Good and bad vibes

Jamie Fowler2 said:How many "words" does Wing Chun actually have?

Countless! But there are just a few fundamental letters... and honestly, depending on how skilled the practitioner is, the number of "words" they can pull from those few letters changes entirely...☕

Did Baker actually go all in on this guy, or is he just messing with us?

George Martin70 said:Like I said, that guy Kevin 😈 teaches Bagua, so he might actually be able to use it in a fight. Have you seen his training sessions?

As you probably already know, you can't exactly just "watch" his training. But from the little bit I've heard and seen... it looks more like Mizongquan than Baguazhang.

I'm way more interested in the modern Jujutsu he's teaching.

ruggedfalcon2 said:countless! but there are just a few core characters; depending on how skilled the guy is, those few letters determine how many words he can pull from them...☕

uh, I meant letters.

Bruce, say it's got 7—press, grab, circle, embrace, drop, round, unify.

Jamie Fowler2 said:well, I meant the principles.

Bruce, for example, has seven—press, hook, circle, embrace, drop, round, unify.

about ten core principles ☕

ruggedfalcon2 said:Just ten basic letters... ☕

Can you drop the most common interpretations here? Or just hit me up in a DM if you're too shy to say it in public... 😉

Jamie Fowler2 said:Can you list the most common interpretations here? You can always shoot me a DM if you'd rather not post them publicly... 😉

I’ll be putting something up on my blog soon... I'm going through some emotional stuff right now. 😢 🤣 😬 I just don't have the energy for this... 👎 Women, women... who even came up with you? And then on top of that, you went and invented Wing Chun... 🙂 🤣 ☕

Larry King37 said:Did Baker actually lose to this guy, or is he just messing around?

No way Baker lost to some 5'5" Chinese guy. I mean, if Chinese guys were out there beating up Americans in downtown Chicago, we'd have bigger problems.🤣 The thing is, Baker invited him to the club to show off some Tai Chi, and they ended up sparring in Wing Chun. Honestly, the guy didn't stand a chance against Baker. Later on, the little dude was even bragging about how he was totally running circles around him in the gym.😬

George Martin70 said:Of course Baker didn't get wrecked by some 5'5" Chinese guy. Imagine if those guys were out there beating up Americans in downtown Chicago... 🤣 The point is, Baker invited this dude to the club to show off some Tai Chi, and then they ended up sparring in Wing Chun. Obviously, the guy was no match for Baker—later on, the little man was bragging about how he was basically tossing him around the gym all night. 😬

...and now that I've walked this guy off, I actually have the energy for this again 😬

I mean, how would Howard even do Wing Chun with anyone if he’s never actually trained it? What you're saying is like me asking you to try some Bruce drills right now, and then having some random person jump on this forum later calling you an idiot, a loser, and a total fraud who doesn't know anything...

ruggedfalcon2 said:I'll post something on my blog later... dealing with some heavy emotional stuff right now 😢 🤣 😬 so I've got zero motivation for anything 👎 women, man... who even came up with you people, let alone invented Wing Chun 🙂 🤣 ☕

Women, man... forget it.

Good luck getting back on your feet 👍

Jamie Fowler2 said:screw women.

Wishing you a speedy recovery... 👍

Man, I hate them, but the real trouble starts when I let them screw me instead 😠 🙄 ☕

Jamie Fowler2 said:you’re a long way from being able to quote David...

Why?
Isn't the quote appropriate?

Jamie Fowler2 said:Man, after taking a stroll around the block, I'm feeling pumped for this again 😬

I mean, I don't really see how Howard would even approach Wing Chun with anyone if he never actually trained in it... What you're saying is kind of like me asking you to run through some Bruce drills, and then having some random person jump on here to trash you, calling you clueless or a fraud who doesn't know what they're doing.

Everyone brings their own flavor to sparring... like, Baker uses his Wing Chun stuff, or Howard uses what he knows from Chen Tai Chi Chi Sao. Now, I bet you're gonna tell me: "Wait, Tai Chi doesn't even have Chi Sao!" 👍

Roger Smith6 said:Why?
Doesn't the quote fit?

Nah, because it’s about the whole nature of YI...

George Martin70 said:Everyone brings their own flavor to sparring... like how Baker sticks to his Wing Chun roots or Howard uses what he knows from Chen Tai Chi chi sao. And I know what you're gonna say—Tai Chi doesn't even have chi sao! 👍

Look, chi sao is a game. Tui shou is a game. Different games, different rules. You said it yourself—they weren't even sparring...

Wing Chun isn't sparring... it's just drilling, nothing more... everything else people try to turn these drills into is just killing the skill itself. Very few people actually grasp the essence behind many Wing Chun techniques, the drills, and all that. 😢 ☕

Alright, just so everyone's happy: they did some limited sparring—nothing full contact—focusing on sensitivity and redirecting force into thin air... 😠

George Martin70 said:Alright, let's make everyone happy here: they were doing limited sparring—nothing full contact—just working on sensitivity and redirecting force into thin air... 😠

So what was actually happening then? 🤣 🙏 At the end of the day, it looks like they were just fooling around, since someone was clearly trying to redirect "force" into nothingness without any actual contact 🙄 😁 ☕

ruggedfalcon2 said:so what was that even about? 🤣 🙏 at the end of the day, they were basically just grinding on each other—it's obvious one of them was throwing "force" into thin air without any actual contact 🙄 😁 ☕

😬 😬

was gonna say something similar, but I can't top that...

🙂

ruggedfalcon2 said:so what was the point then 🤣 🙏 looks like they were just fooling around since someone was clearly throwing "force" at nothing 🙄 😁 ☕

Basically, they weren't actually trying to hurt each other