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Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
ruggedjackal46 ruggedjackal46 Regular
775 messages
joined May 2007
#8941 ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:Good heavens above,🙏🙏
I really have to hand it to these girls, much like those various flame specialists and welders😁..
It's hard to believe anyone would still claim these people lack intellect or vision, because what we're seeing here is nothing short of brilliant.🤣

I’m struggling to make sense of this roster. A huge chunk of these organizations aren't even based here in the States, half of them aren't even official non-profits, most of them don't lean left, they're all doing completely different things, and quite a few of them don't even receive a single cent of federal funding.
Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
440 messages
joined Oct 2017
#8942 ·
ruggedjackal46 said:I’m struggling to make sense of this roster. A huge chunk of these organizations aren't even based here in the States, half of them aren't even official non-profits, most of them don't lean left, they're all doing completely different things, and quite a few of them don't even receive a single cent of federal funding.

Oh, they're getting paid, believe me! 😉

Can you even imagine what kind of group of parasites 🙏
bluebison10 bluebison10 Member
47 messages
joined Jul 2009
#8943 ·
Just a little taste of that deep South mentality.--..
I know a guy who went to a college buddy's wedding. His friend's uncle, who’s lived in Germany for over 30 years and has three sons, hosted him. On the wedding day, the guy asks if they have a brush and some polish so he can clean his shoes. Without missing a beat, the uncle snaps back, "Goodness, what is my wife supposed to do then?"

It honestly makes me wonder how someone like Hillary Clinton ever managed to get elected President....
loneseal loneseal Active Member
141 messages
joined Mar 2020
#8944 ·
I’m originally from the South, and after everything I went through during the war, I ended up settling here in Chicago. Honestly? I’ll say it: women down in the Deep South are way more satisfied—with their husbands, anyway—than the ones you find up here in the Windy City. ☕
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#8945 ·
bluebison10 said:Just a little taste of that deep South mentality.--..
I know a guy who went to a college buddy's wedding. His friend's uncle, who’s lived in Germany for over 30 years and has three sons, hosted him. On the wedding day, the guy asks if they have a brush and some polish so he can clean his shoes. Without missing a beat, the uncle snaps back, "Goodness, what is my wife supposed to do then?"

It honestly makes me wonder how someone like Hillary Clinton ever managed to get elected President....

How did women even fall for that stuff? Nobody forced them into marriage at gunpoint. It drives me crazy seeing people constantly looking for accountability in everyone else while dodging it themselves.

It's basically the perfect snapshot of modern Western society.
Sandra Johnson58 Sandra Johnson58 Active Member
125 messages
joined Apr 2019
#8946 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:How did women even fall for that stuff? Nobody forced them into marriage at gunpoint. It drives me crazy seeing people constantly looking for accountability in everyone else while dodging it themselves.

It's basically the perfect snapshot of modern Western society.

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Justin James10 Justin James10 Regular
440 messages
joined Oct 2017
#8947 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:How did women even fall for that stuff? Nobody forced them into marriage at gunpoint. It drives me crazy seeing people constantly looking for accountability in everyone else while dodging it themselves.

It's basically the perfect snapshot of modern Western society.

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Wouldn't it be refreshing if we actually prioritized some personal responsibility for once?
darkseal9 darkseal9 Active Member
171 messages
joined Jan 2017
#8948 ·
Honestly, who cares about any of that now? Once the first woman went full smooth, the game changed completely. We should’ve just gone all in on the grit back then, but man, we missed our window.
Morgan Foster Morgan Foster Active Member
59 messages
joined Nov 2012
#8949 ·
ruggedjackal46 said:Everyone was predicting total collapse, yet somehow they bounced back pretty well. And honestly, I don't see how things could have gone any better for the public if they had used their own money to bail out failing banks. Wouldn't that have been the ultimate belt-tightening?

Take the mortgage holders back then—overnight, people found themselves facing double the debt because property values plummeted... essentially. The government steps in just to prevent a massive wave of bankruptcies among citizens who took out loans. We shouldn't build this myth about Iceland... Their politicians are also quite "creative" when it comes to pulling money from pockets—and when that fails, they just devalue the currency and pose for photos again.

