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rapidstag2 rapidstag2 Regular
278 messages
joined Jan 2017
#1501 ·
Larry Fox5 said:Russia has been bordering NATO—meaning the US—since the moment NATO was even a thing. Why wasn't that an issue before? And why is it suddenly such a problem now that Finland, which shares the longest border with Russia, is joining NATO? They weren't even close to joining back in the day compared to where we are now.
He basically shoved Finland straight into the arms of NATO—but honestly, he did way more than that. He's the reason Europe is gearing up for massive rearmament, and we're talking about scales at least 15 times larger than anything the Russians are doing...

This individual explained (watch the next 3-4 minutes) that the Russians aren't actually panicking because their territory remains defensible. Instead, they fear that opening other or closer fronts would make protecting their own soil far more difficult. It is almost as if he is suggesting the primary factor is merely the geography of the terrain...

To my mind, it seems much more likely that the second part is the truth: the Russians are simply draining every available resource from the Ukrainians.
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
255 messages
joined Apr 2023
#1502 ·
Larry Fox5 said:He sounds so convincing that I’m positive he isn't even trolling—he actually believes his own nonsense. It’s always fascinated me how the brain can just construct an entire parallel reality like that...

But honestly, he's just like Miroljub Petrovica. You could listen to them for hours and they're more potent than any drug out there.

Loso has officially secured a spot on the podium of the American live trash scene, right alongside Shevica, Lucky, Jaran, and Schwarz...
ironranger67 ironranger67 Active Member
52 messages
joined Oct 2018
#1503 ·
Jacob Price95 said:I don't think they will, because even if this wraps up, they aren't staying for all of Ukraine... they'll just rebuild those two occupied regions and whatever else they decide to annex, then pull back, leaving the shattered Ukrainian parts as a burden for the West to deal with.

They’ll probably take the entire coastline, which effectively strips them of having a functional state—one capable of building an army strong enough to actually go out and liberate those "occupied" territories.

And honestly, it's entirely plausible they could take everything east of the Dnieper. Of course, that all really boils down to how successfully the Ukrainians manage to hold the line.
electriccyclist20 electriccyclist20 Member
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joined Sep 2014
#1504 ·
neonfalcon16 said:I disagree; this was clearly premeditated. A man like that doesn't jump into a war without running the numbers at least fifty times and, more importantly, planning out every single detail.
All this talk about him miscalculating his own strength or underestimating their army is just media spin to manage the chaos. He wanted total isolation. He wanted sanctions; he even wanted his entire nation canceled. That was the goal. There’s no reason to feel sorry for him, nor even for the common people, since they generally support the invasion... One thing is certain: we are witnessing a radical shift on the world stage.

I'll leave you with this: Am I the only one here who thinks the Russian occupiers will rebuild all those destroyed cities before our own folks even fix up Petrinja and the surrounding areas?

The reconstruction efforts in Petrinja are honestly a bit of a tragedy, where the people actually doing the work always seem to show up a day late and a dollar short.

If Vukovar is considered a hero city, then Petrinja is basically a town left in the dust.
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#1505 ·
Larry Fox5 said:Russia has been bordering NATO—meaning the US—since the moment NATO was even a thing. Why wasn't that an issue before? And why is it suddenly such a problem now that Finland, which shares the longest border with Russia, is joining NATO? They weren't even close to joining back in the day compared to where we are now.
He basically shoved Finland straight into the arms of NATO—but honestly, he did way more than that. He's the reason Europe is gearing up for massive rearmament, and we're talking about scales at least 15 times larger than anything the Russians are doing...

Finland actually has neutrality regarding military alliances baked right into its Constitution. They would essentially have to overhaul their entire constitutional framework and state structure to make this happen. Honestly, I find it hard to believe the brains in the Kremlin would just sit idly by while Peter becomes within missile range on both sides of the gulf.
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 RegularOP
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joined Jul 2009
#1506 ·
neonfalcon16 said:Finland actually has neutrality regarding military alliances baked right into its Constitution. They would essentially have to overhaul their entire constitutional framework and state structure to make this happen. Honestly, I find it hard to believe the brains in the Kremlin would just sit idly by while Peter becomes within missile range on both sides of the gulf.

Who cares—let the Kremlin decide which independent nations get to join which alliances. Honestly, I doubt anyone would let them lay a finger on the Finns.
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
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joined Sep 2003
#1507 ·
neonfalcon16 said:Finland actually has neutrality regarding military alliances baked right into its Constitution. They would essentially have to overhaul their entire constitutional framework and state structure to make this happen. Honestly, I find it hard to believe the brains in the Kremlin would just sit idly by while Peter becomes within missile range on both sides of the gulf.

