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Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#6221 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:🙂
It’s better if I give you a reality check now rather than you rushing blindly into something. At least you asked, so that's fine.
Mirzaten increases the transport of certain hormones in the brain, whereas Q increases the concentration of those same hormones.
But, really, it doesn't matter.
My apologies, I didn't catch your earlier post.😉

So, does this mean I should consider tapering off Calixti? Even at a mere 7.5 mg? I’ve been on it for quite some time now, yet it feels like it hasn't touched my anxiety at all; in fact, I wake up every single morning feeling utterly drained, exhausted, and as though I haven't slept a wink.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6222 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:Yes, I've been dealing with insomnia and I'm constantly relying on Sanval to get through it. As for the aspartame, it’s simply not good for you under any circumstances—given its supposed links to cancer, I decided to switch to Calixta instead, though I only made that move after a year (once it finally clicked for me), and frankly, both drugs have the exact same sedative effect. My insomnia hasn't actually vanished; if I don't take one of these medications, sleep becomes an impossibility. As for Valdoxan, there is absolutely no way I'm willing to try it; I am incredibly cautious when it comes to pharmaceuticals. The only thing I'm unsure of is whether Calixta will help with anxiety, because personally, it didn't touch my anxiety at all.

Well, obviously! Calixti isn't even designed to target anxiety. It's an antidepressant, which is a completely different ballgame from anxiety management.
Now, sure, some antidepressants can happen to soothe acute anxiety as a side effect, but that isn't Calixta's primary mission.
Think of Calixta as a relatively mild antidepressant with a fairly clean profile regarding side effects; honestly, even in cases of accidental overdose, you rarely see anything catastrophic. It’s your classic, standard antidepressant, typically used as a first-line treatment when starting out on depression therapy.
Chris Kim7 Chris Kim7 Active Member
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#6223 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Look, when it comes to aspartame, things are just... complicated. They're contradictory, and honestly, part of it feels shrouded in mystery.
There is an upper limit for intake—specifically 40 mg per kilogram of body weight.
But is that actually "safe" or recommended? Does anyone truly know? No one does!
The real kicker is that a huge majority of medications contain it because it’s roughly 200 times sweeter than standard sugar.
It shows up in about 6,000 different products, and here in the USA, there are massive debates surrounding it—we've even seen multi-million dollar lawsuits (especially after those deaths back in '94).
We are talking about what are known as "excitotoxins." They essentially kill off nerve cells in the brain.
Anyway, the bottom line is this: you should avoid anything containing aspartame whenever you possibly can.☕

Yeah, I get that part, but right now, all that talk about the pills isn't even what I'm focused on...☕
Chris Kim7 Chris Kim7 Active Member
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#6224 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:Yes, I've been dealing with insomnia and I'm constantly relying on Sanval to get through it. As for the aspartame, it’s simply not good for you under any circumstances—given its supposed links to cancer, I decided to switch to Calixta instead, though I only made that move after a year (once it finally clicked for me), and frankly, both drugs have the exact same sedative effect. My insomnia hasn't actually vanished; if I don't take one of these medications, sleep becomes an impossibility. As for Valdoxan, there is absolutely no way I'm willing to try it; I am incredibly cautious when it comes to pharmaceuticals. The only thing I'm unsure of is whether Calixta will help with anxiety, because personally, it didn't touch my anxiety at all.

I'm just lost, totally lost... I'm grasping at straws here...

But is your insomnia actually any better now, like has it let up at all? Could you not sleep at all without Sanval if you were only taking Calixta? Just one more question and then I'll leave you alone: how long did it take from when you started Mirzaten before you noticed your sleep was improving...

Thanks 🙂 and good luck finding the right antidepressant. 😉
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#6225 ·
Chris Kim7 said:I'm just lost, totally lost... I'm grasping at straws here...

But is your insomnia actually any better now, like has it let up at all? Could you not sleep at all without Sanval if you were only taking Calixta? Just one more question and then I'll leave you alone: how long did it take from when you started Mirzaten before you noticed your sleep was improving...

