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Rebecca Smith4 Rebecca Smith4 Active Member
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#821 ·
Sean Price6 said:When he mentioned the Ultimate Fight, I assume he was talking about going pro, 🙂

Personally, I’d argue that 17 is actually the sweet spot if you want to take things seriously but haven't picked up a martial art yet.

Just a heads-up: if you’re looking at this from a professional standpoint, you’re going to need an insane amount of willpower. You’ll start out all hyped up and ready to go, but after a few months of grueling, soul-crushing training, most people just quit—unless, of course, you can survive that initial hump, because once you get past that, it actually gets a lot easier.

Instead of jumping straight into the deep end with something like the Ultimate Fight, I’d suggest picking one specific discipline first—maybe boxing, kickboxing, Judo, or Jiu-Jitsu—and really trying to master it. Then, if you still find yourself craving that Ultimate Fight chaos after that, you can try adding another discipline into the mix.

I tend to agree. There is some sort of threshold—maybe a bit earlier for some, much later for others 😬—where a person begins to take things more seriously and approaches life differently.

Sean Price6 said:When he mentioned the Ultimate Fight, I assume he was talking about going pro, 🙂

Personally, I’d argue that 17 is actually the sweet spot if you want to take things seriously but haven't picked up a martial art yet.

Just a heads-up: if you’re looking at this from a professional standpoint, you’re going to need an insane amount of willpower. You’ll start out all hyped up and ready to go, but after a few months of grueling, soul-crushing training, most people just quit—unless, of course, you can survive that initial hump, because once you get past that, it actually gets a lot easier.

Instead of jumping straight into the deep end with something like the Ultimate Fight, I’d suggest picking one specific discipline first—maybe boxing, kickboxing, Judo, or Jiu-Jitsu—and really trying to master it. Then, if you still find yourself craving that Ultimate Fight chaos after that, you can try adding another discipline into the mix.


It probably depends on the individual.
It takes a certain amount of time for both the mind and body to reach a state where they can absorb new techniques relatively quickly, endure several hours of intense training, and not feel completely overwhelmed by it all.

MMA is quite complex. There is a lot to consider...
Perhaps it is wise to start with a single component so you don't get discouraged before you've even truly begun.
Everything ultimately rests on the person and the specific gym they choose to join.

Someone actually involved in the sport will likely be able to give you better advice once you connect with them.
brisktiger30 brisktiger30 Newcomer
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#822 ·
My sincerest thanks to everyone for all the responses provided here...

I am honestly quite uncertain if this carries any significant weight, but looking back, I spent about 10 to 15 years training in Tae Kwon Do, and I even spent a few months practicing wrestling back then; since those days, nearly three years have passed since I last stepped onto the mat...

And yes, from what I’ve gathered through my observations at the club, they seem to have several different instructors on staff, and it appears that each one focuses their training on a completely different Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu technique or style...
Sean Price6 Sean Price6 Newcomer
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#823 ·
Look, I don't know how much actual sparring experience you have under your belt, and honestly, that’s the only metric that really matters here. It doesn't matter if you've been training for ten years if you can't actually apply any of it when someone is trying to hit you back, right?

Since you're only 17, my advice is to focus your energy right now on something more technical—think Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, or BJJ—and use this time to build up a solid foundation of conditioning and technical skill.

Once you've put in a year or two of that, then you can start pivoting toward disciplines that lean more heavily into raw strength, or even hitting the weight room, just so you aren't putting too much strain on your body while you're still growing.

At the end of the day, everything depends on how serious you actually want to be about this. If you're truly fired up and ready to commit, just find a local gym and go talk to a coach; I mean, don't you think you'll get way more useful, detailed information from a pro in person than you ever will from some random guy on an internet forum?
A Anonymous Veteran
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#824 ·
Hey everyone.

I saw the title of this thread and figured I’d drop my question here.
I’m 24, standing at 5'6" and weighing about 158 lbs, and I want to get into some kind of martial art. I know some people might say starting at 24 is a bit late, but I’m looking to do this recreationally at first—we'll see how much drive I actually have once I get moving.
Right now, I’ve been hitting the gym for about three years, though I've had a few breaks along the way.

To be clear, I'm not looking for anything high-impact or aggressive. I don't want a sport where the main goal is to strike, smash, or injure someone. I'm more interested in competitive sports focused on control—where the idea is to neutralize an opponent or transition them into a specific position.

There are two paths I'm currently weighing: Judo or some form of wrestling (like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or one of the other grappling disciplines).

