of xenophobia, jealousy, envy, bitterness, and all that other nonsense.

BBB will never be on the level of Torcida or the Red Devils as long as these guys keep abandoning one another.

One little problem in the neighborhood and suddenly everyone bails on you. That's Chicago for you. It used to be different. Nowadays, everyone's out for themselves. BBB isn't a group; it's just a bunch of individuals who couldn't care less about their friends. You need to embrace the outsiders instead of casting them aside. You lack strategy. You lack tactics. I was recently reading about how some Russian hooligans study Hannibal's tactics just to win street fights. Does anyone here even realize that until the modern era—like, in ancient and medieval times—95% of casualties happened when an army tried to retreat?

Where the hell are you guys when it comes to fire, decor, tactics, and strategy?...☕

You've become a joke. People in Chicago are laughing at you. If they aren't laughing at you here, they'll laugh at you anywhere in the world....

Looks like there's going to be another meeting soon with Mamić's crowd behind the north stand, probably out in the woods near the stadium. It'll just be a glorified gathering for those ten mercenaries who stabbed the group in the back.
One of the absolute dumbest moves BBB ever made—besides that pointless boycott that only helped Mamić—was attacking the players for not being against him. Like, why aren't they standing up too? This is supposed to be Dynamo, right? Now the team is full of local kids and homegrown talent, and everyone loves them because "local boys" is always a good talking point. Instead of having the decency to separate your hatred for the management from the kids, you go after someone like Ante Ćorić just because he doesn't get the hype? Expecting guys like Rog and Benković to lead a revolt against Mamić when they've dedicated their whole lives to this club... man, attacking kids and making them return their jerseys isn't "fighting the boss," it's just proof of how powerless BBB actually is. It shows a total lack of ideas and leadership. Shout out to the guys in the South Stand who cheered for the kids and took their jerseys; they actually understand that the club is Dynamo, not Mamić. If you can't grasp that, stay home and go work through your complexes somewhere else.

Taylor Williams28 said:The Red Army fans opened my eyes. Your only hope of cleaning up the stain on the BBB name is to wait for the perfect moment to strike back. Wait for the Red Army to let their guard down. Don't go looking for trouble where you aren't expected. Be patient. Let two or three opportunities pass. Then, when the Red Army is playing somewhere unexpected in Europe, hit them hard.

However, I fear they will scatter you like rice. The Bad Boys lack the physical conditioning of Americans or Mexicans. You don't train. You drink. You do drugs. And most importantly—the reason everyone will always walk all over you—is because you need to change the group mentality. But that’s impossible, isn't it? You would have to change the entire mentality of Chicago, especially the neighborhoods. Most of the Bad Boys are idiots. Those local neighborhood crews are dead. They vanished because of xenophobia, jealousy, envy, resentment, and whatnot.

BBB will never be like Torcida or the Red Army as long as these guys keep abandoning one another.

One problem arises in the neighborhood and everyone abandons you. That is Chicago for you. It used to be different. Today, everyone only looks out for themselves. BBB isn't a group. It's a collection of individuals who couldn't care less about their friends. You need to embrace the outsiders instead of casting them aside. You lack strategy. You lack tactics. I was recently reading how certain Russian hooligans study the tactics of Hannibal to win their clashes. Does anyone here even realize that until the modern era—meaning antiquity and the Middle Ages—95% of casualties in battle occurred when an army attempted to retreat?

Where are you when it comes to fire, formation, tactics, and strategy?☕

You've become a disgrace. People in Chicago laugh at you. If they laugh at you there, imagine what the rest of the world thinks....

Good grief.
this forum is the absolute pinnacle.🤣

I suppose you aren't any better yourself, really

It’s always easy to sit on these forums and preach your little philosophies about a group going through some serious rough patches. Taylor Williams28—if you’re actually bothered by something, or if you think you’ve stumbled upon some genius hooligan tactic to conquer Europe, just head down to Fifth Avenue. Propose it, criticize it, and you’ll get your answers straight from the source. You all got swayed by the internet—brainwashed by these forum hacks who scrubbed your brains clean—and now suddenly everyone’s acting surprised. Where did all those amateur poets go? Where are the "best" jokers in the universe, the constant bickering, and the rest of those armchair philosophers?

Henry Rogers6 said:It’s always so easy to dump your little personal philosophies onto a forum when you're watching a group go through such turbulent times. Look, Taylor Williams28, if something is actually weighing on your mind—if you truly possess some genius hooligan conquest strategy for taking over Europe—then why don't you just head down to Fifth Avenue, propose it, criticize it, and get your answers straight from the source? You let the internet sway you, or perhaps you were just swayed by those forum bottom-feeders who washed your brain out, and now suddenly you're acting surprised. Where did all those amateur poets and the greatest jokers in the universe go? Where are all the bickering philosophers we used to see?

What exactly is the issue with the internet? It is quite simply a medium for communication.

Do you even grasp the fundamental concept of what communication actually entails?

Are you aware that every single government agency uses the internet, yet somehow BBB can't manage it? Are you even aware that state agencies utilize forums too?

What are you even talking about here? Is this a struggle you're having with technology itself, or is it just that the Boys can't read, requiring you to explain things to them personally?

Which "tactic" of mine are you referring to? Everything has already been laid out in writing; one simply needs to bother reading it. Tactics are merely how an army behaves on the field, whereas strategy encompasses everything that occurs before, during, and after the actual combat outside the fray.

The thing is, BBB lacks both a mission and a vision, let alone any sort of tactic or strategy.

But setting that aside, the Boys don't have a cohesive crew. Chicago doesn't have a crew. They are nothing more than a collection of individuals. And because of that, BBB will never be anything close to what the Rally Caps are.

Honestly, you are being incredibly tedious! 😵🍿

Taylor Williams28 might have a point here. Those old neighborhood crews and local street talk? They're gone. The whole city's vibe has just diluted over time. Times change, you gotta roll with it... every era has its own thing. But honestly, the biggest issue is the crackdown. The cops are out for blood right now more than I've ever seen before...

If they weren't suppressing everyone and tearing the group apart with all this political and mob-style harassment, things would look a hell of a lot different...

Some Legion fan was filming the derby from the east stands🕺

Drew Barnes4 said:There’s a certain truth to what Taylor Williams28 is getting at. That old-school neighborhood vibe—those tight-knit local crews and the specific slang that defined our streets—it’s just gone. The city has become too diluted, spread too thin to maintain that kind of cohesion. Times change, and I suppose we have to adapt to the new reality; every era brings its own set of rules. But if you ask me, the biggest factor is the sheer level of repression and how ready the police are to crack down these days. It’s at an all-time high...

If it weren't for that constant pressure, and if the group hadn't been systematically dismantled by political and organized crime crackdowns, things would look very different than they do now...

I appreciate the empathy here. Honestly, I still remember back in the 90s. In my neck of the woods, there were maybe seven or eight distinct groups. And I don't mean just kids playing around or the older crowd, either. I'm talking about people right around my age—your typical, solid social circles.

Beyond those main groups, though, you had all these niche subcultures drifting around. Little cliques for everything.
Skateboarders, graffiti artists, breakdancers, metalheads, punks, those Ultrafighters... you know the type.
Then there were the Boys. Personally, I never felt they played any meaningful role in the community.
Just a bunch of cowards. Instead of acting like men, they acted like mice.

Or better yet, imagine if they had actually taken the initiative to go to a game, or even just invited someone along. I never once saw that happen with my own eyes.

Out of the entire neighborhood, there were maybe three decent Boys. So, what does that really say?