Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Back to what was being said on the previous page—Congressmen aren't even showing up to work from now until June 1st. Real productive stuff from the opposition, clearly. I read that there were barely 20 of them around yesterday.

Don't give me that crap. These losers won't lift a finger, yet they still want to pull in a $13,000 paycheck. That's the whole deal right there.

They aren't trash, they're just smarter than everyone else. Everyone's looking for the easiest way to make the most money... It's honestly foolish when people keep voting for
even though they do absolutely nothing every four years...

James Anderson5 said:They aren't trash, they're just smarter than everyone else. Everyone's looking for the easiest way to make the most money... It's honestly foolish when people keep voting for
even though they do absolutely nothing every four years...

That's basically it.

It’s much like how people are too busy chasing some idealistic "right to live" while they're actually just scavenging through dumpsters for an extra soda or a discarded sandwich.

Even if they were actually smarter, it doesn't change the fact that they're total garbage

They aren't even smarter. They’re just careerists with zero shame. It’s easy to act "brilliant" when you’re flying solo or tucked away in a tiny clique. Meanwhile, the masses just get in the way of actually making a difference. As a crowd, we're clueless. People call us a stupid nation. But look, politicians come from the people—they’re just a concentrated, smaller version of the voters themselves. There’s no moral code. They’d screw over their own neighbors, cheat a customer out of a few pounds at a grocery store, open a business while dodging every tax bill, refuse to pay their staff, and then preach about patriotism while exploiting workers for $833... So why act surprised when someone comes along tomorrow asking for a handout from a company that has nothing to do with them?

It isn't that "they" are smarter; it's just that some people are straight-up trash, plain and simple. A decent person is naturally tolerant and merciful. But the ones who actually save us are the good people who refuse to be tolerant toward trash.

Walter Grant5 said:They aren't even smarter. They’re just careerists with zero shame. It’s easy to act "brilliant" when you’re flying solo or tucked away in a tiny clique. Meanwhile, the masses just get in the way of actually making a difference. As a crowd, we're clueless. People call us a stupid nation. But look, politicians come from the people—they’re just a concentrated, smaller version of the voters themselves. There’s no moral code. They’d screw over their own neighbors, cheat a customer out of a few pounds at a grocery store, open a business while dodging every tax bill, refuse to pay their staff, and then preach about patriotism while exploiting workers for $833... So why act surprised when someone comes along tomorrow asking for a handout from a company that has nothing to do with them?

It isn't that "they" are smarter; it's just that some people are straight-up trash, plain and simple. A decent person is naturally tolerant and merciful. But the ones who actually save us are the good people who refuse to be tolerant toward trash.

You're just as much "trash" to someone else as they are to you. It's so easy to act like you're the center of the universe and lecture everyone else about society using all these fancy-sounding terms... But what even defines being "good" or "merciful"? Who gets to decide how to measure or label that?

Even things we call "socially acceptable" or "desirable" in this country don't mean they're actually ethical. History is nothing but a massive graveyard filled with the victims of "socially acceptable" mob justice.

What are you even on about?

We’re talking pure, double existential metrics here. I'm not interested in debating those "modern" political ideologies just so we can play pros and cons.

People spent the whole week leading up to June 1st obsessing over political drama and internal scandals, but now that the administration is actually set, they're just tripping over their own feet. They show up to work like they haven't been sitting on a four-month backlog of unpaid wages from $833, yet they're pulling in 17 or 18 grand. It’s straight-up self-serving, bottom-feeding nonsense. What part of that are you even talking about?

A picture of the society we live in—nothing more, nothing less. The problem isn't just the individual who thinks they can act like this... it's the entire culture that actually puts up with it.
This kind of behavior has been getting a free pass here for years, which is really just a perfect reflection of the mess we live in...

Larry Fox5 said:A picture of the society we live in—nothing more, nothing less. The problem isn't just the individual who thinks they can act like this... it's the entire culture that actually puts up with it.
This kind of behavior has been getting a free pass here for years, which is really just a perfect reflection of the mess we live in...

An individual is also trash when abuse is the norm. And let's be real, it’s always the norm. No, he's "innocent" while society turns a blind eye, so the collective is to blame. Sure, why not.

People have been making fun of this behavior here for years, but honestly, it’s just a clear reflection of the culture we're stuck in.

And what did I say? That it stems from society. That's it.

Larry Fox5 said:You're just as much "trash" to someone else as they are to you. It's so easy to act like you're the center of the universe and lecture everyone else about society using all these fancy-sounding terms... But what even defines being "good" or "merciful"? Who gets to decide how to measure or label that?

Even things we call "socially acceptable" or "desirable" in this country don't mean they're actually ethical. History is nothing but a massive graveyard filled with the victims of "socially acceptable" mob justice.

Personally, I think when we're talking about an official abusing their power to embezzle massive amounts of taxpayer money, determining the standard for "goodness" becomes pretty straightforward.

