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vivideagle7 vivideagle7 Active Member
135 messages
joined Oct 2014
#5041 ·
brightpilot6 said:It seems you didn't quite grasp even the parts that were glaringly obvious to the casual popcorn eater.

Oh right, I forgot, you're just one of those people who gets hung up on the editing.

🤦🤣🤣

And that’s just looking at it from a "space" perspective. Not to mention that the entire central point of the film seems to have completely, entirely escaped you.

Wait, did you actually buy into that scene that Queen described?
Jack Murphy5 Jack Murphy5 Active Member
59 messages
joined Feb 2014
#5042 ·
The absolute worst part of Interstellar is that five-minute sequence where some guy has to explain the entire mechanics of space travel to Cooper—the very man who was entrusted with the whole mission. To make matters even more ridiculous, he actually ends up sketching it out on paper at the end. Like, come on. Give me a break.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#5043 ·
vivideagle7 said:Wait, did you actually buy into that scene that Queen described?

Which one exactly?

In which instance did they stumble upon something by pure chance?

The one where they happened upon something the size of New York City?

Or perhaps the moment they caught a glimpse of that thing out in the cornfields?

Something roughly the scale of the Eiffel Tower?

I didn't quite swallow that specific scene myself; it seems like it was just you and GQ who saw it clearly.

I suppose it all comes down to the editing.
vivideagle7 vivideagle7 Active Member
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#5044 ·
brightpilot6 said:Which one exactly?

In which instance did they stumble upon something by pure chance?

The one where they happened upon something the size of New York City?

Or perhaps the moment they caught a glimpse of that thing out in the cornfields?

Something roughly the scale of the Eiffel Tower?

I didn't quite swallow that specific scene myself; it seems like it was just you and GQ who saw it clearly.

I suppose it all comes down to the editing.

GQ is definitely leaning into their usual habit of exaggerating things, but I guess there's some truth to it.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#5045 ·
Jack Murphy5 said:The absolute worst part of Interstellar is that five-minute sequence where some guy has to explain the entire mechanics of space travel to Cooper—the very man who was entrusted with the whole mission. To make matters even more ridiculous, he actually ends up sketching it out on paper at the end. Like, come on. Give me a break.

Look, Cooper is a pilot. Being a pilot doesn't automatically mean you're a PhD in relativity. In a world where people can't wrap their heads around anything, they expect an MTA driver to also be an expert in urban traffic engineering, but that isn't how reality works for the rest of us. The movie itself provides zero logical reason why he should have mastered those specific scientific theories beforehand.

It’s just as unrealistic to assume the average viewer possesses enough specialized knowledge to intuitively understand that a wormhole is essentially a sphere.

Besides, where exactly in the film does it state that he's in charge of the entire operation? If he truly were the one calling all the shots, wouldn't he be the primary decision-maker regarding where the mission goes and where it doesn't?

Good grief, it feels like I'm debating a group of people who haven't even watched the movie, but have instead just scrolled through the comment sections on Reddit.🤣
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#5046 ·
vivideagle7 said:GQ is definitely leaning into their usual habit of exaggerating things, but I guess there's some truth to it.

It’s a bit surprising that you’d ask if I actually swallowed that scene described by the QG in the first place, only to pivot now and suggest they didn't describe it so much as "hyperbolize" it. If that's the case, which specific scene are we actually discussing here, so I might be able to repeat it?
vivideagle7 vivideagle7 Active Member
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joined Oct 2014
#5047 ·
brightpilot6 said:It’s a bit surprising that you’d ask if I actually swallowed that scene described by the QG in the first place, only to pivot now and suggest they didn't describe it so much as "hyperbolize" it. If that's the case, which specific scene are we actually discussing here, so I might be able to repeat it?

