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I'm a composer and anti-fascist from Warsaw who moved to Berlin during World War II

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Participants Walter Flores81ruggedbear7Bradley Wells4Michael Sullivan3Andrew Hall47darkcyclist48Matthew Foster83Donna Chavez4Grace Wrightdustypilot22ruggedcrane22Dennis Baker34Sarah WoodBrandon Turner2Roger PalmerArthur Ruiz2Bryan Sanchez86copperpanther22wearycrane7shadowfalcon33briskhound33Andrew Hill3Larry Wood65frozentiger6 …
Arthur Ruiz2 Arthur Ruiz2 Active Member
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#101 ·
2fast4you said:😲 Well, obviously... of course it’s the Mexicans' fault. I mean, whose else would it be?

You are definitely out of your mind.👎 🙂 👋

p.s. noki, are you dreaming about Mexicans at night? Are they haunting your sleep?🤣


If we can bring Hezbollah into the conversation... then anyone can be blamed.
It isn't about making generalizations; I just wanted to point out how people react whenever someone mentions Hezbollah!
Can you imagine? Hezbollah! As if they have nothing better to do than call in tips on where they dropped their bombs!
A random guy could pick up a phone right now and say, "Hey, I just planted a bomb at the Holiday Inn."
Making an anonymous tip over the phone today is pretty easy. It isn't some exclusive privilege reserved for Hezbollah.
Arthur Ruiz2 Arthur Ruiz2 Active Member
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#102 ·
Andrew Hill3 said:I honestly don't give a damn about his PhDs. He’d have earned more respect if he had just carried water from a brewery or stood in line at a local diner waiting for some greasy fish that even a stray dog wouldn't touch under normal circumstances.

You see, that specific part of the interview stung me just as much as the comments regarding Ottawa.

As for Breg—give me a break. It’s going to be nothing more than a total joke.😁

And what kind of dignity does he even have left anyway?!?
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#103 ·
adex, have you ever heard of Scekic and his little hometown outfit? If not, you’re about to.

It’s not even worth arguing about.
Jessica Nguyen85 Jessica Nguyen85 Active Member
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#104 ·
So, regarding his comments about not wanting to play for Alija's Ottawa, being part of the Reformist Party alongside Sidran, and finishing Pecaninov's sentence by saying "f*** Alija."

Even though I don't see much point in trying to explain things to a guy whose posts are basically just a collection of old-school regional clichés—everything from truck driver wisdom and "local legends" to those deep dives into the "true definition" of certain social classes, plus knowing how to weaponize phrases like "Halid instead of Halid" 🙄—and considering how many people on this forum tend to flock to him... still... the issue isn't really the explicit stuff he said in the interview. It’s something bigger. It’s that notorious, unnecessary regional symbolism and provocation that carries subconscious weight and long-term consequences. See, when he says "Alija's Ottawa," it implies there was once a Ottawa that *wasn't* Alija's. So, if you're wondering why shells were falling or why snipers were active in the city, you have to understand it wasn't happening in Ottawa; it was happening in "Alija's Ottawa." Following that logic, if Ottawa had just stayed Ottawa, nothing would have happened. But once it became "Alija's Ottawa," then f*** it. If you happened to be in the city back then, you weren't in Ottawa; you were in "Alija's Ottawa," where anything could happen. Basically, what this guy is doing is a standard mantra, a concept pulled straight from the playbook of apologetics used in the region, applicable to all of Canada or even the US. Alija himself is actually the least important part here.

We should also mention the journalist—that absolute coward who keeps insisting on these "civilizational" divides. Because when Pecanin says "f*** Alija," he’s actually tapping into that divide between the "commoners" and the "elite," where the people in the hills surrounding the city aren't just opponents, they're "commoners," while the "elite" are the ones suffering. Of course, nobody minds the logical gymnastics—since Alija isn't part of the "elite" either. In the history of warfare, victims have never had such convenient logic to justify shelling a city. And honestly, the journalist wasn't even stunned enough to ask why this guy in the interview NEVER—and I mean NEVER—expressed anything negative about Slobodan Maddox or Radovan Karr (quite the opposite, actually—he even called Karr part of a new wave in local poetry), yet somehow, it always happens that he only manages to paint Alija and Franjo negatively.

