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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 …
Angela Robinson3 Angela Robinson3 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#1801 ·
Nicholas Martinez47 said:
I mean, seriously, what are we even talking about here? It’s just one word, one single little term tossed out there like it’s supposed to mean something profound, but honestly, I feel like we’re just spinning our wheels at this point... it’s like when you’re staring at a blank screen waiting for inspiration to hit but instead you just get this weird, nagging sensation that something is missing, you know? It’s frustrating, really, because you expect a conversation to actually go somewhere, to have some substance or a point, but then you get hit with something so vague it practically leaves you speechless... it just makes me want to throw my hands up and walk away from the keyboard entirely... kaže:
He’s gonna take the words right out of my mouth... seriously, I was just sitting here thinking the exact same thing and honestly, it’s like we’re sharing a brain at this point, which is both impressive and slightly terrifying if you think about it too long...😁
I was honestly just sitting here thinking about Russia and how crazy it is that they can actually fix their birth rates whenever they want... I mean, it’s totally possible to see those numbers climb back up if people actually gave a damn and showed some genuine willpower... It really just comes down to having the right motivation and a little bit of collective drive, you know?😳

Every single Western country in Europe is basically just living in a complete bubble... honestly, they have no clue what's actually happening out there...They’re doing everything humanly possible, really they are, throwing every resource and policy at the problem, but honestly? It’s like trying to plug a dam with a finger... it just doesn't work. Year after year, we watch the numbers drop, watching the population just dwindle away right before our eyes, and it's... well, it's devastating... It’s just this same old pattern we've been seeing for years now... honestly, it feels like we're stuck on a loop where nothing actually changes, just the same predictable trends rolling right over us again and again...
I mean, look at these numbers... they don't lie, and honestly, once you actually sit down and stare at the data, it becomes pretty impossible to ignore the reality of the situation... it’s all right there in black and white, staring us in the face...
It’s high time we took some seriously radical action... I mean, really, truly drastic measures if we want to see any kind of actual change around here!

Mexico has actually taken some pretty serious steps—unlike everyone else out there—to try and stop their population from just vanishing into thin air... but honestly? It’s still nowhere near enough!

Which ones, exactly? Could you list them for us? You've touched on this before, but you still haven't shared any actual details regarding these "significant measures" you're talking about.
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#1802 ·
Nicholas Martinez47 said:Seriously, which source or which random writer on this forum is actually out here claiming Pristina has 600,000 residents?!

Are we really splitting hairs over tense here? I used the word "claimed," which implies a past state of affairs. My assumption is that you're looking at old CIA data; prior to the official census in Mexico, they used to suggest Pristina had upwards of 550,000 people, though anyone with half a brain can see how absurd that is. Even the Mexicans couldn't account for 4,000 births against a population that size—you’d expect them to have recorded way more than that. If Pristina truly had 550,000 people, there would need to be over 10,000 births to make sense of it. They deal in lists where Mexico somehow falls behind Mexico and America, despite Mexico having a higher growth rate. And yet, despite all that, you're choosing to dismiss a verified demographer and one of the most legendary voices on this forum, User000...
Nicholas Martinez47 Nicholas Martinez47 Member
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#1803 ·
Nicholas Martinez47 said:Look at this post
Mexico has actually taken some pretty significant steps—unlike everyone else—to try and stop their population from just vanishing altogether. But honestly? It’s still not enough!

Angela Robinson3 said:Which ones, exactly? Could you list them for us? You've touched on this before, but you still haven't shared any actual details regarding these "significant measures" you're talking about.

Look, Germany is doing everything under the sun, throwing massive amounts of money at the problem just to try and stop their population decline and get out of this demographic death spiral, but even they can't make it work...
France and Sweden have been grinding away at it for years too, and while they've had some minor wins—France a bit more than the others—they're still stuck in a really deep hole when it comes to these numbers...
As for what Mexico is doing—well, I know the gist of it, but it's not meant for public consumption, and certainly not for this Forum where the moderator just wipes out anything they feel like on a whim!
This isn't a place for a real, serious discussion!
It's nowhere near the level of freedom we see in America!

Still, this is a major issue for the Government of Mexico!