Thanks 🙂 and good luck finding the right antidepressant. 😉

If I were in your shoes, I honestly wouldn't touch that Quincy tablet because of the aspartame content; besides, Calixta is essentially the same thing anyway. I'm not sure what dosage they handed you, but I started on 15 mg and have since tapered down to half that. Back when I was hitting a total breaking point, sleep was an impossibility, and once I took that, it worked almost instantly—that first night, I slept like a newborn. However, as time drags on, I find myself needing Sanval to supplement it. My current routine is to take Sanval first, and if I haven't drifted off within an hour, I'll take half a dose of Calixta to finally knock myself out. Even then, I wake up feeling utterly drained and wiped out, though I can't tell if that exhaustion stems from the medication cocktail or if it's just the heavy weight of chronic anxiety itself. Don't worry about bothering me; please, ask whatever you need.
Chris Kim7 Chris Kim7 Active Member
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#6226 ·
You're a lifesaver, thank you!

I started out on a 15 mg dose.

Don't just sit there struggling, go talk to your psychiatrist as soon as you can and figure out which antidepressant actually makes sense for you... My doctor mentioned that Valdoxan gets really positive feedback from other patients, and for a while, it actually worked well for me before things just went south... Maybe it'll be different for you. I was on Amyzol before, which also has that sedative effect, and even though the literature lists a ton of side effects, I didn't really deal with them personally, aside from putting on maybe five or six pounds that I eventually lost...
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6227 ·
ironrider11 said:"They aren't healthy for anything"... Who says that? "I was just reading about it"... In some medical journal? Or maybe some random health blog? Total nonsense... What even counts as "healthy" anymore? We're talking genetically modified produce grown using petroleum-based fertilizers in soil that's been completely stripped of its nutrients over decades... or even worse, soil that's basically dead on its own. Then you've got hydroponics where stuff grows in nutrient solutions without any actual dirt at all. Or those fruits and veggies soaked in pesticides to keep bugs away, or loaded with fungicides just so they don't rot during shipping across the country... Is that "healthy"? And what about milk or meat that's pumping out aflatoxins, growth hormones, and antibiotics? Everyone’s got their own definition of "health," obviously. It's totally individual. Take two identical twins... they could react to the exact same chemical substance in totally different ways. One twin has a lethal allergy to shellfish, while the other can't touch peanuts. Shellfish is packed with Omega-3s, minerals like selenium and zinc, and a ton of B vitamins... and peanuts are loaded with Vitamin E, magnesium, and potassium too. All those "benefits" people talk about in studies? For one twin, they're life-saving; for the other, they're potentially fatal... and vice versa...

So you’re popping this specific pill and thinking that because you aren't feeling any side effects right now, you're somehow safe... like you won't end up with some massive, undocumented medical disaster down the road just from taking it... all while dodging another med because some big pharma company ran a scary ad campaign to freak everyone out... ridiculous...

We’re all just junkies here... everywhere... always hunting for that perfect "fix." Looking for that "pure health" hit that puts you in that zen, nirvana, total high feeling... trying to balance the soul, mind, and body. Or maybe we're just obsessing over something imaginary? This whole idea of "health from petroleum products"... honestly, we should just kick the word "health" out of our vocabulary entirely. Just call it what it is, like those warnings on a pack of Marlboros: absolutely toxic... regardless of how bad they are; they’re still legal, permitted, and easy to get your hands on.. "unhealthy" vs. maybe "possible/relatively healthy".......

"Man is a wolf to man."

Hmm, a decent post that ultimately says absolutely nothing.
Is being healthy and having an actual backbone a sore spot for the sick? It certainly feels that way. We all want to hold opinions built on solid foundations—on information that is, at the very least, somewhat verifiable.
But can you really be in the depths of depression (let's call it the common denominator of all mental struggles) and, with a perfectly sound mind, embrace the inherent challenges and risks of treatment? It’s an impossible mission. Or nearly so.
During those brief windows of time when I'm not being washed away by various ailments, I sometimes manage to gather my thoughts and actually process what I've read to see what's truly happening.
We have to weigh everything. Put it all on the scale.
What is the move? Do we act with full awareness of the consequences, or how do we balance treating ourselves while trying to follow our own logic?
What you're writing is rational, and yes, it makes sense. But given that context, how does one choose a path of treatment while remaining fully conscious of tomorrow's fallout?
There is no way.
Achieving even a semblance of a normal, acceptable lifestyle requires a combination of medication and psychological therapy.
There is simply no alternative.
All those trendy, advertised "natural" healing methods? They don't work anymore. Not for me.
Who do we give our money to anyway? This big pharma factory or that one?
Sure, we have choices, but I have to ask: how much does obsessing over these marginal details really matter when you are backed against a wall?!
Give me one meaningful answer that we can actually grapple with here in these posts.
You're right, you are, but there isn't a second chance.☕
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#6228 ·
I’m honestly relieved the Administrator finally stepped in. It looks like Blizzard has stopped the constant gossiping and personal attacks.🙂

