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Participants driftingpilotdriftingeagle27wiredpilot30Daniel Fisher7Harold Wells20Sophia Lopez9Nicole Collins41Sophia NguyenCharles Hill2stormycrane3placidlynx23boldeagle3Sarah Wood8Michelle Ward4hiddenmarlin18Angela Chavez73Daniel Sullivan36vividpilot14slyskipper21rapidskipper26
placidlynx23 placidlynx23 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#21 ·
James Kelly, solid post. Anyone with half a brain already knows this stuff, but it definitely needed to be laid out here, and you put it into words perfectly. 🙂
Michelle Ward4 Michelle Ward4 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2010
#22 ·
I honestly still don't get why everyone is throwing stones at Simon. In my view, his shows are just a mirror held up to our current culture. Every era has its own arena, and it all boils down to bread and circuses. Everyone wants their fifteen minutes of fame, even the talented ones who opt for the path of least resistance. He isn't exploiting anyone or leading them astray; people are perfectly capable of exploiting themselves in more ways than they care to admit. Sure, I watch Simon's shows—partly because he’s actually one of the more engaging hosts out there—but I’m certainly not the one lining his pockets. Thank goodness we still have actual human beings, rather than some sort of psychological mediocrities, who can distinguish between genuine talent and a complete disaster, helping us realize just how wrong we might be.

Besides, the only reason I jumped into this thread was because calling someone a monster or a piece of trash is just plain rude and classless. It seems I’m not quite equipped for such heavy-handed rhetoric, so I’ll bow out of this debate now. Kisses 🙂
placidlynx23 placidlynx23 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#23 ·
"Freak" is basically a polite, civilized way to describe things like that.
Angela Chavez73 Angela Chavez73 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2009
#24 ·
Why does a woman have to look like a total wreck? Oh, wait, I forgot... nowadays you're supposed to look like some plastic Barbie doll just to be acceptable. If you've got a little extra weight on you, it's apparently a disgrace to humanity! We really are a ridiculous bunch... We'll sit around listening to people like Severina and all that other talentless trash who can't even hit a note to save their lives, yet we turn around and judge Susan Boyle just because she’s a bit fuller-figured, even though she actually has a damn good voice!
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#25 ·
Michelle Ward4 said:Honestly, I only jumped into this thread because calling someone a freak or a piece of trash is just plain insulting and out of line. But clearly, I’m way too classy for this level of vitriol, so I’m bowing out of this conversation right now. Peace. 🙂


Is Simonow’s habit of insulting people in such a disgusting way actually acceptable?
It’s funny how people think they can trash anyone else all day long, but the second they turn that same attitude toward you, suddenly it’s a problem. Total hypocrite. 🙄
So he gets this special pass to insult everyone else, but the second someone calls him out, he plays the victim? Unbelievable.

Of course you find Simon entertaining. People don't just love to watch; they love the chance to align themselves with a superior personality who gets to bully everyone else. There’s a certain thrill in watching someone inflict pain on others, whether it’s a corporate boss at a place like Goldman Sachs or some useless nobody like Simon.
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#26 ·
Angela Chavez73 said:Why on earth should a woman be considered a monster? Oh, right, I forgot—the standard today is just looking like some plastic Barbie doll! Apparently, being a little bit overweight is a global disgrace now. It’s pathetic how people act! We're all just mindless sheep. People will happily listen to someone like Severina or other absolute trash stars who have zero talent and can't even hold a note, yet they turn around and bash Susan Boyle just because she isn't "thin" enough, despite her having an incredible voice!

I don't think anyone actually called Susan a monster; it was someone else entirely, so maybe try paying closer attention to the thread.
Michelle Ward4 Michelle Ward4 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2010
#27 ·
James Kelly said:Is Simon Cowell’s habit of insulting people in the most disgusting ways actually acceptable?
Oh, sure, it’s perfectly fine when he’s tearing someone else down, but heaven forbid he directs it at you—then suddenly it’s a problem, right? Hypocrite. 🙄
Does he just hold some special VIP status where he gets to bully everyone while remaining untouchable himself?

And of course, you find him entertaining. People love more than just watching; they love joining in with a "superior" personality to help punch down at others. Whether it's a corporate boss or a total nobody like Simon, the impulse to inflict pain is apparently part of the fun.