Are you really splitting hairs over 🙂

Anyway, did you buy into that whole sequence where they discover the space base and everything leading up to that departure?
GQ was just being dramatic because they wanted to drive home how naive that moment felt (assuming we're even talking about the same scene ☕)
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
598 messages
joined Jun 2013
#5048 ·
I think Interstellar is great mostly because there’s zero filler. Not a single scene feels out of place or like it could've been cut. For a movie pushing three hours, that's pretty wild.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#5049 ·
vivideagle7 said:Are you really splitting hairs over 🙂

Anyway, did you buy into that whole sequence where they discover the space base and everything leading up to that departure?
GQ was just being dramatic because they wanted to drive home how naive that moment felt (assuming we're even talking about the same scene ☕)

And what else am I supposed to latch onto if not the words themselves? Facial expressions?

vivideagle7 said:Are you really splitting hairs over 🙂

Anyway, did you buy into that whole sequence where they discover the space base and everything leading up to that departure?
GQ was just being dramatic because they wanted to drive home how naive that moment felt (assuming we're even talking about the same scene ☕)


Why on earth would I find that hard to swallow?
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
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joined Jun 2013
#5050 ·
I'm done reading this nonsense, so I'm just gonna tell them straight up that Matthew didn't stumble upon that base by accident.
sry.
Chris Fisher3 Chris Fisher3 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#5051 ·
Jack Murphy5 said:The absolute worst part of Interstellar is that five-minute sequence where some guy has to explain the entire mechanics of space travel to Cooper—the very man who was entrusted with the whole mission. To make matters even more ridiculous, he actually ends up sketching it out on paper at the end. Like, come on. Give me a break.

For me, the worst scene was when that dude met them back on the ship after they left that planet. He’d been up there alone for like 20-something years and said he hadn't slept for ages. But then he greets them like they just popped out to the corner store for milk... zero emotion after all that time. I was expecting some massive breakdown or at least him acting totally unhinged from being isolated for years with nothing but messages from Earth. They completely botched that part—I was sitting there thinking, what the hell? You're really gonna ignore the fact that the guy was alone for a decade...
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
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joined Jun 2013
#5052 ·
I mean, it’s not that hard to believe a guy could go twenty-something years and just... go numb. Like he turned into some kind of robot or just drifted off into deep space. Or maybe he just forgot how to actually deal with people emotionally. Honestly, maybe he just reached enlightenment or whatever. And if I remember right, you could tell he was actually pretty stoked they were back. But again, let's not forget—he spent those twenty-odd years totally alone. He basically tended his own little garden for lifetimes; he’s as calm as a still ocean. That level of chill was actually pretty impressive, even a little intriguing. He was supposed to be out saving the species, but instead, he just sat on that ship for two decades, stuck in limbo. It almost makes sense that he went full Zen. If a guy spends 20+ years in total isolation and doesn't become completely, utterly, undeniably calm, he's an idiot. And this guy didn't look like an idiot to me.
Chris Fisher3 Chris Fisher3 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#5053 ·
Hard to believe—honestly? No. Does it feel sketchy as hell to me? Yeah, absolutely. But look, I’ll be the first to admit I have zero clue what actually happens to a person after spending that many years in total isolation... I don't know what the psych studies even say about it. If being completely checked out is actually a real thing you can expect after all that time, then fine, maybe I'll learn something new about how the human brain works. Might just Google some stuff later before I get too lazy to care...
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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#5054 ·
brightpilot6 said:Look, Cooper is a pilot. Being a pilot doesn't automatically mean you're a PhD in relativity. In a world where people can't wrap their heads around anything, they expect an MTA driver to also be an expert in urban traffic engineering, but that isn't how reality works for the rest of us. The movie itself provides zero logical reason why he should have mastered those specific scientific theories beforehand.

It’s just as unrealistic to assume the average viewer possesses enough specialized knowledge to intuitively understand that a wormhole is essentially a sphere.

Besides, where exactly in the film does it state that he's in charge of the entire operation? If he truly were the one calling all the shots, wouldn't he be the primary decision-maker regarding where the mission goes and where it doesn't?

