Best protein powders for muscle gain?

What kind of logic is that? Saying it works better for a 20-year-old than a 15-year-old...
The fundamental point you’re clearly missing—or just ignoring—is biological development! You're sixteen and a half; your body isn't even remotely as developed as someone who is 20 or 25 years old.
In the link I sent you, it explicitly states which products bodybuilding.com recommends specifically for the teen demographic. It clearly says that you can take aminos in any form, whether they be tablets or liquid.
Find someone who can design a training program tailored to your specific age and current fitness level. Alternatively, if you have the drive, just walk into a local gym in your city; I'm sure they'd be happy to guide you through a routine and perhaps give you some advice on supplements. In my opinion, that's your best bet if you're planning on taking training seriously. But if you're just doing this casually... stick to the basic compound lifts and you'll still end up looking better than everyone else your age.

boldtinker12 said:What kind of sentence is that? Saying it works better for a 20-year-old than a 15-year-old...
The fundamental concept you’re clearly missing or ignoring here is biological development. At 16 and a half, your body isn't even remotely as developed as someone who is 20 or 25.
On the link I provided, it explicitly states which products bodybuilding.com recommends for the teen demographic. It clearly mentions that you can take aminos in any form, whether tablets or liquid.
Find someone to design a training program suited to your age and current physical state; alternatively, if you have the drive, just walk into a local gym in your city, and I suspect they'll be happy to point you in the right direction regarding both training and potential supplements. In my view, that's the best route if you're actually serious about this; if it's just a passing interest... stick to the basic compound movements and you'll look better than most kids your age.

My bad, I phrased that poorly; sorry, that's the clarification I needed to provide.😉
I'm telling you that I haven't come across a study regarding metabolism and creatine yet, but since you claimed they exist, please send me a link if you have one, as I'd actually like to read it.
I put my training and nutrition plan together myself using help from this forum and a few other sites.
Right now I'm running a TBT program from CW, and after that, I'm thinking of moving to 5x5 or OVT.
Back in my hometown, there was only one single gym/fitness center.
If I can afford it—since this isn't exactly a cheap hobby—I'll start taking this more seriously.

Honestly, I think you should just wait until you’ve officially moved out to deal with BB—mostly because if you stay under the same roof, the parents start breathing down your neck, worrying you're going to drop dead from eating too much protein.

goldenfox24 said:You really should only deal with the whole bodybuilding thing once you've moved out, because the older generation will just nag you about dying from too much protein.

My grandmother never gave me any grief about passing away from protein intake; she isn't some uneducated farm girl who doesn't grasp that protein is a fundamental building block of the body that I’m already getting from steak, eggs, and cheese anyway.🙄
The only thing I ever had to explain to her was that whey comes from milk whey. That was plenty for her to wrap her head around.

Patrick Chase11 said:My grandma doesn't give me any grief about dying from too much protein—she isn't some old-fashioned lady who's out of touch with how things work; she knows they're just basic building blocks for the body, and honestly, I'm getting them anyway from my steak, eggs, cheese, and all that good stuff. 🙄
The only thing I actually had to explain was that whey comes from milk whey. That pretty much settled it for her.

Man, you're lucky. Just imagine dealing with my mother—she’s an MD, and suddenly anything she didn't study back in the States is considered "wrong" or pseudoscience 🤣. And don't even get me started on the neighbors! We were having coffee the other day, chatting about the gym, and this woman pipes up saying proteins are useless because her brother went to the gym and used them, and it didn't help him. Well, when I asked how long he actually trained? She said, "Oh, about a month." 👍 So, yeah—when you have a parent like mine, it’s nearly impossible to make progress because you just don't have that core support, which is really what matters most.

goldenfox24 said:Man, you got it easy. Just imagine my wife. She’s a doctor, and suddenly everything she didn't study back in the States is total garbages supposed to be useless. 🤣And don't even get me started on this neighbor. We were grabbing coffee and talking about the gym, and she goes, "Proteins are a scam." Why? Because her brother tried them once and they didn't work. I asked how long he actually trained, and she said, "One month." 👍 Seriously, when you have a spouse like mine, it's impossible to get anything done because I just don't have any support from the one person who matters most.