Fair enough... did I ever actually say I agree with his every opinion or that I'm out here campaigning for him? How do you know he hasn't already taken aim at me personally through his comments? I'll admit, some of his insults miss the mark and definitely cross the line of good taste... but then again, half of them are backed up by actual video and audio evidence. Honestly, after watching countless episodes, I still can't wrap my head around why certain people choose to subject themselves to public humiliation and embarrass themselves over and over again.
You’ve turned this entire discussion into a personal attack, passing harsh judgments on people based on nothing more than a couple of posts. Hmm, you remind me of someone... 😉
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#28 ·
Michelle Ward4 said:Fine... did I ever actually say I agree with everything he stands for or that I'm backing him up? How would you know if his comments haven't personally insulted me? I'll admit some of his insults miss the mark and definitely cross a line, but honestly, half of them can be backed up with actual video and audio evidence. Even after watching countless episodes, I still don't get why some people subject themselves to public humiliation and embarrass themselves over and over again.
You’ve turned this whole debate into a personal attack, passing judgment on people based on just a few posts. It’s pretty harsh, really... reminds me of someone. 😉

Yeah, sure... I'm basically Simon Cowell's alter ego. 🤣

Look, the entire concept of that show is total garbage; it only exists because it provides mindless entertainment for the masses who are happy to live on bread and circuses.
It has absolutely nothing to do with music, or Susan Boyle.
You hypocrites and moral monsters want to frame the Susan Boyle story as this "heartwarming human interest piece" where some outcast can succeed through "talent" while everyone else gets stepped on.
Exactly—I don't see her as some ugly freak, but that's how the public perceives her, which is why they lean into that narrative so hard.
At the end of the day, it's just about some musical gurus—like that absolute jerk, scumbag, piece of trash Simon—making a killing off the ratings. They cook up these "inspiring stories" specifically to prey on idiots.
As for you: three "NO" votes. You can go home now. 🙂
Michelle Ward4 Michelle Ward4 Newcomer
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#29 ·
James Kelly said:Oh sure... I'm basically Simonow's alter ego 🤣

And as for you: three "NO" votes? You can take those straight home with you. 🙂

😂
Just toss in a few more flowery adjectives—judging by your posts, that shouldn't be too much of a struggle for you. Maybe one day you'll actually be able to afford a Bugatti. 😁
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#30 ·
Michelle Ward4 said:😂
You could probably just throw in a few more fancy adjectives—judging by your posts, that shouldn't be too much of a stretch for you... maybe then one day you'll actually be able to afford a Bugatti.😁

Honestly, if everyone actually charged people for their nonsense fueled by deep-seated insecurities, we'd all be filthy rich.
Daniel Sullivan36 Daniel Sullivan36 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2019
#31 ·
Susan Boyle’s album is absolutely smashing sales records
In just 24 hours, her debut album moved 134,000 copies. 😉
vividpilot14 vividpilot14 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2021
#32 ·
She’s actually quite charming... though it seems Americans have gone even more mad for her than they did in the United Kingdom🙂
It is projected that she will move 700,000 units during this opening week alone right here in the States😲

Meanwhile, over in the United Kingdom, the expectation is that she might just shatter the record held by Leona Lewis for the best-selling debut album in history, which sat at 375,000 copies

The hype—and Simon Cowell himself—really does work wonders🙂
stormycrane3 stormycrane3 Member
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#33 ·
I guess Susan is truly a one-of-a-kind phenomenon. It’s pretty wild how someone who felt so "old" and was completely unknown just a short while ago has managed to capture more attention and "fame" than some artists spend decades trying to build! When it comes to her singing and that incredible voice of hers, I really have to hand it to her. (I don't actually listen to this specific genre of music, but I still get goosebumps whenever I hear that first recording from her performance on BST!) I’ll definitely be borrowing (not necessarily buying) her album once it drops just to give it a listen. Besides her beautiful voice, I suppose Susan owes a huge debt to the media for discovering her and turning her into the star she is today—because, honestly, the same media outlets that built her up could just as easily tear her down completely. It’s nice to see the media actually doing something right for once!!
driftingpilot driftingpilot MemberOP
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joined Aug 2010
#34 ·
Susan Boyle is actually outperforming some of today's biggest American superstars... In just one single week, her album moved a staggering 410,000 units.
slyskipper21 slyskipper21 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2009
#35 ·
Did she actually earn this spotlight through talent, or did she just happen to land on a reality show that peddles cheap emotions to people staring at their screens hoping for miracles that don't exist anymore?

