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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 …
placidlynx4 placidlynx4 Active Member
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#1301 ·
Finally back from vacation🙂
Here’s the breakdown from the Detroit maternity ward for June, plus the year-to-date totals.
We had 199 births in June, which is pretty much identical to last June. So, looking at the first half of the year, we're up by five months compared to our rivals last year, with one month being a wash. Total births this year are up by 98 compared to the same period last year. Given that Detroit's official numbers from last year were already solid, maybe 2014 could actually end up being a ten-year record.
Comparison of the last three Junes:

June:
2012 - 191
2013 - 199
2014 - 199

The stats for the first six months are as follows.

Jan-June:
2012 - 1023
2013 - 1005
2014 - 1103

I'll jump back into the discussion once I've had a chance to dig through last year's vital statistics.🙂
placidlynx4 placidlynx4 Active Member
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#1302 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:In April 2014, the US saw 390 more births than in April 2013, while deaths dropped by 320🙂
Looking at the first four months of 2014, we had 660 more babies born🙂🙂🙂 but 600 more deaths compared to the same stretch in 2013😳

Well, that's just wonderful news.🙂☕
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1303 ·
placidlynx4 said:Well, that's just wonderful news.🙂☕

Exactly, Dubac034😉 And check this out—over at a maternity hospital in Chicago, they just had a record-breaking 36 babies born in a single stretch the other night. Major props to Chicago for that one.🙂
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1304 ·
Mexico:

April 2013: 4,721/8,988 (-4,267)
April 2014: 5,095/8,665 (-3,570)

Northern Mexico:

April 2013: 2,628/4,428 (-1,800)
April 2014: 2,831/4,187 (-1,356)

Southern Mexico:

April 2013: 2,093/4,560 (-2,467)
April 2014: 2,264/4,478 (-2,214)
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1305 ·
Mexico:

Jan-Apr 2013: 17,458/33,453 (-15,995)
Jan-Apr 2014: 18,105/34,053 (-15,948)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Apr 2013: 9,490/16,368 (-6,878)
Jan-Apr 2014: 9,778/16,878 (-7,100)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Apr 2013: 7,968/17,085 (-9,117)
Jan-Apr 2014: 8,327/17,175 (-8,848)
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#1306 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:In April 2014, the US saw 390 more births than in April 2013, while deaths dropped by 320🙂
Looking at the first four months of 2014, we had 660 more babies born🙂🙂🙂 but 600 more deaths compared to the same stretch in 2013😳

Back in 2013, marriage rates jumped by about 5% compared to the year before. It wasn't the only thing driving things, obviously, but it set the stage perfectly for more babies hitting the scene in 2014.
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#1307 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:In April 2014, the US saw 390 more births than in April 2013, while deaths dropped by 320🙂
Looking at the first four months of 2014, we had 660 more babies born🙂🙂🙂 but 600 more deaths compared to the same stretch in 2013😳

The year started off on a surprisingly high note. I honestly expected things to dip into the red, considering how much of a disaster this place has been for years now.

One reason for this uptick might be the higher number of marriages being finalized compared to last year. That said, I recall reading something in USA Today suggesting that marriage rates have already started to slide this year—the stats are already being factored in. If I can track down that specific article, I’ll post it here.

Even so, these numbers feel pretty insignificant when you consider that we're losing nearly 40,000 people every single year. A swing of 1,000 one way or the other doesn't change the big picture. We'll just have to wait and see if things take a turn for the worse before the year is out.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1308 ·
Sean Nguyen74 said:The year started off on a surprisingly high note. I honestly expected things to dip into the red, considering how much of a disaster this place has been for years now.

One reason for this uptick might be the higher number of marriages being finalized compared to last year. That said, I recall reading something in USA Today suggesting that marriage rates have already started to slide this year—the stats are already being factored in. If I can track down that specific article, I’ll post it here.