You're probably too young to remember this, but I still recall that huge scandal where Peter Steel was stuffing his protein powders with flour and some other cheap fillers he made himself. One of those specific brands of his... 🤣

stormyheron4 said:You're probably a bit too young to remember this one—it feels like a lifetime ago—but I still vividly recall that massive scandal where Peter Steel was caught padding his protein powders with cheap flour and all sorts of unlisted, homemade fillers... specifically one of his protein lines 🤣

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There might be more than one rabbit in that bush, if you catch my drift 😲

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I’ll see if I can dig up the specific article, but here is the bottom line: creatine metabolism involves the kidneys, muscles, liver, and the pancreas. At 16 years old, those organs just aren't fully developed the way they are at 25. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the discussion.

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You're just being negative!

boldtinker12 said:@Patrick Chase11/">@@Patrick Chase11

I’ll see if I can dig up the actual article—it’s hard to find things sometimes—but the bottom line is this: creatine metabolism happens across the kidneys, muscles, liver, and pancreas. Now, when you're sixteen, those systems just aren't quite as fully developed as they are when you hit twenty-five. That's my take on it, anyway—end of story.

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You're just being cynical!

feeling pretty down lately

boldtinker12 said:@Patrick Chase11/">@@Patrick Chase11

I’ll dig around for the specific article, but the core reality remains the same: creatine metabolism involves the kidneys, muscles, liver, and pancreas. A sixteen-year-old's body isn't operating with the same physiological maturity as a twenty-five-year-old's. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the discussion.

You’d almost think a twelve-year-old girl hadn't hit her stride yet, but then you look at my neighbor and realize some people just skip the awkward stages entirely. 😁

If you manage to track that down, just shoot me a DM. 😉

goldenfox24 said:I'm feeling pretty low lately.

Go grab yourself a shot of bourbon.

Just moving my previous thoughts over here... I'm looking to pick up some whey protein, but I'm honestly torn on which one to go with. I see this Impact Whey Protein popping up everywhere http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...-whey-protein/
...some people are insisting I should stick strictly to Optimum Nutrition or Isobolic and that everything else is just straight garbage, while others—and I tend to agree with them—say there isn't much of a real difference. I mean, let's be real, smaller brands probably just buy from the big guys anyway and resell it cheaper...

Are you actually thinking about ordering them from the USA? I wonder what the total damage would be once everything lands. You already have high-quality $57 pounds of whey right here in America, which is
enough.

Patrick Chase11 said:Are you thinking about ordering them from the USA? What's the damage once you factor everything in? Because you can just get decent quality whey right here in the States for $57 bucks per kilo.

Nah, he's basically our supplier, we just still owe him a bit of cash. He's an American too.

Matthew Miller38 said:No, he’s actually sourcing them; we just still owe him a bit more money. He’s an American through and through, too.

Ah... I know the guy...
Just run the numbers and see which option actually makes sense for you, then go with that.

Patrick Chase11 said:Are you actually planning on ordering them from the USA? What’s the total damage going to be once everything lands? You can grab some high-quality whey right here in the States for just about $57 per kilo, and it's top-tier stuff.

If you bulk up the order to more than 7 kilos, the price per kilo drops down to $45

stormyheron4 said:if you order more than about 15 pounds, the price per pound drops down to $45

+ if you're part of a club, you get another 10% off, right?

Patrick Chase11 said:+ if you have a membership, it’s another 10% off, right?

Nah, even with the membership, it's more than 7 pounds per $45 kilo. The membership is an annual thing $67 but within those $67 they throw in a free pound of whey. Plus, if your order goes over $333 then they cover the shipping, and you just pay cash on delivery. If you're grabbing 7 kilos plus that extra one you get from signing up, just grab a few buddies and split the costs (and the whey 😁 too). Honestly, it's a total steal.

stormyheron4 said:Nah, once you factor in the membership fee, we're looking at more than a 15-pound difference. $45 A thousand bucks—that’s what they’re asking for the annual membership fee. $67 But even in those cases... $67 They’ll toss you a free kilo of whey just for showing up, especially if your order clears. $333 They handle the shipping costs themselves, paying cash on delivery when it arrives. If you think eight kilos—counting that extra one you get from signing up—is too much weight to manage, just grab a few friends and split the shipping fees. And obviously, don't forget the whey. 😁For the most part, it’s hardly worth the effort.

God, I need to get my act together and actually confront someone about this eventually.

Should I just go ahead and grab the 5kg bag of pure Optimuvov protein for about $120?

goldenfox24 said:or just drop $120 on a 5kg tub of pure Optimuvov protein

The thing is, you need to have $120 burning a hole in your pocket all at once...
I'm broke as hell right now, and I've still got enough whey left for maybe two or three more workouts. If I hadn't been such an idiot and bought that Dymatize stuff for $83, I could've probably scored an extra two pounds for just $17 more...