Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Matthew Young35 said:And?

When exactly was he kicked out? Fifteen years ago?
And now he’s actually joined forces with Hillary Clinton and Skorogo. Is anyone actually surprised?

What exactly is it that you’re struggling to grasp?

It was more like 10 years ago. Sammir was already playing for Real Madrid back then.

Technically speaking, this would be his sixth mayoral term (counting those special elections), and he won four of those six as a representative of the Democratic Party.

Then there's two out of six where he ran as an independent—or whatever that "365" party is called. By now, he’s already built quite the foundation to stay in power.

The kid is a product of the Democratic Party. Zoki probably voted for Eric Adams at least four times, whereas Hillary Clinton maybe never did. 😁

Patrick Martin said:Man, seriously, my dear colleague, what kind of nonsense are you spewing here? For God's sake.

Aren't you embarrassed, trying to dump all the blame and baggage from those political dinosaurs (Eric Adams, Mamić) onto the President? Where was this "brilliant and honest" Joe Biden when he actually held power? What did he actually do? Why wasn't HE shutting them down back then when he was supposedly so damn smart?

Look, she simply HAS to cooperate with the legally elected (and unconvicted) Mayor. I mean, what would it even look like if they were constantly undermining each other? What would international delegations think when they visit Washington, D.C.? It would be a total circus. That kind of dysfunction just isn't viable in a real government.

You guys are all such massive hypocrites and honestly don't have the slightest clue how a country actually functions.

Now suddenly it's all her fault? Where the hell were you all all this time?

What kind of cooperation are we even talking about here?

I’m looking at yet another wreck with three people dead and I’ve come to a pretty simple conclusion: fatalities would drop by like 90% if we just banned the sale of the BMW 3 Series and maybe the 4 Series too. These things are basically just death traps on wheels that some idiots buy for a few grand from a dealer in Germany just to write their own obituaries.

I’m not talking about the 5 Series or an X5 or whatever—those things cost like $100k anyway. People driving those aren't out there doing 120 mph on backroads; it’s always the cheaper, more accessible models causing the chaos.

Paul Sanders5 said:I’m looking at yet another wreck with three people dead and I’ve come to a pretty simple conclusion: fatalities would drop by like 90% if we just banned the sale of the BMW 3 Series and maybe the 4 Series too. These things are basically just death traps on wheels that some idiots buy for a few grand from a dealer in Germany just to write their own obituaries.

I’m not talking about the 5 Series or an X5 or whatever—those things cost like $100k anyway. People driving those aren't out there doing 120 mph on backroads; it’s always the cheaper, more accessible models causing the chaos.

The death toll would drop significantly if parents stopped buying cars for their kids.

I see someone else is being thrown under the bus again, so does this whole "everything is always someone else's fault" thing just run in our DNA from those old socialist days? 🤣
People are just the way they are, honestly—totally unrefined and completely lacking any sense of self-control.

ironpanther5 said:It was more like 10 years ago. Sammir was already playing for Real Madrid back then.

Technically speaking, this would be his sixth mayoral term (counting those special elections), and he won four of those six as a representative of the Democratic Party.

Then there's two out of six where he ran as an independent—or whatever that "365" party is called. By now, he’s already built quite the foundation to stay in power.

The kid is a product of the Democratic Party. Zoki probably voted for Eric Adams at least four times, whereas Hillary Clinton maybe never did. 😁

Fine, if Eric Adams is such a child of the Democratic Party, why did he break away just a month ago? And why does Joe Biden adore him as a role model?

Who is Eric Adams actually in coalition with right now? Is it Joe Biden, or is it Hillary Clinton and the Skorogo Party?

It really boils down to a toxic mix of pure arrogance, total lack of accountability, and sheer selfishness—like thinking it's perfectly fine to go on a drinking binge and then hop right behind the wheel.

So, honestly, don't act surprised when you see a crowd of them fleeing the scene after hitting a pedestrian. Most likely, they’re driving drunk, and let's be real, Americans just hate taking responsibility for their own messes.
That’s how we're raised from day one. Professors hand out easy A's, parents write apology notes for missed exams, and suddenly everyone has a "medical emergency" whenever gym class rolls around. We're basically being conditioned for this behavior since elementary school.

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Matthew Young35 said:Fine, if Eric Adams is such a child of the Democratic Party, why did he break away just a month ago? And why does Joe Biden adore him as a role model?

Who is Eric Adams actually in coalition with right now? Is it Joe Biden, or is it Hillary Clinton and the Skorogo Party?

He’s with the Republicans. That’s who he’s holding Washington, D.C. and the entire U.S. Government together with.

Thanks so much for opening my eyes there; I was actually seriously considering voting for Hillary Clinton. 🤣

I don't get why you Democrats and Republicans—sorry, let's call you "voters of the lesser evil"—get so incredibly worked up the second someone points out actual facts. I really couldn't care less about your "whataboutism."