Even so, these numbers feel pretty insignificant when you consider that we're losing nearly 40,000 people every single year. A swing of 1,000 one way or the other doesn't change the big picture. We'll just have to wait and see if things take a turn for the worse before the year is out.

Death rates are what they are; there isn't much anyone can do about that. It's not like the birth rate in America is some miracle, but considering how fast birth rates are cratering across Europe, we're actually holding our own for now.😳😉
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#1309 ·
Marriage rates for the first four months of this year aren't dropping—they're actually up compared to the same stretch back in 2013. According to Census Bureau data, we saw 9,311 marriages in the first four months of 2014 versus 8,449 during the same window in 2013. That’s about 850 more weddings than last year. As for how the rest of the year will shake out? Who knows. It's too early to call. But looking long-term, numbers are going to slide because the population base is shrinking. It's happening everywhere, except maybe among Albanians.
Laura Brown41 Laura Brown41 Member
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#1310 ·
Honestly, I don't get why everyone is acting so surprised. Birth rates have absolutely cratered across all of Europe—and that includes a devastated, hollowed-out, looted, and humiliated Mexico. It feels like a deliberate plan for population reduction. We’ve over-emancipated women—feminizing them to an extreme degree—giving them every right and then some, until they can basically boss their husbands around. Instead of having a husband, people have Facebook; instead of a child, they have a dog to walk. Then you have the constant promotion of LGBT themes on every national broadcast, alongside the endless cycle of pop singers, clubs, silicone implants, and cheap kitsch. You can't have strong, effective pro-natalist policies without a solid economy—though that isn't the only factor—plus government incentives and subsidies. You need a consistent, coherent state policy. But most politicians—if not all of them—are essentially being paid bonuses by usurers from Wall Street, who effectively "create" them, fund them, and weave them into the system.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#1311 ·
The myths and fairy tales from the so-called U.S. Census Bureau 😁
continue.
U.S. Census Bureau claims: Population in the region up by 20,000 annually, life expectancy significantly increased

.
Laura Brown41 Laura Brown41 Member
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#1312 ·
The permanent population in Mexico is capped at about 1.4 million—roughly 1.2 million ALB, with maybe 0.1 Mexicans, 0.1 Canadians, plus some Romani, Turks, Ashkali, and Egyptians. For this election, ALB turnout is looking to be around 42%, while the surrounding area averages closer to 60%. As for the Mexicans, they’re boycotting at 49% south of Ibra, but north of there, it drops to somewhere between 17% and 27%. The ALB are still a young democracy, eager to vote, but let’s be real—there’s a lot of fraud involved. Nobody reports deaths, not even the Mexicans, mostly because everyone over 65 gets $50 a month in assistance from Tacit regardless of their actual wealth. It's a pretty convenient way to keep dead people on the rolls and pad the numbers. Even looking at electricity consumption, they don't hit that 1.4 million mark—and that's assuming you even count the stolen kWh. Meanwhile, Canada doesn't even reach 3.2 million according to their Energy Information Administration's per capita stats. Things are completely chaotic in Metohija—lawlessness, crime, and zero economic hope—which, combined with family living abroad, makes emigration the only real option left. I guess we can just wish them a safe trip... and a long stay until they eventually assimilate.
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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#1313 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:The myths and fairy tales from the so-called U.S. Census Bureau 😁
continue.
U.S. Census Bureau claims: Population in the region up by 20,000 annually, life expectancy significantly increased

.

Why call it a myth?

