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How much do we actually differ from trees?

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Participants Kenneth Lee16Harold Anderson3George Smith2darkwalker512Amanda Jackson6swiftcobra15Jonathan Brooks8steelridge58Hannah Thomas13William Reedmistyscout2rustygull12rustymaker5Harold Adams5Jacob Moore61silentgardener3Linda Moore4hiddensailor14Casey Jackson17rowdyridge402
Linda Moore4 Linda Moore4 Newcomer
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#21 ·
silentgardener3 said:That's tough, because as far as I know, plants don't have a nervous system, which is the whole basis for feeling things.

Check out the book *The Secret Life of Plants*.
Some scientists have actually managed to prove that plants feel things. They emit various signals or waves depending on the situation. For instance, when someone laughs, cries, or lies... they emit the exact same signal when the "liar" walks back into the room...
Kenneth Lee16 Kenneth Lee16 MemberOP
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#22 ·
Jonathan Brooks8 said:A man grows upward... much like a tree
he falls dead to the earth after stretching out... just like a tree
he springs from a seed... just like a tree
the womb is akin to... Mother Earth herself
he is bound to the soil... like a tree
sending down roots... in the same way
veins pulled straight from the root...
yielding fruit... and though we consume it differently, it serves as seed—even if the method varies
man is social, much like a tree—a forest council gathered in honor of the Sun God, where trees vie for who can catch more sunlight
lonely, like a single tree standing in an open field
trees embrace a man because it heals him
life within a man and life within a tree are one and the same

truth be told, there isn't much difference at all


Interesting stuff—beyond my pay grade.

I only noticed because I’ve got this "tree" of a neighbor behind my house—sitting on the patio, I started thinking... well, that might be my great-grandfather, haha.
hiddensailor14 hiddensailor14 Active Member
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#23 ·
steelridge58 said:The core idea remains the same. By just observing, you start drawing these conclusions and making comparisons, much like the way > so beautifully put it in his own post. The things we witness give us this profound insight that everything we are, and everything they are—like those trees out there—all stem from the exact same point of existence, a single origin where everything branches out, a point that reveals the fundamental principle of life itself.

As I find myself staring into that principle, I can't help but wonder where I might fail it, or if I could somehow cheat my way into something fundamentally different—perhaps something more meaningful, an extraordinary existence or purpose specifically assigned to me as a human being, rather than just being part of this cycle where the Earth eternally renews the spring just as it does with everything else in Nature.

We are all one, really, yet in our restless drive to uncover everything laid out before us within that singular, unspoken law of Nature—to realize that we are the root, the body, the seeds meant for propagation, and the very transience that sits so nakedly before our eyes in everything we gaze upon—we are actually completely different.

A tree doesn't have a gender, or rather, any dualities within it are merged into one, so it can't truly understand the kind of love humans know, where two people can become one while still remaining two distinct individuals joined by affection.

Beyond that, I can vividly imagine myself growing upward from the soil with my head reaching toward the clouds 🙂 while my feet take root deep into the sky. It makes me wonder, is that even possible? Is it perhaps the case that the actual order of things is entirely different from how we perceive it?

I just wanted to stir the pot a little bit😁 and correct a slight inaccuracy in that quote. There are actually plants and trees out there with separate sexes—dioecious species, to be technical. This means the male reproductive organs are on one plant while the female ones are on another. Take Ginkgo biloba, for example; it even produces motile sperm instead of just standard pollen...😎
Casey Jackson17 Casey Jackson17 Member
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#24 ·
Kenneth Lee16 said:It sheds its bark, loses hair... even leaks resin

But it still grows, right? It bears fruit... feeds itself... survives through spring, summer, and winter

So, I guess it gets some kind of organic orgasm feeling out of all those processes?

Well, the difference is it doesn't have organs, you know? No sight, no smell, no hearing, no taste... maybe touch, who knows... basically, if there wasn't a massive difference, we wouldn't even bother calling it a "tree"
rowdyridge402 rowdyridge402 Newcomer
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#25 ·
If we consider a tree as a primitive organism, it doesn't possess consciousness in any way we would recognize; rather, its entire existence is dictated by its genetic blueprint.
It functions essentially on a cause-and-effect basis, much like a pre-written software program, though I suppose it is somewhat distinguished by its capacity for change when triggered by external stimuli. For instance, we see how certain behaviors lead to genetic degradation—much like how chronic smoking impacts a person's DNA—or consider how certain populations might develop specific genetic resistances to extreme environments, similar to how some groups have evolved specialized traits to survive harsh northern climates.
A tree doesn't actually "think," if you follow my drift, but its genes effectively "do" the thinking for it. Once the winter frost finally breaks, the tree begins to sprout leaves because its genetic makeup perceives the rising temperatures, and isn't that essentially how all these biological phenomena unfold?
I’ve often wondered if the animal brain evolved precisely because creatures began to walk, swim, and navigate more complex movements—tasks where simple genetics simply weren't enough since genes lack the ability to rapidly absorb and process new information. Or perhaps that's just my own speculation...

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