Where does the state even get the funds to stop an epic national catastrophe? They start with IMF emergency loans, but ultimately, they're forced to invent new taxes or hike existing ones—which, predictably, the citizens end up paying. Inflation was used as a tool to wipe out part of the debt and boost domestic exports, but on the flip side, it stripped away what the average person had built for themselves.

The UK compensated its citizens and turned its attention toward Iceland. Since those banks were private entities, the British authorities didn't really care. Citizens tried to block the debt repayment through a referendum, but the government eventually had to pass legislation ensuring the money went back to the Brits and other foreign investors—to everyone's mutual satisfaction. Not that the British are known for empathy, of course... They certainly aren't known for being bullied into letting competitors clear the market.

Debt forgiveness is like a chain reaction. You forgive it once, you have to forgive it for everyone—otherwise, you lose all credibility in the international markets. That's a luxury something like a member of the EU simply can't afford... there are too many sharks circling that market.

Irresponsible bankers need to face justice—there's no debate there. But part of the problem lies with the states themselves. They are the ones guaranteeing stability, securing the currency, regulating, incentivizing, and so on. The average citizen will always be the one getting squeezed, because they can. In the end, it all boils down to the same thing—it's not that the situation is bad, it's just that the system failed itself...
Jonathan Barnes5 Jonathan Barnes5 Active Member
191 messages
joined Jul 2018
#8950 ·
ruggedjackal46 said:I’m struggling to make sense of this roster. A huge chunk of these organizations aren't even based here in the States, half of them aren't even official non-profits, most of them don't lean left, they're all doing completely different things, and quite a few of them don't even receive a single cent of federal funding.

It doesn't really matter whether they lean left or right, or what specific niche they occupy. I am just as convinced that anyone can secure these funds because getting a hold of this list is relatively straightforward. The reason I find this so jarring is actually quite simple: you could just invent a name like "Guerrilla Girls"—which sounds incredibly juvenile, if you ask me🤣—toss a few vague objectives into a mission statement, and suddenly the money starts flowing.
It works exactly the same way if you call yourselves the "Guardians of Seventh-Century National Monuments" and suddenly there's a check waiting for you. Meanwhile, everyone on this forum is busy debating who gets more funding or whether progress comes from the left or the right🤦 🤣...
It is difficult to feel much affection for a government that functions this way, acting like a chaotic collection of nebulous administrative entries where nobody seems to have the public's best interests at heart.
Think of it like this: in a vast ocean of various special interest groups, there are undoubtedly both liberal and conservative organizations that genuinely want to improve this country and act constructively, spending their grants on meaningful activities for the common good. However, it’s impossible for those sincere groups to stay afloat when you see how many others have crowded into that space and what kind of public image they project.
Once the 2017 audit from our local watchdog group is released, we will see how many legitimate organizations the government actually supports versus how much is being funneled toward groups like the "Guerrilla Girls"🤣... it’s the kind of name a twelve-year-old gamer would come up with, claiming gaming existed back in 1982 after watching a few outdated documentaries.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#8951 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:How did women even fall for that stuff? Nobody forced them into marriage at gunpoint. It drives me crazy seeing people constantly looking for accountability in everyone else while dodging it themselves.

It's basically the perfect snapshot of modern Western society.

Look, if you find yourself getting mugged on a Saturday night, or if you wrap your car around a pole in the middle of a sunny afternoon because you weren't paying attention, you can't really act surprised. You knew the risks were there; all the warning signs were staring you right in the face.

And yet, you still head out to the local dive bar for a few rounds, or you decide to drive to work after a heavy night. Then, predictably, you're the one calling 911 or demanding that your insurance provider cuts a check to cover the fallout.

That’s just the way things work in the West.
ironpanther5 ironpanther5 Active Member
235 messages
joined Mar 2019
#8952 ·
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I mean, they’re probably dreaming up some perfect, utopian society in their heads, so I guess they don't have anything to worry about. 😁
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#8953 ·
ironpanther5 said:Oh, thank you so much for ensuring America didn't burn to the ground or for making sure the blind aren't just left sobbing on the floor. Truly, we owe it all to you.