Anthony Jackson2 said:Who cares—let the Kremlin decide which independent nations get to join which alliances. Honestly, I doubt anyone would let them lay a finger on the Finns.

If they decide to hit Finland, all of Europe is going to be at war with Russia automatically—regardless of any nuclear arsenals. It becomes this whole "to be or not to be" situation, totally independent of the US... At the end of the day, this is happening on their own continent, after all.
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#1508 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Who cares—let the Kremlin decide which independent nations get to join which alliances. Honestly, I doubt anyone would let them lay a finger on the Finns.

Larry Fox5 said:If they decide to hit Finland, all of Europe is going to be at war with Russia automatically—regardless of any nuclear arsenals. It becomes this whole "to be or not to be" situation, totally independent of the US... At the end of the day, this is happening on their own continent, after all.

The modern EU, drowning in decadence, green agendas, and whatever this "woke" activism is? I seriously have my doubts.
They desperately need a massive overhaul. On second thought, maybe a total reset back to the Cold War era would have been better; at least then, everyone understood where the lines were drawn.
Kevin Ramos21 Kevin Ramos21 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2020
#1509 ·
Kyle Campbell4 said:And yet, you can't find a single corrupt chef or server willing to slip anything into his food. It’s absolutely unbelievable.

Man, he’s got that guaranteed food taster before every meal. Honestly, a better move would be to swap in an "authentic" bottle of vodka laced with poison—but only if the guy's a solo drinker.
😁
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
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joined Mar 2005
#1510 ·
Kyle Campbell4 said:Reading letters from Russian journalists has been one of the most absurd things lately. If even a fraction of it is true, then Putko has completely lost his mind and gone off the deep end.

Do you have a link to that letter?
neonfalcon16 said:The modern EU, drowning in decadence, green agendas, and whatever this "woke" activism is? I seriously have my doubts.
They desperately need a massive overhaul. On second thought, maybe a total reset back to the Cold War era would have been better; at least then, everyone understood where the lines were drawn.

Good grief.
coastalheron12 coastalheron12 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#1511 ·
So what’s the actual game plan for all these refugees? They're saying it's already hit 2.5 million and it's still climbing—anyone hearing anything from the big shots in Brussels? 🕺
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
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joined Apr 2019
#1512 ·
coastalheron12 said:So what’s the actual game plan for all these refugees? They're saying it's already hit 2.5 million and it's still climbing—anyone hearing anything from the big shots in Brussels? 🕺

They’re actually devout too, you know? Honestly, the rest of Europe is going to be fighting tooth and nail over them, basically praying to God that they never decide to pack up and head home.
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
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joined Apr 2023
#1513 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:They’re actually devout too, you know? Honestly, the rest of Europe is going to be fighting tooth and nail over them, basically praying to God that they never decide to pack up and head home.

And every single one of them is a Ukrainian woman.😬
bluebison47 bluebison47 Regular
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joined Jul 2012
#1514 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:They’re actually devout too, you know? Honestly, the rest of Europe is going to be fighting tooth and nail over them, basically praying to God that they never decide to pack up and head home.

So, basically, nothing about cracking down at the borders? 😢 *cries in Ministry of Interior*
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
348 messages
joined Sep 2003
#1515 ·
People out there today are being openly racist—and the crazy thing is, they aren't even hiding it... they actually seem to think it's kind of funny.

Brave New World. 🙏
coastalheron12 coastalheron12 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#1516 ·
So you're the first one to jump in saying we shouldn't be hassling some Black woman 😁
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
255 messages
joined Apr 2023
#1517 ·
coastalheron12 said:So you're the first one to jump in saying we shouldn't be hassling some Black woman 😁

Nah, and I'm not even ashamed to say it—I actually find it kind of charming.

I've finally realized that he’s just voicing his own personal opinion while simultaneously patting himself on the back...
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
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joined Apr 2019
#1518 ·
Larry Fox5 said:People out there today are being openly racist—and the crazy thing is, they aren't even hiding it... they actually seem to think it's kind of funny.

Brave New World. 🙏

Look, I wasn't saying whether that was great or wrong, just how it looks to me. Maybe I'm off base, who knows? 🤷
Larry Fox5 Larry Fox5 Regular
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joined Sep 2003
#1519 ·
Paul Sanders5 said:Look, I wasn't saying whether that was great or wrong, just how it looks to me. Maybe I'm off base, who knows? 🤷

Honestly, I don't give a damn. You could go tattooing Combat 18 on your skin for all I care. You know how we like to say it around here... KBKK. 👍
Paul Sanders5 Paul Sanders5 Regular
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joined Apr 2019
#1520 ·
It’s hilarious watching the Venn diagram of people crying "where's the NATO alliance?" and those who think any military spending at all is just throwing money down the drain. It’s a perfect little circle. 😬

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