I would really value your thoughts and any advice you can give me.

Cheers,
Rebecca Smith4 Rebecca Smith4 Active Member
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#825 ·
Anonymous said:Hey everyone.

I saw the title of this thread and figured I’d drop my question here.
I’m 24, standing at 5'6" and weighing about 158 lbs, and I want to get into some kind of martial art. I know some people might say starting at 24 is a bit late, but I’m looking to do this recreationally at first—we'll see how much drive I actually have once I get moving.
Right now, I’ve been hitting the gym for about three years, though I've had a few breaks along the way.

To be clear, I'm not looking for anything high-impact or aggressive. I don't want a sport where the main goal is to strike, smash, or injure someone. I'm more interested in competitive sports focused on control—where the idea is to neutralize an opponent or transition them into a specific position.

There are two paths I'm currently weighing: Judo or some form of wrestling (like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or one of the other grappling disciplines).

I would really value your thoughts and any advice you can give me.

Cheers,

It isn't too late. I don't see why it would be.
I suppose people get the impression—the same one I had before I started training—that they're too old because they constantly see fifteen-year-olds winning medals in Karate or Taekwondo. It creates this idea that everyone trains from childhood, so you won't fit in. That isn't quite the case for more serious combat sports.
For the more intense disciplines, that's just not true.

For BJJ, I could recommend www.subos.hr (you don't need to be a college student to train there). I know the crew is solid, and they have great results, which I guess means they're doing something right.
Low dues, good people, and they have sessions almost every day...
Most beginners are usually students, so I imagine you'll fit right in.
👍

Someone else will probably weigh in on the rest.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#826 ·
Rebecca Smith4 said:It isn't too late. I don't see why it would be.
I suppose people get the impression—the same one I had before I started training—that they're too old because they constantly see fifteen-year-olds winning medals in Karate or Taekwondo. It creates this idea that everyone trains from childhood, so you won't fit in. That isn't quite the case for more serious combat sports.
For the more intense disciplines, that's just not true.

For BJJ, I could recommend www.subos.hr (you don't need to be a college student to train there). I know the crew is solid, and they have great results, which I guess means they're doing something right.
Low dues, good people, and they have sessions almost every day...
Most beginners are usually students, so I imagine you'll fit right in.
👍

Someone else will probably weigh in on the rest.

Thanks, I've actually looked into Subos before and even saw their flyer over at the engineering building, but I wasn't sure if the sessions in the West End were just a substitute for PE class or an actual club you could join to supplement your gym time (since I am a student at MIT, true, and almost finished with my degree).
Rebecca Smith4 Rebecca Smith4 Active Member
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#827 ·
Anonymous said:Thanks, I've actually looked into Subos before and even saw their flyer over at the engineering building, but I wasn't sure if the sessions in the West End were just a substitute for PE class or an actual club you could join to supplement your gym time (since I am a student at MIT, true, and almost finished with my degree).

It's a club. And maybe, as a bonus, they waive your PE requirements.
Besides, it isn't far if you're already in the area.
Less drama, more discipline, I suppose.
😬
Peter Reyes Peter Reyes Newcomer
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#828 ·
I honestly have zero interest in combat sports. If I were you, I might just chuck an ice cube at you from the third floor.
mistyseal45 mistyseal45 Newcomer
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#829 ·
Man, I’d love to know when the next Ultimate Fight tournament is happening in a major US city—maybe somewhere like Vegas or LA—so I can grab my buddies and head out to watch.
Hey, does anyone know if there's a website that lists when the Ultimate Fight tournaments are happening over in Vegas?
wanderingridge wanderingridge Member
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#830 ·
mistyseal45 said:Man, I’d love to know when the next Ultimate Fight tournament is happening in a major US city—maybe somewhere like Vegas or LA—so I can grab my buddies and head out to watch.
Hey, does anyone know if there's a website that lists when the Ultimate Fight tournaments are happening over in Vegas?

http://forum.ultimate-fight.com
mistyseal45 mistyseal45 Newcomer
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#831 ·
thanks, wanderingridge
Jack Torres3 Jack Torres3 Newcomer
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#832 ·
Hey everyone.

I was wondering if anyone might happen to know of a Wing Chun club located over in Koprivnica? If you do, I’d really appreciate it if you could share the location. I’m currently training down in the city, but since I'll be back home for the summer, I suppose I’d love to keep up with my practice there while I can.

Thanks so much.
hiddensailor14 hiddensailor14 Active Member
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#833 ·
Jack Torres3 said:Hey everyone.