It’s all just clever marketing—a pretty little story designed to pull at heartstrings... and people just want to believe in dreams. It feels like she got swept up in the whole circus, whether she meant to or not.

But what's really going on beneath that polished exterior?
Suzanne has already been hospitalized for depression a few times, which
only proves she lacks the actual ability to back up this unearned
fame.
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#36 ·
slyskipper21 said:Did she actually earn this thread through any real talent, or did she just stumble into the spotlight of some reality show designed to sell cheap sentimentality to people staring at their screens, praying for miracles that aren't coming anymore?

It’s all just clever marketing—a polished PR campaign wrapped in a beautiful story meant to tug at heartstrings... and people, well, they just want to believe in fairy tales. It feels like she somehow got swept up in this whole "circus" without even meaning to.

But what's really going on beneath that perfectly packaged exterior?
The fact that Suzanne has been hospitalized for depression several times already
just goes to show she lacks the grit required to handle this unearned
fame.


Honestly, there's about 90% truth in what was written here, and it pretty much aligns with my own take. 👍
slyskipper21 slyskipper21 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2009
#37 ·
James Kelly said:There’s about 90% truth in this, and honestly, I feel the exact same way. 👍


I'm just glad someone finally agrees with me...😉

Look, it's all just a cheap script designed to squeeze emotions and sympathy out of us. The whole pathetic act makes me sick.
Harold Wells20 Harold Wells20 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2010
#38 ·
slyskipper21 said:Did she actually earn this thread through some sort of genuine talent, or did she simply happen to find herself under the spotlight of a reality show designed to sell cheap sentimentality to people sitting in front of their tiny screens, praying for miracles that just don't exist anymore?

It’s all just clever marketing, isn't it? A polished advertisement wrapped up in a beautiful narrative that tugs at the heartstrings of the masses... and people, well, they desperately want to believe in fairy tales. It seems to me that this lady, perhaps quite unintentionally, has become a central figure in this entire "circus."

But what exactly lies beneath that perfectly curated packaging?
The fact that Suzanne has been hospitalized multiple times due to depression
only serves to confirm that she lacks the fortitude required to handle this unearned
fame.

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Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#39 ·
slyskipper21 said:I'm just glad someone finally has the guts to speak my mind...😉

Look, give me a break. It’s all just part of some cheap, manufactured script designed to squeeze every last drop of sympathy out of us. Honestly, the whole pathetic display makes me sick.

Yeah, because Simon Cowell is such a saint when it comes to "empathy." 🤮
rapidskipper26 rapidskipper26 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2009
#40 ·
The Billboard Hot 100 update just dropped! Everyone else seems totally stunned!
Miley Cyrus jumped from number 29 all the way to number 2, which means she actually passed both Rihanna and Lady Gaga!
Now she’s even fighting Susan for that top spot. I guess nobody saw this coming, since the predictions didn't even have her in the top 10!

LW TW artist / album label power index
-- 1 SUSAN BOYLE 138,496
I DREAMED A DREAM
29 2 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 107,999
TIME OF OUR LIVES
9 3 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 70,441
PLAY ON
-- 4 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 56,365
FAME MONSTER (EP)
-- 5 ADAM LAMBERT 19/RCA/RMG 56,128
FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT
-- 6 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJ 46,385
RATED R
8 7 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 45,656
THIS IS IT
15 8 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC SONY MUSIC 44,666
NOW 32
7 9 TWILIGHT SAGA: NEW MOON CHOP SHOP/ATLANTIC 40,071
SOUNDTRACK
11 10 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 36,244
FEARLESS
2 11 ANDREA BOCELLI DECCA 35,016
MY CHRISTMAS
6 12 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 33,346
MY WORLD
18 13 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 32,147
GLEE, VOL. 1
3 14 NORAH JONES BLUE NOTE 28,252
THE FALL
-- 15 SHAKIRA COLUMBIA 27,589
SHE WOLF
1 16 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 26,363
BATTLE STUDIES
34 17 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 25,396
FAME
26 18 TIM MCGRAW CURB 25,058
SOUTHERN VOICE
24 19 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE 22,665
LADY ANTEBELLUM
19 20 BON JOVI ISLAND/IDJMG 20,398
THE CIRCLE

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