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#splitcityprices #americaburns #feelinginvisible #blindandvisuallyimpaired #islandlife #nonprofitsector #civilsociety #goodbyeexpensive #howtobelivewithouthelp #giveusabreak #titonowhereverystudentcomesfrom

Is there actually a single veterans' organization included on this list? Or did you, in your infinite objectivity, decide to only feature these old-school Marxist-fascist types?

Does anyone actually know how much taxpayer money these anti-American elements pull in annually? Is there any concrete figure out there?
ironpanther5 ironpanther5 Active Member
235 messages
joined Mar 2019
#8954 ·
loneseal said:I’m originally from the South, and after everything I went through during the war, I ended up settling here in Chicago. Honestly? I’ll say it: women down in the Deep South are way more satisfied—with their husbands, anyway—than the ones you find up here in the Windy City. ☕

My old man is from the South too, and if I’ve learned anything, it’s that people down there are just generally happier with life because everything moves at a slower pace—you don't have that constant, soul-crushing level of stress you find in places like NYC. It feels like living in a smaller town is actually built for human beings, unlike these massive metropolitan hubs. Especially when you look at other countries where even the small towns have more going on than we do here.
As for the women, though, I’m not so sure; if our women give an inch, Southern women basically take a mile. It’s true they often run the show, even if no Southern man would ever openly admit that while sitting on his porch, though that isn't always the case.
I should probably mention this story my aunt told me about how, back in the rural South, there used to be this custom where you’d basically kidnap a girl you liked, force yourself on her, and then you were legally obligated to marry her. They used to call it "taking her away." 😲
Because of all that, families used to be incredibly protective of their beautiful daughters whenever they went out to work the fields, since there was always some eager suitor looking for an excuse to seal the deal with marriage.
When she was telling me 😲
And we’re talking about the fifties here. I actually read an article recently suggesting that similar traditions still persist in parts of Turkey, so you can draw your own conclusions.
ironpanther5 ironpanther5 Active Member
235 messages
joined Mar 2019
#8955 ·
brightpilot6 said:Is there actually a single veterans' organization included on this list? Or did you, in your infinite objectivity, decide to only feature these old-school Marxist-fascist types?

Does anyone actually know how much taxpayer money these anti-American elements pull in annually? Is there any concrete figure out there?

Look, I have nothing but pure respect for our veterans, truly, but that doesn't mean I think we should be handing them shares in ExxonMobil, AT&T, or Duke Energy, or just dumping cash into some specialized lobbyist group. Major props to the brave souls who fought for us—for our country, our towns, our kids, and our families—but I don't see any reason why we should be footing the bill for them, whether they were volunteers or active duty; they weren't mercenaries.

I’ve never been a fan of special interest groups getting all the perks, because when they hog the resources, there's nothing left for the people who actually need it, like the sick, the disabled, or struggling students.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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joined Oct 2012
#8956 ·
I would honestly expect to find these figures within three clicks on some government website, but apparently, that’s too much to ask. It’s 2018, yet the only thing remotely resembling an official report is a dusty file from 2014.

And frankly, I can't say I'm surprised, given how much shady business seems to go on behind the scenes in this corrupt administration.🤦
ironpanther5 ironpanther5 Active Member
235 messages
joined Mar 2019
#8957 ·
brightpilot6 said:I would honestly expect to find these figures within three clicks on some government website, but apparently, that’s too much to ask. It’s 2018, yet the only thing remotely resembling an official report is a dusty file from 2014.

And frankly, I can't say I'm surprised, given how much shady business seems to go on behind the scenes in this corrupt administration.🤦

Yeah, tell me about it, I spent way too much time looking for this myself. 😁 Just keep hoping. Plus, a huge chunk of the cash flows through local municipal budgets and a mountain of different grants, so trying to track everything down with total transparency is basically a fool's errand.