Seriously, everyone, why are you all so intimidated by him? I mean, can't you see he’s clearly dealing with some kind of issue? He feels this compulsive need to overanalyze every single post, and in his mind, he's always right, I suppose.☕

As for me, I’m doing alright. I’m staying consistent with my medication, but more importantly, I’ve started getting out more. You really shouldn't spend your entire life glued to a computer screen. Every day, I take a walk along the Mississippi, or I'll grab a coffee with a friend, and I try to maintain a positive mindset—it seems like when you do, things just tend to fall into place around you.
That whole law of attraction thing actually seems to hold some weight, because people can sense when someone is depressed; they pick up on that negative energy. Personally, I head into town every day with a smile on my face, and I can assure you, it isn't forced. I genuinely feel good. 😁

redcrane22... please take care of yourself, and you too, Ana... where have you been hiding lately?😁

I hope everyone has a pleasant day!
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#6229 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:I’m honestly relieved the Administrator finally stepped in. It looks like Blizzard has stopped the constant gossiping and personal attacks.🙂

Seriously, everyone, why are you all so intimidated by him? I mean, can't you see he’s clearly dealing with some kind of issue? He feels this compulsive need to overanalyze every single post, and in his mind, he's always right, I suppose.☕

As for me, I’m doing alright. I’m staying consistent with my medication, but more importantly, I’ve started getting out more. You really shouldn't spend your entire life glued to a computer screen. Every day, I take a walk along the Mississippi, or I'll grab a coffee with a friend, and I try to maintain a positive mindset—it seems like when you do, things just tend to fall into place around you.
That whole law of attraction thing actually seems to hold some weight, because people can sense when someone is depressed; they pick up on that negative energy. Personally, I head into town every day with a smile on my face, and I can assure you, it isn't forced. I genuinely feel good. 😁

redcrane22... please take care of yourself, and you too, Ana... where have you been hiding lately?😁

I hope everyone has a pleasant day!

Kenneth Scott41, that really wasn't a kind thing to say. Is Kevin Nguyen3 the only person on this forum dealing with mental health struggles? Is that really necessary to point out? Psychology is a community where plenty of people deal with various conditions. Kevin Nguyen3 has always been very upfront about his own situation.
This should be the last place where someone's diagnosis is used to discredit them through the worst kind of ad hominem attacks.

Let's not go there. Consider this a moderator's warning, even if it isn't highlighted in color.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Psychotropic medications...
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#6230 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Hmm, a decent post that ultimately says absolutely nothing.
Is being healthy and having an actual backbone a sore spot for the sick? It certainly feels that way. We all want to hold opinions built on solid foundations—on information that is, at the very least, somewhat verifiable.
But can you really be in the depths of depression (let's call it the common denominator of all mental struggles) and, with a perfectly sound mind, embrace the inherent challenges and risks of treatment? It’s an impossible mission. Or nearly so.
During those brief windows of time when I'm not being washed away by various ailments, I sometimes manage to gather my thoughts and actually process what I've read to see what's truly happening.
We have to weigh everything. Put it all on the scale.
What is the move? Do we act with full awareness of the consequences, or how do we balance treating ourselves while trying to follow our own logic?
What you're writing is rational, and yes, it makes sense. But given that context, how does one choose a path of treatment while remaining fully conscious of tomorrow's fallout?
There is no way.
Achieving even a semblance of a normal, acceptable lifestyle requires a combination of medication and psychological therapy.
There is simply no alternative.
All those trendy, advertised "natural" healing methods? They don't work anymore. Not for me.
Who do we give our money to anyway? This big pharma factory or that one?
Sure, we have choices, but I have to ask: how much does obsessing over these marginal details really matter when you are backed against a wall?!
Give me one meaningful answer that we can actually grapple with here in these posts.
You're right, you are, but there isn't a second chance.☕