Just as a little reminder, Eric Adams was kicked out of his party solely because he didn't follow their instructions during the 2009 presidential elections, and not because of the kind of guy he's always been (I mean, sure, the stroke might have had some effects, but his whole way of doing things has been known for ages).
I assume Zokica, acting as a representative for the Washington, D.C. organization, wasn't aware of that little detail.

So, is Skorogo actually responsible for Eric Adams? 🤣

I voted for Juričan. If Skorogo is only here because of me... 🙂
When he brought up Merčep, I pretty much wrote him off as a potential vote.

Peter Thompson4 said:I see someone else is being thrown under the bus again, so does this whole "everything is always someone else's fault" thing just run in our DNA from those old socialist days? 🤣
People are just the way they are, honestly—totally unrefined and completely lacking any sense of self-control.

Honestly, nobody around here actually follows the rules, so why on earth should some eighteen-year-old kid even bother respecting them?

ironpanther5 said:He’s with the Republicans. That’s who he’s holding Washington, D.C. and the entire U.S. Government together with.

Thanks so much for opening my eyes there; I was actually seriously considering voting for Hillary Clinton. 🤣

I don't get why you Democrats and Republicans—sorry, let's call you "voters of the lesser evil"—get so incredibly worked up the second someone points out actual facts. I really couldn't care less about your "whataboutism."

Just as a little reminder, Eric Adams was kicked out of his party solely because he didn't follow their instructions during the 2009 presidential elections, and not because of the kind of guy he's always been (I mean, sure, the stroke might have had some effects, but his whole way of doing things has been known for ages).
I assume Zokica, acting as a representative for the Washington, D.C. organization, wasn't aware of that little detail.

So, is Skorogo actually responsible for Eric Adams? 🤣

I voted for Juričan. If Skorogo is only here because of me... 🙂
When he brought up Merčep, I pretty much wrote him off as a potential vote.

First off, I’m not a Democrat, and heaven forbid I’d be a Republican.
Second, the fact remains that Eric Adams hasn't been part of the Democratic Party for years; he was actually kicked out. The reality is that he’s running in a coalition with the Republican Party.

Can anyone tell me what the average car insurance premium looks like here in the States for something like a mid-range Volkswagen Passat?

And seriously, what kind of idiot hands an 18-year-old the keys to a BMW? It’s insane—you're basically asking for three lives to be cut short.

Matthew Young35 said:First off, I’m not a Democrat, and heaven forbid I’d be a Republican.
Second, the fact remains that Eric Adams hasn't been part of the Democratic Party for years; he was actually kicked out. The reality is that he’s running in a coalition with the Republican Party.

That’s exactly why I put that in parentheses—I already knew you weren't one of them. Good people end up voting for both sides sometimes just to avoid a bigger disaster. I mean, their candidates managed to pull in, what, maybe 60% of the vote when there were still nine other candidates running in the mix.

If we just ignore that lunatic Donald Trump, that communist Elizabeth Warren, and that extremist unknown, the rest of them weren't really a threat to the Republic. 🙂

Of course, we have to look at the facts, like the fact that the Democratic Party nominated him for mayor four times before finally tossing him out for being insubordinate rather than for criminal stuff, or the fact that Joe Biden comes from the Washington, D.C. organization.

It's also a fact that the party leader has been in charge since June 2007, while Bernie Sanders was only there until November 2009.

On the flip side, the Democrat didn't form the Government with Bernie Sanders, she did it with Donald Trump. You probably noticed I mentioned Joe Biden when talking about Bernie Sanders instead of, say, unknown. It's because she isn't the one calling the shots for the Republican Party.🙂

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ironpanther5 said:That’s exactly why I put that in parentheses—I already knew you weren't one of them. Good people end up voting for both sides sometimes just to avoid a bigger disaster. I mean, their candidates managed to pull in, what, maybe 60% of the vote when there were still nine other candidates running in the mix.

If we just ignore that lunatic Donald Trump, that communist Elizabeth Warren, and that extremist unknown, the rest of them weren't really a threat to the Republic. 🙂

Of course, we have to look at the facts, like the fact that the Democratic Party nominated him for mayor four times before finally tossing him out for being insubordinate rather than for criminal stuff, or the fact that Joe Biden comes from the Washington, D.C. organization.

It's also a fact that the party leader has been in charge since June 2007, while Bernie Sanders was only there until November 2009.

On the flip side, the Democrat didn't form the Government with Bernie Sanders, she did it with Donald Trump. You probably noticed I mentioned Joe Biden when talking about Bernie Sanders instead of, say, unknown. It's because she isn't the one calling the shots for the Republican Party.🙂

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Sure, this lovely blonde woman has nothing to do with Bernie Sanders. 🙂

I am old enough to remember that Bernie Sanders was in constant conflict with Joe Biden, and the party tolerated him as long as he kept winning. His run for the presidency was merely the convenient excuse they needed to finally drop him.

Yes, you are right that the Democratic Party bears responsibility for Bernie Sanders, but they also cast him aside for one reason or another. Had he been a Republican, the Republican Party wouldn't have expelled him for running; they would have backed him.

