Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Matthew Anderson4 said:Ever actually heard Dylan when he sings like a normal person?

The bass line on this track is just top-tier 🙏

graniteheron132 said:🤣 Gotta wash away that bad taste next week. Doing a guys' night at AMC with the legendary Tom Hanks. 😒

And man, that is hands down the most savage review I've ever read. 🤣

That sounds like a solid plan, though I was honestly hoping that even *Child 44* would be at least somewhat watchable, but apparently not...
Tomica is going to kill it, everyone knows that

I’m with you—these new Batman movies just don't hit the same. Like, technically? They’re solid. Everything works, the style is polished... but it feels more like solving an equation than watching a movie. The whole structure is just way too forced. That seems to be the problem with most modern blockbusters lately...

I mean, there shouldn't be a point where you can boil the entire movie down to a couple of pages of an essay... In this case, they basically turned the Odyssey into some space alien story 🤦

But even if that's not the only issue, it's still a good film—it's just, why bother with the superhero costumes and the sci-fi action nonsense? If you strip all that away, the movie is actually twice as good. It would totally redefine Batman and the whole genre. Seriously. Like Walter Grant5 said, the whole concept is just off base.

The Burton Batmans were legendary—that mix of fantasy, noir, gothic vibes, kitsch, morbidity, pure madness... just a total visual feast 🙏

Tim Burton’s Batman movies are total junk. I mean, seriously, you can't go out looking like you're rocking a bright yellow utility belt

Walter Grant5 said:Man, why do you act like you're some logic god and everyone else is clueless? Since when did you become the ultimate authority on what makes sense?

I know I am.

But honestly, we’ve drifted so far from discussing "paradoxical logic" into these incredibly trivial details that I find it almost laughable to continue arguing about what constitutes an illogical point. Especially when I consider that metric you were leaning on earlier. Cheers.

Matthew Young35 said:Dylan’s rendition of All Along the Watchtower is hands down the definitive version. As for Like a Rolling Stone? It’s a tougher call; frankly, most covers of that track just miss the mark entirely.

Look, Dylan’s version is fine, sure, but it’s kind of one-dimensional. It's like eating plain crackers. Jimi came along and added some actual flavor to it, gave it those extra two dimensions it was missing. ☕

brightpilot6 said:I know I am.

But honestly, we’ve drifted so far from discussing "paradoxical logic" into these incredibly trivial details that I find it almost laughable to continue arguing about what constitutes an illogical point. Especially when I consider that metric you were leaning on earlier. Cheers.

Anyone actually using logic wouldn't even bother saying that sentence.

Look, we went from talking about "paradoxical logic" straight down to these mindless little details, and honestly, it's just too ridiculous to keep arguing about how illogical this is. Especially considering the standard you were using before. Peace out.

See where this ends up...

Man, what can I even say. Just whatever.

Tim Burton actually managed to pull off two decent films—Corpse Bride and Ed Wood—but everything else he touches is just empty stylistic indulgence designed to mask Johnny Depp’s complete lack of actual acting talent.
He used to be the darling of the indie scene, but honestly, even someone like Wes Anderson produces more meaningful work these days than what we get from him.

Most of you are quite exhausting...

Classic Bob Sinclair vibes...

Nolan’s take on Batman actually starts with an interesting premise: how do you actually drop larger-than-life characters like Batman and the Joker into a gritty, grounded reality? I still think you could pull that off in a city like Chicago or New York, but I don't think Nolan quite nailed it. Honestly, it feels like he just lacked the creative spark or the sheer intellect to make it work.

The first movie is just plain boring. The second one is decent enough, but the Joker doesn't really have a coherent motivation; he's just pure chaos for the sake of chaos—which works, sure, but it feels inconsistent with everything else. As for the third one? It feels like the script was written by someone on a heavy psychedelic trip; nothing about it makes sense.

Now, Burton’s Batman movies? At least they leaned into a stylized, vibrant world filled with eccentric characters and that classic Prince soundtrack. Total approval from me. ☕

ruggedjackal46 said:Nolan’s take on Batman actually starts with an interesting premise: how do you actually drop larger-than-life characters like Batman and the Joker into a gritty, grounded reality? I still think you could pull that off in a city like Chicago or New York, but I don't think Nolan quite nailed it. Honestly, it feels like he just lacked the creative spark or the sheer intellect to make it work.

The first movie is just plain boring. The second one is decent enough, but the Joker doesn't really have a coherent motivation; he's just pure chaos for the sake of chaos—which works, sure, but it feels inconsistent with everything else. As for the third one? It feels like the script was written by someone on a heavy psychedelic trip; nothing about it makes sense.

Now, Burton’s Batman movies? At least they leaned into a stylized, vibrant world filled with eccentric characters and that classic Prince soundtrack. Total approval from me. ☕

So wait, you're telling me the movie that actually gives you deep characterization and a realistic reason for why things are happening is "boring," but the second one, which just jumps headfirst into the action without any real motivation, is somehow "good"??

wtf

Peter Thompson4 said:So wait, you're telling me the movie that actually gives you deep characterization and a realistic reason for why things are happening is "boring," but the second one, which just jumps headfirst into the action without any real motivation, is somehow "good"??

wtf

The first one is just—plainly boring. Why should I care about realistic motivations if the characters themselves aren't even interesting?

And besides, the second movie isn't just mindless action.

Walter Grant5 said:Anyone actually using logic wouldn't even bother saying that sentence.

Look, we went from talking about "paradoxical logic" straight down to these mindless little details, and honestly, it's just too ridiculous to keep arguing about how illogical this is. Especially considering the standard you were using before. Peace out.

See where this ends up...

Man, what can I even say. Just whatever.

🐔

here it is, finally cooling off

Robin Fox2, come on, give us the little guys something to work with here...

Still don't get why that whole movie list is being called hipster nonsense. 🤷

Because, let’s be honest, playing it safe usually sounds incredibly tedious.

So, did any of you guys catch that massive scandal involving the Panama Papers?

Matthew Anderson4 said:Oh, for sure. If you look at the pieces individually, Dylan's strength is strictly songwriting and melody. You won't find him on any "Top Vocalists" or "Top Guitarists" lists. But that doesn't touch his legacy. Nobody's claiming he's a virtuoso. The idea that he's the greatest solo artist in modern music is basically an axiom at this point. He earned that spot. (Where are all those mediocre players who actually had better technique but zero impact?) Great artists have always been storytellers. From Homer to now, it's the same thing. Dylan is a storyteller; the music is just the vehicle. And what a storyteller. His influence reaches way beyond just music. There hasn't been an American artist in the last 50 years who hasn't admitted being inspired by him. When you break him down into parts, you see the magic: the whole is way greater than the sum of its parts. That’s the wild part. Even if he isn't a top-tier guitarist or singer compared to his peers, the sheer quality of his body of work puts him right up there with the Beatles. It makes sense when you think about him stating he sold his soul to the devil. Dylan is sitting way up in the pantheon of true greats.

Look, I just can't get behind that. Music isn't just some "tool"—it’s at least as important as the lyrics, if you ask me... actually, it's more important. What about all the instrumental symphonies? Classical, jazz, folk, rock...

By your "formula," guys like Mozart, Bach, Haydn, Beethoven & stuff wouldn't even count as great artists—even though people were writing full symphonies for orchestras and scores for fifty different instruments. You basically can't even compose that stuff unless you have perfect pitch...

Matthew Anderson4 said:Still don't get why that whole movie list is being called hipster nonsense. 🤷

The thing about hipsters is that they make everything look so incredibly simple...