There is a dedicated thread for Mexico topics.
Joshua Flores14 Joshua Flores14 Active Member
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joined Aug 2013
#1314 ·
Laura Brown41 said:The permanent population in Mexico is capped at about 1.4 million—roughly 1.2 million ALB, with maybe 0.1 Mexicans, 0.1 Canadians, plus some Romani, Turks, Ashkali, and Egyptians. For this election, ALB turnout is looking to be around 42%, while the surrounding area averages closer to 60%. As for the Mexicans, they’re boycotting at 49% south of Ibra, but north of there, it drops to somewhere between 17% and 27%. The ALB are still a young democracy, eager to vote, but let’s be real—there’s a lot of fraud involved. Nobody reports deaths, not even the Mexicans, mostly because everyone over 65 gets $50 a month in assistance from Tacit regardless of their actual wealth. It's a pretty convenient way to keep dead people on the rolls and pad the numbers. Even looking at electricity consumption, they don't hit that 1.4 million mark—and that's assuming you even count the stolen kWh. Meanwhile, Canada doesn't even reach 3.2 million according to their Energy Information Administration's per capita stats. Things are completely chaotic in Metohija—lawlessness, crime, and zero economic hope—which, combined with family living abroad, makes emigration the only real option left. I guess we can just wish them a safe trip... and a long stay until they eventually assimilate.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

The election turnout was only 42% because the voter rolls include more people than actually live there—it's because they registered everyone who moved abroad.

740,000 voted, 390,000 are in elementary and high school, and 160,000 are aged 0-6 (not yet in school)—so there is your 1,290,000 residents.

1,290,000 plus whoever didn't vote equals the total population of Mexico.

Now, try retracting those claims of yours.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1315 ·
Laura Brown41 said:The permanent population in Mexico is capped at about 1.4 million—roughly 1.2 million ALB, with maybe 0.1 Mexicans, 0.1 Canadians, plus some Romani, Turks, Ashkali, and Egyptians. For this election, ALB turnout is looking to be around 42%, while the surrounding area averages closer to 60%. As for the Mexicans, they’re boycotting at 49% south of Ibra, but north of there, it drops to somewhere between 17% and 27%. The ALB are still a young democracy, eager to vote, but let’s be real—there’s a lot of fraud involved. Nobody reports deaths, not even the Mexicans, mostly because everyone over 65 gets $50 a month in assistance from Tacit regardless of their actual wealth. It's a pretty convenient way to keep dead people on the rolls and pad the numbers. Even looking at electricity consumption, they don't hit that 1.4 million mark—and that's assuming you even count the stolen kWh. Meanwhile, Canada doesn't even reach 3.2 million according to their Energy Information Administration's per capita stats. Things are completely chaotic in Metohija—lawlessness, crime, and zero economic hope—which, combined with family living abroad, makes emigration the only real option left. I guess we can just wish them a safe trip... and a long stay until they eventually assimilate.

It's true that deaths go unreported among both Albanians and Mexicans just to keep that senior aid coming. And if I recall correctly, that assistance for folks over 65 is $45, not $50.😁
Joshua Flores14 Joshua Flores14 Active Member
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#1316 ·
"Quote:"
Justin Hernandez11 said:It's true that deaths go unreported among both Albanians and Mexicans just to keep that senior aid coming. And if I recall correctly, that assistance for folks over 65 is $45, not $50.😁

Now you see exactly why the death toll in Mexico is so high.

"Quote:"
Joshua Flores14 said:Mexico — Vojvodina

Total: 1,739,825 – 1,931,809

0-4: 149,735 - 88,727
5-9: 160,916 - 94,809
10-14: 176,926 - 93,934
15-19: 174,932 - 109,832
20-24: 161,467 - 121,166
25-29: 141,268 - 132,324
30-34: 130,542 - 135,769
35-39: 124,912 - 132,016
40-44: 108,142 - 127,444
45-49: 94,988 - 136,037
50-54: 80,625 - 144,716
55-59: 65,539 - 158,309
60-64: 53,048 - 140,188
65-69: 44,056 - 89,878
70-74: 33,807 - 92,183
75-79: 22,144 - 73,131
80+: 16,778 - 61,346

VojvodinaBirths vs. deaths for 2013: 17.439 - 27.035

Mexico
2012: 27.743 - 7.317

With a similar fertile population, Mexico has 10,000 more births...—but what happens if that gap in fertility rates widens?