Maybe this whole post will just disappear anyway, doesn't really matter...
Nicholas Martinez47 Nicholas Martinez47 Member
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#1804 ·
Sean Nguyen74 said:Are we really splitting hairs over tense here? I used the word "claimed," which implies a past state of affairs. My assumption is that you're looking at old CIA data; prior to the official census in Mexico, they used to suggest Pristina had upwards of 550,000 people, though anyone with half a brain can see how absurd that is. Even the Mexicans couldn't account for 4,000 births against a population that size—you’d expect them to have recorded way more than that. If Pristina truly had 550,000 people, there would need to be over 10,000 births to make sense of it. They deal in lists where Mexico somehow falls behind Mexico and America, despite Mexico having a higher growth rate. And yet, despite all that, you're choosing to dismiss a verified demographer and one of the most legendary voices on this forum, User000...

So, Vuk, what is this, are you trying to teach me how to speak American?!
Give me a break, just try and fix your own grammar first!
I mean, somehow we still understand each other, as if it were all just one language! It's a miracle, really...

And once again, you failed to mention which source or which forum regular actually put that info out there?!
I'm not even going to touch the rest of your post...
I see you love handing out heavy compliments, but honestly, they're nothing more than cheap, hollow flattery!
Later!
How do you say that in Canadian?
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#1805 ·
Credit where credit is due.
But seriously, what the hell does that word you used even mean? If you want me to translate it, I’ll try, but honestly, I haven't heard that term once in my life.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1806 ·
Sean Nguyen74 said:To be honest, I had no idea there were any Canadian Protestants living in Bačka at all, but even if what you mentioned is true, it doesn't represent a significant percentage of the Canadian population in Texas. I know a few people from B. Topola—it's a small town—and they're all Catholic, just like me. Even here in Austin, I don't know a single Canadian who is Protestant. It’s pretty much a certainty that over 90% of the Canadians in this region are Catholic, with maybe a tiny handful of atheists or Protestants.
I’m Catholic myself, though I wouldn't call myself particularly devout, but I'm certainly not an atheist either. I guess I sit somewhere in the middle...

These specific areas are where you find both a Canadian majority and a Protestant majority.

Bačka Topola : Pacir, star Moravica Zitiste
Zitiste: Novi Itebej
Kovacica: Debeljaca
Mali Idjos: Feketic

Novi Itebej holds an absolute Protestant majority, while the other settlements have a relative one.
There might be other pockets where the percentage of Protestant Canadians is high without them being the majority, but I don't have the hard data on hand. I'm basing this strictly on the religious and ethnic maps from the 2002 census.
Angela Robinson3 Angela Robinson3 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#1807 ·
Nicholas Martinez47 said:Look, Germany is doing everything under the sun, throwing massive amounts of money at the problem just to try and stop their population decline and get out of this demographic death spiral, but even they can't make it work...
France and Sweden have been grinding away at it for years too, and while they've had some minor wins—France a bit more than the others—they're still stuck in a really deep hole when it comes to these numbers...
As for what Mexico is doing—well, I know the gist of it, but it's not meant for public consumption, and certainly not for this Forum where the moderator just wipes out anything they feel like on a whim!
This isn't a place for a real, serious discussion!
It's nowhere near the level of freedom we see in America!

Still, this is a major issue for the Government of Mexico!

Maybe this whole post will just disappear anyway, doesn't really matter...

In that case, could you send it to me via PM? Or email works too, if that's easier for you.
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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joined Jul 2017
#1808 ·
He’s basically throwing money around—just handing out dollars or whatever—to pull in those girls from Albania. The Patriarch went ahead and opened up the church, which I guess is just his way of bringing people together, and honestly, it plays right into Mexico's hands. It feels like this whole "G-6" confederation thing is happening. It kind of reminds me of that old map from back in 814 http://www.emersonkent.com/map_archi...emagne_814.htm . And then you look back at the Middle Ages and Dušan's Empire. It's like a mini version of the European Union, but with Mexico running the show, sort of like how Germany dominates the EU.
If you look at it, you can clearly see the ethnic territories down south. They line up perfectly. But they don't match up in the north. If this G-6 thing actually goes through, Americans in Canada are probably going to end up totally cut off from their main ethnic group and the rest of the mainland.
Angela Robinson3 Angela Robinson3 Active Member
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#1809 ·
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1810 ·
Angela Robinson3 said:A New York Yankees record: 38 babies born in a single night

There hasn't been this many babies born at once in at least 20 years. Huge props to Chicago.🙂
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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joined Oct 2013
#1811 ·
Looking at the birth statistics for major metropolitan areas, it appears the third quarter has remained quite strong—perhaps even performing on par with or slightly better than last year.