There isn't a meaningful answer... being "in it" is the whole point of the post. In this day and age where info and misinformation exist about absolutely everything—where everyone wants to be informed on every little thing and try to use that info to their advantage—you hit this paradox. You get overloaded with info that ends up being totally counterproductive. Where do you draw the line between being obsessed and being ignorant? There's no answer. On a personal level, especially with sensitive topics like physical or mental health, it doesn't matter... any info you gather might randomly turn out to be total garbage. It's easy to accidentally steer yourself from the "right" path onto the "wrong" one, ending up deeper in the hole instead of getting out. It's all subjective; based on how someone perceives a specific method, therapy, or pill working, and how they vent their satisfaction or frustration about it... that venting can easily become part of someone else's solution, or the cause of their problem. It's highly individual. Information is health to one person, a sickness to another, a problem to some, and a solution to others. It's like they say... it just depends on how the wind blows. It's bizarre how we live in a society where every single person is both a producer and a consumer of whatever is being made, and money is the engine of this entire consumerist machine; it basically turns health into a commodity available only if you have the cash. How can someone who is physically or mentally struggling—or both—actually fight to grab a piece of that precious commodity? What should you try, and what should you dodge? What's worth enduring and what should you just walk away from? Who can you actually trust? We live in a society that loves to pretend we always have options, but how real is that? When you're backed into a corner, you'll inevitably grasp at whatever whispers to you just to make the pressure stop... How real was your perception of a "solution" in that moment? And how productive or destructive is sharing your experience with someone else, given how much they might actually listen or believe what you say...

Sometimes the path is right there in front of us, but we’re too blinded by xyz to see it. Other times, we spot it, but yxz makes it impossible to wrap our heads around. And sometimes, we think we’re on track, only to realize we were following the wrong damn thing all along........

"I knew nothing at all".. 😉
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#6231 ·
Let’s stick to the topic at hand, shall we!

redcrane22, I hope you're doing alright? What does your current regimen look like?

I think I mentioned quite some time ago that I absolutely need AD, because without it, I’d probably just sink straight to the bottom.
And honestly, I don't have any issue taking it for the rest of my life. My only real concern is how far this tolerance thing goes. I mean, after a year of steady use, one Effexor just isn't cutting it anymore, so my psychiatrist ended up bumping me up to two pills.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6232 ·
ironrider11 said:There isn't a meaningful answer... being "in it" is the whole point of the post. In this day and age where info and misinformation exist about absolutely everything—where everyone wants to be informed on every little thing and try to use that info to their advantage—you hit this paradox. You get overloaded with info that ends up being totally counterproductive. Where do you draw the line between being obsessed and being ignorant? There's no answer. On a personal level, especially with sensitive topics like physical or mental health, it doesn't matter... any info you gather might randomly turn out to be total garbage. It's easy to accidentally steer yourself from the "right" path onto the "wrong" one, ending up deeper in the hole instead of getting out. It's all subjective; based on how someone perceives a specific method, therapy, or pill working, and how they vent their satisfaction or frustration about it... that venting can easily become part of someone else's solution, or the cause of their problem. It's highly individual. Information is health to one person, a sickness to another, a problem to some, and a solution to others. It's like they say... it just depends on how the wind blows. It's bizarre how we live in a society where every single person is both a producer and a consumer of whatever is being made, and money is the engine of this entire consumerist machine; it basically turns health into a commodity available only if you have the cash. How can someone who is physically or mentally struggling—or both—actually fight to grab a piece of that precious commodity? What should you try, and what should you dodge? What's worth enduring and what should you just walk away from? Who can you actually trust? We live in a society that loves to pretend we always have options, but how real is that? When you're backed into a corner, you'll inevitably grasp at whatever whispers to you just to make the pressure stop... How real was your perception of a "solution" in that moment? And how productive or destructive is sharing your experience with someone else, given how much they might actually listen or believe what you say...

Sometimes the path is right there in front of us, but we’re too blinded by xyz to see it. Other times, we spot it, but yxz makes it impossible to wrap our heads around. And sometimes, we think we’re on track, only to realize we were following the wrong damn thing all along........