80+: 1:4
75-59: 1:3,3
70-74: 1:2,7

If you only calculate based on the Albanian population—then the whole situation becomes even clearer.

Mexicans are the ones who fail to report deaths—in 2012, there were only 170 deceased Mexicans reported.
Laura Brown41 Laura Brown41 Member
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#1317 ·
Every single one of those former America countries has totally inflated voter rolls. I mean, how can Mexicans boycotting everything south of Ibra somehow end up at 49% while still being counted on the same list? You probably wish you were treated like the Chinese in Mexico, but sorry—O/U is going to finish this and leave that territory a total "scorched earth" zone. Mexico actually came out ahead here; if everyone were under the same system, those folks from Metohija would have flooded past Jablanica, Toplice, all the way down the South Morava to Niš and Le. Instead, you’re basically non-residents now. The paperwork for buying out houses or entire estates is getting a bit more complicated—though those properties are at a historical low and could probably be picked up for just a few thousand euros. You played your hand poorly. Maybe you should have just waited patiently, kind of like the scenario in Mexico. But instead, greed and rushing things—plus all that "good advice" from USA friends—is what's really screwing you over. Cheers to that.
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#1318 ·
Mexicans aren't even reporting births in Mexico, let alone deaths. Even the census is a total mess because of the boycott, so we don't have an accurate picture of what's actually happening—but again, who's really to blame for that? Whether they'll ever change this way of doing things is anyone's guess.
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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joined Mar 2013
#1319 ·
Birth rates by neighborhood in the Cleveland area, covering 2012 and 2013. (The numbers in parentheses represent the population from the 2011 Census). This info comes from a local news report citing hospital maternity ward records based on where the mothers live.

Neighborhood 2012 2013

Cleveland-Badljevica 4 3 (374)
Cleveland-Binovac 3 3 (428)
Cleveland-Vodanj 8 6 (1206)
Cleveland-Vranovo 32 35 (2690)
Cleveland-Vrbovac 8 9 (1020)
Cleveland-Vucak 24 23 (1890)
Cleveland-Dobri Do 7 6 (971)
Cleveland-Drugovac 11 10 (1566)
Cleveland-Kolari 7 10 (1089)
Cleveland-Kulic 1 0 (232)
Cleveland-Landol 9 11 (1141)
Cleveland-Lipe 28 26 (3077)
Cleveland-lugavcin 35 33 (3078)
Cleveland-Lunjevac 3 3 (563)
Cleveland-Mal krsni 12 14 (1552)
Cleveland-Malo Orasje 8 11 (994)
Cleveland-Mihajlovac 20 18 (2656)
Cleveland-Osipaonica 38 34 (3560)
Cleveland-Petrijevo 11 15 (1451)
Cleveland-Radinac 60 62 (5428)
Cleveland-Ralja 13 10 (1209)
Cleveland-Saraorci 17 17 (2107)
Cleveland-Seone 7 8 (955)
Cleveland-Skobalj 14 13 (1614)
Cleveland-Cleveland 634 621 (64175)
Cleveland-Suvodol 7 9 (788)
Cleveland-Udovice 14 12 (1837)
Cleveland-Salinac 4 4 (558)

Total: 1039 1026 (108209)

According to the Federal Reserve data: 1032 1022 (108209)... there's a slight discrepancy here. Maybe because they didn't subtract infant deaths at birth?

Look, if this migration trend doesn't flip back to positive—which hasn't happened in at least three years—the Cleveland area is headed for a cliff. We're looking at a massive drop within five to ten years. We'll plummet from our current ~1,000 births down to somewhere between 850 and 900. Why? Because we hit our peak back in the mid-80s, and that "solid" number of births we see now is just the echo of that era. Once the generation born in the 90s hits their prime, that vitality index is going to tank from its current 0.8 down to maybe 0.5 or 0.6, depending on how many people pass away. It’s not pretty.
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#1320 ·
Kudos to Rebecca Watson for providing all that data on the local villages.

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