I was wondering if anyone might happen to know of a Wing Chun club located over in Koprivnica? If you do, I’d really appreciate it if you could share the location. I’m currently training down in the city, but since I'll be back home for the summer, I suppose I’d love to keep up with my practice there while I can.

Thanks so much.

Nothing there. Your best bet would be checking out places in Varaždin or maybe heading toward Sandusky... how far of a drive is that for you?
Jack Torres3 Jack Torres3 Newcomer
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#834 ·
hiddensailor14 said:Nothing there. Your best bet would be checking out places in Varaždin or maybe heading toward Sandusky... how far of a drive is that for you?

I guess not at all😢. To be honest, my only real way to get around is by bike—plus walking, obviously—and I’m afraid that paying for a bus or a train ride out to Indy or Columbus every other day might end up being a bit much for me. It’s a shame, really. I suppose I’ll just try to focus on working independently, and if that doesn't pan out, I can at least put my energy into maintenance work, or maybe just focus on building up my physical fitness🙂.

Thanks!
hiddensailor14 hiddensailor14 Active Member
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#835 ·
Jack Torres3 said:I guess not at all😢. To be honest, my only real way to get around is by bike—plus walking, obviously—and I’m afraid that paying for a bus or a train ride out to Indy or Columbus every other day might end up being a bit much for me. It’s a shame, really. I suppose I’ll just try to focus on working independently, and if that doesn't pan out, I can at least put my energy into maintenance work, or maybe just focus on building up my physical fitness🙂.

Thanks!

http://www.profightstore.com/content...=Kung%20Fu
Maybe you could reach out to Beck or Repic; they might have students in the vicinity of the Midwest area, so you could squeeze in some training sessions over the summer...
Jack Torres3 Jack Torres3 Newcomer
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#836 ·
hiddensailor14 said:http://www.profightstore.com/content...=Kung%20Fu
Maybe you could reach out to Beck or Repic; they might have students in the vicinity of the Midwest area, so you could squeeze in some training sessions over the summer...

That seems like a pretty good idea, actually. I think I'll give them a call. Thanks!
Justin Watson58 Justin Watson58 Member
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#837 ·
Jack Torres3 said:Hey everyone.

I was wondering if anyone might happen to know of a Wing Chun club located over in Koprivnica? If you do, I’d really appreciate it if you could share the location. I’m currently training down in the city, but since I'll be back home for the summer, I suppose I’d love to keep up with my practice there while I can.

Thanks so much.

...and if you can't find one, my advice is just to drill the moves all summer long...once you get back to Chicago, it'll take you maybe a week or two at most to get back up to speed with the crew (if you catch my drift)...you aren't losing anything, and you'll actually have an edge...👍
Jack Torres3 Jack Torres3 Newcomer
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#838 ·
Justin Watson58 said:...and if you can't find one, my advice is just to drill the moves all summer long...once you get back to Chicago, it'll take you maybe a week or two at most to get back up to speed with the crew (if you catch my drift)...you aren't losing anything, and you'll actually have an edge...👍

Thanks for the helpful tip. I suppose I’m not too worried about falling behind since I’ve been training over in Naperville (on Saturdays)—as far as I know, they don't really hold sessions there when the university lectures are out of session. I guess I'm more concerned about potentially forgetting what I've picked up or just losing my rhythm. Hopefully, I can find someone to train with, but if not, I’ll probably just follow your suggestion 🙂.
Rebecca Smith4 Rebecca Smith4 Active Member
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#839 ·
Jack Torres3 said:Thanks for the helpful tip. I suppose I’m not too worried about falling behind since I’ve been training over in Naperville (on Saturdays)—as far as I know, they don't really hold sessions there when the university lectures are out of session. I guess I'm more concerned about potentially forgetting what I've picked up or just losing my rhythm. Hopefully, I can find someone to train with, but if not, I’ll probably just follow your suggestion 🙂.

I don't know much about those WC types, but I guess even Subos holds training sessions during the summer.
At least one friend from Dijon says he’s heading out before the summer hits.
It seems like there aren't many people around there, I guess.

Once fall rolls around, a new crop of first-years will show up, so you'll probably have to start everything from scratch for them. I'm not entirely sure how they'll structure it—maybe splitting things into two groups or something similar. It seems unlikely that you'll forget the ropes, but if you do find you need to brush up, I suppose it might take about a month to get back into the rhythm. That said, you should be able to work solo without much trouble.