EDIT: My first instinct was to check how much money the Church actually pulls in, since ruggedjack46 or someone else mentioned a figure in the billions. I stumbled upon an article from a liberal news site—something like CNN or maybe MSNBC, feels like that vibe. It wasn't that I felt any burning need to defend the clergy or anything, but I figured I’d better see what the actual numbers looked like before making a scene, only to see a headline screaming, "The Church received a billion from the federal government." I thought, "Are you kidding me? They really are pulling that kind of dough," but then I click the link and realize it turns out they received that amount over the last three years combined based on an audit (we're talking roughly $280 million, $390 million, $330 million, give or take). It’s still a massive, ridiculous amount, but it isn't a billion, so I told myself I had to double-check the math so I wouldn't look like an idiot. Then I see they also grab another $230 million for religious instructors, and suddenly everyone's making excuses that it's not just their people, but even those Marxism professors who teach religion would be out of a job otherwise. On top of that, there are tens of millions more for church renovations, building new parishes, and maintenance for historical sites—which, okay, fine, makes some sense if you consider it heritage preservation. By the end of it, you're easily looking at $700 million, not even counting the extra billion Matthew Young35 mentioned regarding various associations. At the end of the day, it's coming straight out of our pockets.
Supposedly the Vatican gets 600, but nominally they receive less, though those other transfers bump the total up significantly. I have no clue what exactly is tucked away in those Vatican accounts.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#8958 ·
ironpanther5 said:Yeah, tell me about it, I spent way too much time looking for this myself. 😁 Just keep hoping. Plus, a huge chunk of the cash flows through local municipal budgets and a mountain of different grants, so trying to track everything down with total transparency is basically a fool's errand.

EDIT: My first instinct was to check how much money the Church actually pulls in, since ruggedjack46 or someone else mentioned a figure in the billions. I stumbled upon an article from a liberal news site—something like CNN or maybe MSNBC, feels like that vibe. It wasn't that I felt any burning need to defend the clergy or anything, but I figured I’d better see what the actual numbers looked like before making a scene, only to see a headline screaming, "The Church received a billion from the federal government." I thought, "Are you kidding me? They really are pulling that kind of dough," but then I click the link and realize it turns out they received that amount over the last three years combined based on an audit (we're talking roughly $280 million, $390 million, $330 million, give or take). It’s still a massive, ridiculous amount, but it isn't a billion, so I told myself I had to double-check the math so I wouldn't look like an idiot. Then I see they also grab another $230 million for religious instructors, and suddenly everyone's making excuses that it's not just their people, but even those Marxism professors who teach religion would be out of a job otherwise. On top of that, there are tens of millions more for church renovations, building new parishes, and maintenance for historical sites—which, okay, fine, makes some sense if you consider it heritage preservation. By the end of it, you're easily looking at $700 million, not even counting the extra billion Matthew Young35 mentioned regarding various associations. At the end of the day, it's coming straight out of our pockets.
Supposedly the Vatican gets 600, but nominally they receive less, though those other transfers bump the total up significantly. I have no clue what exactly is tucked away in those Vatican accounts.

Exactly, and quite a significant portion at that. Not to mention all the donations coming in from federal agencies and major corporations like JPMorgan Chase.

At the end of the day, none of them give a damn about any of it.
loneseal loneseal Active Member
141 messages
joined Mar 2020
#8959 ·
The money should go to the churches and the veterans, not those anti-American hate groups. ☕
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
571 messages
joined Apr 2019
#8960 ·
brightpilot6 said:Look, if you find yourself getting mugged on a Saturday night, or if you wrap your car around a pole in the middle of a sunny afternoon because you weren't paying attention, you can't really act surprised. You knew the risks were there; all the warning signs were staring you right in the face.

And yet, you still head out to the local dive bar for a few rounds, or you decide to drive to work after a heavy night. Then, predictably, you're the one calling 911 or demanding that your insurance provider cuts a check to cover the fallout.

That’s just the way things work in the West.

Yeah, whatever, it's all the same nonsense, no real difference at all.

Here’s a prime candidate for a "Darwin Award" contender for 2019, or maybe just someone looking to get some serious kidney stones from all that stress when the time comes.

But hey, he looooooooves me 🙂 🤣

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