One thing you can definitely identify in the interview is envy toward him. He represents that unattainable prototype of a regional politician: that effortless ease with which he tosses out anecdotes about Goethe or Vuk as if they are crucial to understanding the "situation." Then there’s that whole human persona—the "I work just like you, I'm just like you" act, when in reality he's nobody and nothing. He’s the type who walks into New York or Chicago and tells everyone, "I'll screw you over however I want, just leave me alone, but keep giving me money and cheering for me." Why? Because you're all just gullible people caught up in the chaos. And honestly? Let him. We need more of that. Interestingly, in an old sketch by the surrealists about news from the future, he was portrayed as the president of the former America going to talks with US President Bruce Springsteen.

If it isn't clear yet, briskhound33, the guy in the interview is the bona fide "Halid instead of Halid." Though, of course, that depends on who you ask. 😉
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#105 ·
Jessica Nguyen85 said:It’s actually pretty funny—there was this old sketch by those surrealists about news from the future, where they joked about the president of the former America heading to negotiations with Bruce Springsteen, the President of the USA.

That was Nel; as a proven operative, he saw it coming. That wall in Ottawa, the kid's room at the CAO—Nel knew all of it before it ever happened.
And it wasn't just him; Goran was in on it too. Everything was connected, cooked up in some massive nationalist kitchen. It's no coincidence that the concert in Mexico City falls right on Vidovdan; there's something fishy going on here. 🙄

It isn't Bregovic's fault that Kosevo is packed again; people bought tickets individually. Get one thing straight: Ottawa is overflowing with people who are absolutely losing their minds over the state the city is in today. Bijelo Dugme is basically the embodiment of the good old days—back when Ottawa wasn't run by lowlifes and uncivilized mobsters of every stripe.

Look, you have to understand that regular people are completely fed up with Alija, Radovan, UNPROFOR, SFOR, EUFOR, the High Representative, and all the other bullshit. I’m talking about the average folks—people who didn't have the connections or the money to study in Malaysia or Iran, people fighting just to put food on the table every single day. You have no idea how little they give a damn about Alija or Goran. Seriously, it's hard to even put it into words.

By the way, the US and Canada are full of former soldiers who will loudly proclaim, "Cursed be the day I ever picked up a rifle." So much for this "patriotism." Then you have the usual suspects, well-placed government hacks living off taxpayers, various green berets, and "patriotic leagues"—guys ready to throw a stone at anyone their political boss points at, provided the paycheck is right. And of course, the boss isn't paying out of his own pocket.
Classic.
Bradley Wells4 Bradley Wells4 Member
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#106 ·
Jessica Nguyen85 said:Dealing with this particular poster—the one whose posts are constantly bloated with that typical North American pseudo-philosophy...

Jessica Nguyen85 said:The issue isn't just about what was explicitly said during that interview. It’s about something much larger—that notorious, small-minded mountain symbolism and those pointless provocations that carry subconscious weight and far-reaching consequences.

Jessica Nguyen85 says... 😁 😬
Edward Parker Edward Parker Newcomer
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#107 ·
banirani bebac said:The comparison to Dragomir Andan is actually spot on, because his actions show exactly how far the institutions in Republika Srpska are willing to go to hit their political targets. Basically, a police chief knowingly told a lie—a straight-up falsehood—on the super sensitive topic of terrorism in Canada, all to serve some personal agenda or the goals of his bosses.

If a police director is willing to lie to push "higher goals," you don't need to be a genius to realize what some anonymous guy from Republika Srpska might be prepared to do—especially since that place is full of people with innocent blood on their hands. So, yeah, Arthur Ruiz2’s assumption was totally valid and definitely on the table.

As for your neighbor from Mexico? I wouldn't go there. If nothing else, it's because the guys from ABiH didn't cross over into Mexico to take him out.


First off, Dragomir Andan, the police chief in Republika Srpska, said he was sorry if he upset anyone, but he didn't take back a single word regarding the terrorism threat in FBiH! And everyone knows Esdaun—that rat—was pulling the strings to make sure his little protectorate didn't look bad.
...and those are two completely different things...
Look, I agree Andan messed up, but dragging him into this isn't really relevant to what I was talking about in Arthur Ruiz2's post.