At least we aren't alone. The folks living just southeast of us are even worse. 😁

Larry Fox5 said:A picture of the society we live in—nothing more, nothing less. The problem isn't just the individual who thinks they can act like this... it's the entire culture that actually puts up with it.
This kind of behavior has been getting a free pass here for years, which is really just a perfect reflection of the mess we live in...

I don't agree with you one bit, honestly. At the end of the day, every single person is responsible for their own actions, and the way you carry yourself and the choices you make are a direct reflection of who you actually are. If you're a complete piece of trash, you're going to exploit every single loophole in the legal system just to steal whatever you can, looking out for nothing but your own pocketbook—and usually, it's not even about making an honest living, it's about ripping everyone else off too.
If you can't build something from the ground up and instead rely on a bunch of "friends" plus a massive pile of shady, unethical bullshit, then you're just a huge jerk through and through.

You don't need to be some genius to steal a fuel tank during wartime and sell the gas; if anything, it takes a special kind of stupid and irrational person to pull stuff like that.

Screw money when there's a massive toll on human lives hanging over your head. If someone is comfortable living like that, fine, go ahead, but just stay as far away from me as possible.

Peter Thompson4 said:I don't agree with you one bit, honestly. At the end of the day, every single person is responsible for their own actions, and the way you carry yourself and the choices you make are a direct reflection of who you actually are. If you're a complete piece of trash, you're going to exploit every single loophole in the legal system just to steal whatever you can, looking out for nothing but your own pocketbook—and usually, it's not even about making an honest living, it's about ripping everyone else off too.
If you can't build something from the ground up and instead rely on a bunch of "friends" plus a massive pile of shady, unethical bullshit, then you're just a huge jerk through and through.

You don't need to be some genius to steal a fuel tank during wartime and sell the gas; if anything, it takes a special kind of stupid and irrational person to pull stuff like that.

Screw money when there's a massive toll on human lives hanging over your head. If someone is comfortable living like that, fine, go ahead, but just stay as far away from me as possible.

I'm right there with you on that, but seriously, how many little thieves are actually embedded in our society? Between fraudulent pensions, disability scams, and people coasting through government jobs thanks to connections... those are the folks who will fight tooth and nail to make sure nothing ever changes.

Don't forget that there are over 400,000 people working in the broader public sector. Once you factor in everyone employed by major state-owned corporations or companies where the government holds a massive stake, that number climbs to nearly 600,000, if I remember those recent stats correctly.

Now, just look at all the private contractors that survive solely because they win rigged government bids, along with their entire staff, and you'll see why a huge chunk of these people are terrified of any real reform.

That's why I don't think we'll see any real change anytime soon. It's incredibly hard to build enough momentum for significant reform, especially when you have a segment of the population more interested in arguing over historical grievances than looking toward the future...

James Anderson5 said:I'm right there with you on that, but seriously, how many little thieves are actually embedded in our society? Between fraudulent pensions, disability scams, and people coasting through government jobs thanks to connections... those are the folks who will fight tooth and nail to make sure nothing ever changes.

Don't forget that there are over 400,000 people working in the broader public sector. Once you factor in everyone employed by major state-owned corporations or companies where the government holds a massive stake, that number climbs to nearly 600,000, if I remember those recent stats correctly.

Now, just look at all the private contractors that survive solely because they win rigged government bids, along with their entire staff, and you'll see why a huge chunk of these people are terrified of any real reform.

That's why I don't think we'll see any real change anytime soon. It's incredibly hard to build enough momentum for significant reform, especially when you have a segment of the population more interested in arguing over historical grievances than looking toward the future...

Exactly, that is the heart of the whole mess right there. There aren't enough people actually outside the system. I get why people do it—they want to fight for anything, shoving their kids into any available slot just to have a paycheck—but the real issue is that half these people aren't even doing a damn thing; they're just line items on a budget. I personally know a couple of families where every single person works for the same state agency, the entire damn family from aunts to cousins, for god's sake; it's statistically impossible for them all to be that qualified, or look at the facts—we have more employees at the DMV than some medium-sized European country does!

Man, what we really need is some outsider who actually loves America but has enough personal wealth to stay untouchable and doesn't *have* to steal just to survive, which obviously sounds like a total fairy tale.

And honestly, we need people to start having some backbone again, because there are so many spineless cowards in this society today that it’s actually pathetic. No pride, no self-respect, or whatever the hell else—just step on whoever you need to in order to get ahead.

I'm trying to picture an argument with this one:

Unbelievable—this morning on the local Los Angeles radio station, they played that song by Dua Lipa, "Levitating," but they edited out the part that mentions the old union. Unbelievable 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏

did it ever cross your mind to join the EU?

Gregory Chavez said:Unbelievable—this morning on the local Los Angeles radio station, they played that song by Dua Lipa, "Levitating," but they edited out the part that mentions the old union. Unbelievable 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙏

Nobody cares about the old regime anymore.☕

The whole country feels like total chaos right now... it’s like having a manager like Rafa Benitez running the show instead of someone steady like a real leader

So, who’s actually going to be the next American Zidane—some young phenom ready to take over? I’m putting my money on Jandroković.