Good grief, it feels like I'm debating a group of people who haven't even watched the movie, but have instead just scrolled through the comment sections on Reddit.🤣

Jebatelex, anyone who has read a single sci-fi novel or has a passing interest in math already knows stuff like that.
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
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joined Jun 2013
#5055 ·
Chris Fisher3 said:Hard to believe—honestly? No. Does it feel sketchy as hell to me? Yeah, absolutely. But look, I’ll be the first to admit I have zero clue what actually happens to a person after spending that many years in total isolation... I don't know what the psych studies even say about it. If being completely checked out is actually a real thing you can expect after all that time, then fine, maybe I'll learn something new about how the human brain works. Might just Google some stuff later before I get too lazy to care...

Glad you're happy about it. Still surprised though—you're telling me someone spending 20 years alone, just stuck with themselves, ends up perfectly zen? Maybe start Googling now instead of waiting.
Ashley Bailey6 Ashley Bailey6 Active Member
208 messages
joined Jun 2013
#5056 ·
You guys have no clue.

If I were stuck alone in a tiny studio apartment without any internet access, this whole forum would have drifted off into deep space a long time ago.

The chances of someone surviving those conditions for 20 years—or even resisting the urge to go back—are probably less than 1%.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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joined Aug 2015
#5057 ·
vivideagle7 said:Honestly, I’d probably forgive them even if they hadn't included Alien in Prometheus or Max in Mad Max, as long as the actual movie was good.

How many actual new moments or characters have you even encountered?
I'm talking about new creatures, let alone entirely new vehicles.
And then you have the nerve to lecture me about "quality" when you haven't even noticed the most basic innovations!?

Do you honestly think it's easy to build out brand new worlds and refresh core concepts while simultaneously running high-octane, real-time action and adventure?

It’s a massive undertaking, especially since so many tropes are already totally played out. Ridley basically pulled off the smartest, most logical move possible by opening up an entirely new dimension for the whole saga.
Miller is right on his heels too, delivering exactly the kind of stuff you guys are still whining and obsessing over. ☕
James Anderson5 James Anderson5 Regular
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joined Jan 2010
#5058 ·
Noah Roberts46 said:Honestly, I thought his emotional range in John Wick was incredible. He absolutely deserved an Oscar for that look on his face right after his dog died. It’s a total must-win. ☕

Alright, let's be real—has there actually been anything worth watching in the last two years? Because if you ask me, the answer is a resounding yes.

That’s not quite right. The guy used to do this professionally, so it’s obvious he isn't just some random amateur. He knows exactly what he's doing—he's hunting those drones or whatever they are.

That was actually one of the most believable parts of the movie for me. In America, every single guy in the countryside is basically ready to take down a drone or an alien in his backyard after a few beers...
Walter Grant5 Walter Grant5 Regular
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joined Oct 2012
#5059 ·
Jessica Gonzalez said:The story behind The Matrix is just incredible, especially considering it was an entirely original script rather than some adaptation of a book, comic, or whatever else. I guess they unfortunately messed up the sequels by leaning too hard into endless action scenes and melodrama just to please the crowds. The original is definitely one of the most unique films of the modern era. I wouldn't say it's the greatest of all time, nor would I call someone silly for not liking it, but it has qualities I really value: originality, a compelling plot, and a believable world. You could argue Inception is an original film, but conceptually, it feels a bit like a second-rate version of The Matrix. They even seemed to borrow the whole "limbo" idea, which feels like a copy of that space between reality and a computer program. 🤦 for both concepts. I suppose the only thing the other film did better was casting, since Keanu Reeves has about as much acting range as a street lamp.

Look, limbo is its own concept. It doesn't belong to those movies.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#5060 ·
Matthew Young35 said:Jebatelex, anyone who has read a single sci-fi novel or has a passing interest in math already knows stuff like that.

And let’s be honest, that group represents a tiny fraction of the general audience.

By the way, I find myself agreeing with Matthew Anderson4 regarding how Remilly reacted. If he hasn't completely lost his mind—though one might wonder if those sudden disappearances from the conversation were his way of checking out—then a total state of mental numbness seems like the most plausible outcome.

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