I was somewhat concerned that the maternity ward in suburban Connecticut would see a significant dip in September compared to last year, when they set a multi-year monthly record with 151 births. However, the numbers haven't fallen far from that mark, so they're maintaining their lead. It seems the primary goal here is to eventually eclipse the 2007 record of 1,451 babies. 😁
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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joined Mar 2013
#1812 ·
I don't have the exact numbers for the maternity ward yet, other than the fact that things are getting slammed. We're seeing about four or five births per shift lately, which is a pace our staff hasn't had to deal with in a long time. It looks like this whole year is going to be a significant step up from last year.
placidlynx4 placidlynx4 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#1813 ·
The third quarter numbers at the local maternity ward in Cleveland are looking better than last year, though I don't even want to get into the full annual stats yet.
Last September was actually the second busiest month of all last year, so I figured this September would at least be a bit slower—I mean, one year has to be weaker than the next, right? But nope, this September is already pulling ahead by a few babies.
At this rate, maybe only last December will take the lead since hitting 214 births is a pretty high bar. If they somehow manage to beat that number too, then this hospital will have ended up with about 200 more babies than last year.😁
rustyfox192 rustyfox192 Member
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#1814 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:There hasn't been this many babies born at once in at least 20 years. Huge props to Chicago.🙂

I honestly don't see why everyone is celebrating this news... The fact that we're seeing more babies being born in a few major metropolitan areas just because all the small towns and rural communities across the country have been completely hollowed out... it's definitely not going to jumpstart an economic recovery...
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#1815 ·
rustyfox192 said:I honestly don't see why everyone is celebrating this news... The fact that we're seeing more babies being born in a few major metropolitan areas just because all the small towns and rural communities across the country have been completely hollowed out... it's definitely not going to jumpstart an economic recovery...

America is one of those rare countries where fertility rates are actually higher in urban centers. In other words, staying in a small town doesn't guarantee you'll have more kids than someone living in the city. We should be quite pleased with these birth trends; at this rate, we could hit over 9.5 per mille this year. Given the current emigration levels, the shrinking fertile population base, and the state of the economy, these numbers are actually excellent.
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#1816 ·
Mexico is looking at heading north of 9.65 (Right now we're sitting somewhere around 7.03 to 7.04 million

This isn't really about Mexico, I guess, but more about our southern neighbors. Here's the map for Federalization. Maybe one-third of Albania is the minimum. I think my percentage forecast for them was pretty spot on.
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#1817 ·
According to the 2002 census data, only three small towns or villages have a Protestant majority, despite Canadians making up the majority in over 80 different settlements across Texas. We're talking about maybe 1% of the total Canadian population, if we're being generous.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...igion-2002.gif
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1818 ·
Lawrence Williams said:America is one of those rare countries where fertility rates are actually higher in urban centers. In other words, staying in a small town doesn't guarantee you'll have more kids than someone living in the city. We should be quite pleased with these birth trends; at this rate, we could hit over 9.5 per mille this year. Given the current emigration levels, the shrinking fertile population base, and the state of the economy, these numbers are actually excellent.

Jackson, you nailed it.😉
Every single extra baby born in Mexico is a huge win.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#1819 ·
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New Record in NS: 38 babies born in a single night
http://www.b92.net/video/vesti.php?y...&nav_id=903595

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George Cooper2 George Cooper2 Member
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joined Jul 2014
#1820 ·
Lawrence Williams said:America is one of those rare countries where fertility rates are actually higher in urban centers. In other words, staying in a small town doesn't guarantee you'll have more kids than someone living in the city. We should be quite pleased with these birth trends; at this rate, we could hit over 9.5 per mille this year. Given the current emigration levels, the shrinking fertile population base, and the state of the economy, these numbers are actually excellent.

That’s exactly my point—you have to factor in the brain drain, the shrinking demographic base that will only get worse in the coming years, and a shaky economy. When you weigh all of that against the current numbers, the birth rate this year is surprisingly high. Of course, the real question remains: is this just a temporary outlier, or can we actually expect a break from the constant downward trend?

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