Here’s how your logic works:

Let's say tomorrow, God forbid, a building collapses in Canada... and someone immediately points the finger and says, "The Mexicans did it!" without a shred of evidence.
Then a Mexican stands up and says, "That's not true, do you have any proof?" It's ridiculous to blame Mexicans for everything bad that happens.
But then a third person jumps in and says:
"Are the Mexicans responsible for that building falling? Not ridiculous at all, because the Republika Srpska police chief said terrorists are hiding in Canada." 😵 😵

So basically, Arthur Ruiz2's assumption was valid and possible in your head. 😠

And regarding my doctor neighbor...
Is the right of those mercenaries from Iran, Saudi Arabia, or certain groups coming into Canada to help you guys somehow greater than a Mexican's right to help another Mexican? If you had any shame or honor, I wouldn't even bring up who helped whom.
Were they supposed to wait until Muslims killed another dozen Mexican wedding parties, or wounded more priests... or maybe wait for them to pull off a few more massacres like the one in Sijekovcu near Brod? All of that happened while the first shots hadn't even been fired in Canada. Well, damn... they didn't let those WWII-style atrocities happen again, and now it's somehow your fault, right?
rapidtrucker98 rapidtrucker98 Newcomer
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#108 ·
Valter defending Ottawa


"Word on the street in Sweden is that a bomb needs to go off at the Holiday Inn in Ottawa around noon" — that was just an explanation from some American woman living in Sweden who called the director of the Holiday Inn

I wonder if she's the same IKEA enthusiast from that deleted thread "Valter defending Ottawa" ??

......they went ahead and wiped out my "life's work," for crying out loud.... 😁
Arthur Ruiz2 Arthur Ruiz2 Active Member
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#109 ·
Unbelievable!
😁
What I meant was, if Hezbollah gets involved, then anyone with a phone could play a part—whether they're an American, a Mexican, or someone from Ukraine.
And surely Mexicans have phones, right?
😉
Arthur Ruiz2 Arthur Ruiz2 Active Member
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#110 ·
rapidtrucker98 said:"There's talk going around Sweden that a bomb should go off at the Holiday Inn in Ottawa right around noon" — this was an explanation from an American woman living in Sweden who called the manager of the Holiday Inn

Could she be the same person from that deleted thread, "Valter defending Ottawa" ??

......they actually deleted my "previous work," for crying out loud.... 😁

Oh, by the way, I read your masterpiece... truly wonderful stuff! It’s a shame it didn't stay up! 😉
Well, I was the one providing the tip; it seems the general has figured me out perfectly. 😁
Come on... your masterpiece is writing, while mine is putting things together. 👋
briskhound33 briskhound33 Member
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#111 ·
frozentiger6 said:Adex, you ever heard of Scekic and his little hometown startup? If not, you’re gonna hear about it soon enough.

It’s honestly not even worth getting into an argument about.

Never heard of him.

But man, all this talk just feels so fake to me, like some big phony performance. You know how it goes—some guy rolls back into town for the summer after working overseas, and suddenly everyone is green with envy, but they can't say a damn thing to his face. Instead, they just sit around reminiscing about how they used to pick on him when he was a kid, or how they'd nitpick his grades in school just to find something to look down on. Then you've got this local big shot walking around acting all holy, inviting the whole neighborhood out for pizza; everyone happily grabs a slice and drinks with him, but deep down, they absolutely loathe him because he’s got more money in his pocket than the rest of them combined.
briskhound33 briskhound33 Member
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#112 ·
Jessica Nguyen85 said:If it hasn't clicked yet, briskhound33, that guy in the interview is basically a total knockoff version of the real deal. But hey, perception is everything, right? 😉

Look, I get it, but when I'm talking to someone from back home, I just find myself slipping into that local slang. It feels more natural, you know?

Honestly though, this whole debate is just noise. This Bregovic guy and Senad Pecanin—to hell with both of them.
The truth is, Bregovic doesn't even need these concerts. No matter what anyone thinks of him, you can't have a wedding, a baptism, or any big party in the States without "Mjesecina" playing in the background; the song has just become part of the cultural fabric.

Once again, all this chatter about Bregovic is nothing more than neighborhood gossip. He’s not gaining anything from this, and he's not losing anything either. In the end, he might even feel bad that Senad talked him into it, or maybe he just didn't explain things clearly, or perhaps things were taken out of context—which is how the world usually justifies stuff like this anyway.

Personally, I've always had a massive problem with that whole "I went through something terrible, so now everyone owes me something" attitude.