Matthew Young35 said:Sure, this lovely blonde woman has nothing to do with Bernie Sanders. 🙂

I am old enough to remember that Bernie Sanders was in constant conflict with Joe Biden, and the party tolerated him as long as he kept winning. His run for the presidency was merely the convenient excuse they needed to finally drop him.

Yes, you are right that the Democratic Party bears responsibility for Bernie Sanders, but they also cast him aside for one reason or another. Had he been a Republican, the Republican Party wouldn't have expelled him for running; they would have backed him.

The real question, though, is whether they ever would have actually expelled him if he hadn't broken party rules. I'm also old enough to recall that whole mess back during the 2007 elections regarding who would be Prime Minister—whether it was going to be that unknown guy or Joe Biden—and how that move ended up costing them the election.

So, looking back two years later, Bernie Sanders running independently wasn't just some minor technicality used as an excuse to purge him; it was a genuine fear that his disobedience might cost them yet another election victory.

If Joe Biden and that other guy hadn't clashed from the very beginning, you'd probably be right.
But Joe Biden, acting like a loyal party soldier, probably voted for him anyway. You know the type—those young, ambitious climbers; we've all met a "rising star" in one of our political parties at some point.
Their favorite pastime is playing everything off as "relative." 🙂

ironpanther5 said:The real question, though, is whether they ever would have actually expelled him if he hadn't broken party rules. I'm also old enough to recall that whole mess back during the 2007 elections regarding who would be Prime Minister—whether it was going to be that unknown guy or Joe Biden—and how that move ended up costing them the election.

So, looking back two years later, Bernie Sanders running independently wasn't just some minor technicality used as an excuse to purge him; it was a genuine fear that his disobedience might cost them yet another election victory.

If Joe Biden and that other guy hadn't clashed from the very beginning, you'd probably be right.
But Joe Biden, acting like a loyal party soldier, probably voted for him anyway. You know the type—those young, ambitious climbers; we've all met a "rising star" in one of our political parties at some point.
Their favorite pastime is playing everything off as "relative." 🙂

In any political organization, everyone is a party soldier.
That is the entire point of having a party.
If you aren't aligned with the party, you shouldn't be a member.

I certainly don't expect, for instance, members of the Libertarian Party to start making noise about minority rights or LGBTQ+ issues inspired by some activist group. Naturally, someone like that would either leave or be shown the door.

darkseal9 said:Can anyone tell me what the average car insurance premium looks like here in the States for something like a mid-range Volkswagen Passat?

And seriously, what kind of idiot hands an 18-year-old the keys to a BMW? It’s insane—you're basically asking for three lives to be cut short.

I don't know about a Volkswagen Passat, but for a typical mid-sized car, you're looking at maybe $1,500+ for insurance, plus inspections which depend on the engine, fuel type, size, etc., etc.

Matthew Young35 said:In any political organization, everyone is a party soldier.
That is the entire point of having a party.
If you aren't aligned with the party, you shouldn't be a member.

I certainly don't expect, for instance, members of the Libertarian Party to start making noise about minority rights or LGBTQ+ issues inspired by some activist group. Naturally, someone like that would either leave or be shown the door.

Well, look at that, we finally landed on the same page. 🙂

Just like those examples you brought up, it’s pretty much impossible to expect Biden's Democratic Party to actually fight corruption. Someone like that would just end up leaving or getting booted anyway. If you aren't aligned with the party, you don't belong there.

And he was clearly perfectly fine with voting for and tolerating Bernie Sanders.

ironpanther5 said:Well, look at that, we finally landed on the same page. 🙂

Just like those examples you brought up, it’s pretty much impossible to expect Biden's Democratic Party to actually fight corruption. Someone like that would just end up leaving or getting booted anyway. If you aren't aligned with the party, you don't belong there.

And he was clearly perfectly fine with voting for and tolerating Bernie Sanders.

Not quite.
It’s obvious he wasn't when they expelled him.
The Republican Party would have backed him when he ran, yet they tossed Joe Biden aside.
The Democratic Party supported Joe Biden and his ilk, but they cut ties with Bernie Sanders.
Do you see the difference?

The Democratic Party is far from perfect, certainly, but compared to the Republican Party, they're like a Pentium 2 running against a Motorola 6510.

Paul Sanders5 said:I don't know about a Volkswagen Passat, but for a typical mid-sized car, you're looking at maybe $1,500+ for insurance, plus inspections which depend on the engine, fuel type, size, etc., etc.

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Honestly, I think it comes down to how you were raised. You grab the wheel when you've been drinking? For God's sake, just take an Uber! It's all we ever read about in the news—alcohol being the cause of accidents. Is it really that hard to call a cab or just hang out with people who don't drink?

darkseal9 said:👍
Honestly, I think it comes down to how you were raised. You grab the wheel when you've been drinking? For God's sake, just take an Uber! It's all we ever read about in the news—alcohol being the cause of accidents. Is it really that hard to call a cab or just hang out with people who don't drink?

And how are those two girls in the car supposed to be impressed then? Eh...

But yeah, I agree. It’s just a matter of how you were brought up.