I assume you're familiar with the first format.
Or at least part of it, I suppose. It hardly matters.
You could probably just design your own conditioning circuit. Go at your own pace, I suppose, though there’s no need to hold back. If Coach Anderson is still leading the conditioning portion, you likely already have a decent enough repertoire of exercises and drills in your toolkit. It shouldn't get boring, since you won't necessarily have to repeat the same routine every single time.
I suppose I could put a form together. Maybe a few times, if necessary. Reminiscent.)
Then you begin working through the elements in the exact order they appear in the form, I suppose.
You know I won't skip anything.
Maybe you should just go back and review all those drills you ran with them, along with some practical application and things like that.
Even when I'm working, I tend to be thorough. I guess you could say I do things properly.
Pay close attention to your elbow angle, your posture, and your speed.
If you aren't entirely certain about something—well, maybe it's better not to practice that specific part. You wouldn't want to accidentally program yourself incorrectly, I suppose.
If you happen to have any piranhas, just say the word.
It seems like there’s less and less left to say on this forum... I guess.

The only downside you might face is the boredom of drilling the same repetitive drills all summer long. There isn't much new to work with, I suppose. However, I imagine you'll be more than happy once you finally get back to your regular training sessions. It might be a good idea to occasionally link up with someone who has a bit more experience than you and perhaps throw in a four or five-hour session. It would help break things up. Monotony can be quite draining, really.
Jack Torres3 Jack Torres3 Newcomer
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#840 ·
Rebecca Smith4 said:I don't know much about those WC types, but I guess even Subos holds training sessions during the summer.
At least one friend from Dijon says he’s heading out before the summer hits.
It seems like there aren't many people around there, I guess.

Once fall rolls around, a new crop of first-years will show up, so you'll probably have to start everything from scratch for them. I'm not entirely sure how they'll structure it—maybe splitting things into two groups or something similar. It seems unlikely that you'll forget the ropes, but if you do find you need to brush up, I suppose it might take about a month to get back into the rhythm. That said, you should be able to work solo without much trouble.

I assume you're familiar with the first format.
Or at least part of it, I suppose. It hardly matters.
You could probably just design your own conditioning circuit. Go at your own pace, I suppose, though there’s no need to hold back. If Coach Anderson is still leading the conditioning portion, you likely already have a decent enough repertoire of exercises and drills in your toolkit. It shouldn't get boring, since you won't necessarily have to repeat the same routine every single time.
I suppose I could put a form together. Maybe a few times, if necessary. Reminiscent.)
Then you begin working through the elements in the exact order they appear in the form, I suppose.
You know I won't skip anything.
Maybe you should just go back and review all those drills you ran with them, along with some practical application and things like that.
Even when I'm working, I tend to be thorough. I guess you could say I do things properly.
Pay close attention to your elbow angle, your posture, and your speed.
If you aren't entirely certain about something—well, maybe it's better not to practice that specific part. You wouldn't want to accidentally program yourself incorrectly, I suppose.
If you happen to have any piranhas, just say the word.
It seems like there’s less and less left to say on this forum... I guess.

The only downside you might face is the boredom of drilling the same repetitive drills all summer long. There isn't much new to work with, I suppose. However, I imagine you'll be more than happy once you finally get back to your regular training sessions. It might be a good idea to occasionally link up with someone who has a bit more experience than you and perhaps throw in a four or five-hour session. It would help break things up. Monotony can be quite draining, really.

They told us something along the lines of "no instructor—no training." Though, I suppose it’s possible I might have misunderstood them.

...
If you feel uncertain about something somewhere, I guess it might be better not to practice at all, just so you don't accidentally program yourself with bad habits.
And if you happen to have any specific questions, just ask.
Anyway, it seems like there isn't much left to talk about on this forum these days...

That is actually what I am a bit worried about—practicing something incorrectly—because my experience suggests that once those habits set in, they can be incredibly difficult to fix. But if I run into anything I'm unsure of, I'll probably reach out and ask. I do have my initial form recorded in several different video formats, so I suppose that shouldn't be much of an issue.

edit: I guess the only real downside would be getting bored from drilling the exact same movements all summer since nothing new is happening, but I imagine you'll be more than happy once you get back to regular classes. It might be a good idea to occasionally find someone who knows a bit more than you do and maybe run a four or five-hour session together, just to break up the monotony. Monotony can really wear a person down.

I will try to find someone from the local academy who does wrestling so we can train together, assuming anyone happens to be interested. And in the worst-case scenario, I suppose it wouldn't be too much trouble to drive out to Chicago or Indianapolis a few times over the summer.

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