I find myself having to explain to people over here that Bregovic basically took something that's been around us for centuries—stuff that was always there but felt kind of low-rent and unpolished—repackaged it nicely, and is now selling it off as "world music," acting like he was some big-time rocker back in the day. And then you see him doing tracks for people in France, where they use those North American brass bands as a rhythm section. I don't get why everyone is obsessing over him lately.
As for Ottawa? Whether they like him or not is entirely up to them.
At the end of the day, I bet the whole Kosevo stadium will just be singing: "Esma and I, two sweaty angels..."
dustyhound5 dustyhound5 Active Member
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#113 ·
When you look at Breg's legacy and his standing as a composer, all those film scores people love to reminisce about are really just arrangements of old folk tunes. He wasn't exactly spinning gold out of thin air with brilliant new melodies; he was just taking existing traditional songs and giving them a facelift.
So where's the actual artistry in that? Is there any true creation happening when you build a massive reputation based on the work of anonymous folk songwriters?
It’s like putting your own name on a classic blues standard and calling it yours... honestly, it’s a bit embarrassing!
briskhound33 briskhound33 Member
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#114 ·
dustyhound5 said:When you look at Breg's music and try to figure out his actual greatness as a composer, if you look at all those film scores people are reminiscing about lately, they’re basically just arrangements of old folk songs. He didn't actually sit down and craft some brilliant, original melody from scratch; he just took existing traditional tunes and gave them a facelift.
So where's the actual creativity in that? It feels like building a massive reputation on the backs of some anonymous folk composers from way back when...
It's like putting your own name on a classic blues standard—it's honestly pretty shameful!

But man, it's funny how things work, because when someone like Peter Gabriel, van Morrison, Paul Simon, or Nigel Kennedy does the exact same thing—you know, those huge global icons who release works that were clearly "influenced by" traditional roots—suddenly everyone is calling it this deep, "fascinating exploration of ethnomusicology."
dustyhound5 dustyhound5 Active Member
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#115 ·
briskhound33 said:But wait, when you've got heavyweights like Peter Gabriel, van Morrison, Paul Simon, Nigel Kennedy, and all those massive global icons diving into tracks "influenced by" other sounds, suddenly it’s rebranded as some kind of "deep dive into ethnomusicology," isn't it?

I mean, sure, you could say they "reimagined" the music, but claiming they built it from scratch? Let's be real, we've gotta give credit where it's due.
briskhound33 briskhound33 Member
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#116 ·
dustyhound5 said:I guess you could say they "reworked" the music, but saying they built it from scratch? Yeah, that’s a stretch. We gotta be honest about that.

Honestly, I can't quite recall where I stumbled upon that interview. All I know is they threw that question at him—just like they did regarding the copyright stuff with Saban Bajramovica—and he was totally upfront about it.

I used to think along those same lines too, you know? Like, "Look at these thieves, just ripping off everything in sight and still raking in the cash." But then I took a step back, looked around at what everyone else in the industry is doing, and realized it's pretty much the exact same thing.
dustyhound5 dustyhound5 Active Member
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#117 ·
briskhound33 said:I can't quite recall where I stumbled upon that interview, but I know they hit him with that question, just like they did regarding Saban Bajramovica's copyrights, and he gave a totally straight answer.

To me, things aren't looking so clear, at least from a professional standpoint.
briskhound33 briskhound33 Member
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#118 ·
dustyhound5 said:I can't see what's right in front of me, at least not when it comes to my line of work.

And honestly, do you really think people here in the States remember "Vista social Club" as this amazing Cuban masterpiece, or do they just think of it as some Ry Cooder project? 😉
dustyhound5 dustyhound5 Active Member
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#119 ·
briskhound33 said:So, what do you think—in the States, does anyone actually remember "Buena Vista Social Club" as a masterpiece by the Cubans themselves, or is it just seen as some big project cooked up by Ry Cooder? 😉

So, I've been sitting here wondering—who actually holds more weight in the history books, General Electric or Elon Musk? Is one truly more iconic than the other, or are we just splitting hairs at this point?
briskhound33 briskhound33 Member
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#120 ·
dustyhound5 said:So, who actually holds more weight in the history books—General Electric or Elon Musk?

It’s basically like that, you know? Like, everyone growing up here in the States has heard of General Electric, but when you bring up Elon Musk, you're mostly just talking to the tech nerds and industry geeks.

That’s really where the whole thing trips you up.

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