"I knew nothing at all".. 😉

It’s true. I live my life operating under the assumption that I actually know nothing at all. That is precisely why I am even here writing these things—to learn more.
How can anyone truly know, or even remain objective, about how much someone else's lived experience or knowledge might actually help another person? I suppose everyone knows that already... or they don't. From my perspective, once you strip away all the mistakes—whether intentional or not—all the ignorance, and all the terrible advice coming from various sources, I still find myself double-checking or even quintuple-checking before I ever suggest anything or even offer a mere suggestion regarding medication. This isn't a joke, nor is it a game.
People take certain things literally; they think, "If it worked for him, it'll work for me," but that is such a flawed and unserious way to approach the problem! A medication that helped me carries absolutely no guarantee—not even a trace of a guarantee—that it will help someone else. In fact, there is a massive possibility that it could act in the exact opposite way.
I am not telling people, "Go ahead and take this," I am simply (and often) noting that it helped ME.
On the flip side, shouldn't we look at doctors the same way? I mean, where does their knowledge actually come from? Does a medication really help?
Have they tried it themselves? Have they taken it for years? Or have they merely read millions of different accounts of experiences and side effects, only to end up knowing... well, nothing?
Unfortunately, in our desperate attempt to be as healthy as possible, we are forced to acknowledge some kind of authority.
We simply cannot do it ourselves. Because how can we ever view ourselves with true objectivity?
Think about it like this... if we want to go North, we grab a compass, point it North, and that should be that.
But who is telling us what actually awaits us on that journey? Nobody.
And that is the catch. We have the will, we have the desire, we take realistic advice, we read, we exchange experiences... but we still have to face that "journey."☕
redcrane22 redcrane22 Active Member
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#6233 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:Let’s stick to the topic at hand, shall we!

redcrane22, I hope you're doing alright? What does your current regimen look like?

I think I mentioned quite some time ago that I absolutely need AD, because without it, I’d probably just sink straight to the bottom.
And honestly, I don't have any issue taking it for the rest of my life. My only real concern is how far this tolerance thing goes. I mean, after a year of steady use, one Effexor just isn't cutting it anymore, so my psychiatrist ended up bumping me up to two pills.

You know I'm doing just fine😉

I'm on Zoloft 100, plus three diazepam and two prazosin as needed, maybe a pill or two of Valium occasionally, and so on and so forth. Honestly, I haven't really felt depressed for quite a while—maybe just those typical bad days everyone gets—but I think I'll stick with the Zoloft for a bit longer since it helps me see things more clearly and realistically. It’s just strange, though; I don't get why I, or any of us here, don't feel that sudden burst of energy or whatever people expect when they take it. For me, everything just feels normal.
🤷
Chris Kim7 Chris Kim7 Active Member
56 messages
joined Jul 2013
#6234 ·
Honestly, I’m feeling pretty discouraged right now...

So, the night before last, I took my first dose of Remeron instead of Calixt (alongside my usual 1 mg of Clonazepam) and, surprisingly enough, it was just the Remeron that actually knocked me out... it really sedated me. I felt totally groggy and wiped all day, but I just figured those were the side effects, and honestly, I was just happy to finally get some sleep.

Then I took it again last night and—nothing. I waited an hour and a half and eventually had to take some Valium. I ended up waking up after maybe five or six hours.

How does that even work? It puts me out the first night, then fails the second? And today, I don't even feel as drugged as I did yesterday; I actually managed to get out of bed relatively easily.

Does this stuff need time to build up to help with sleep, or is it supposed to hit immediately?

How long before bed are you guys actually taking it?

Please, if you're on this stuff, let me know what your experience has been like... insomnia is my biggest struggle here.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#6235 ·
Chris Kim7 said:Honestly, I’m feeling pretty discouraged right now...

So, the night before last, I took my first dose of Remeron instead of Calixt (alongside my usual 1 mg of Clonazepam) and, surprisingly enough, it was just the Remeron that actually knocked me out... it really sedated me. I felt totally groggy and wiped all day, but I just figured those were the side effects, and honestly, I was just happy to finally get some sleep.

Then I took it again last night and—nothing. I waited an hour and a half and eventually had to take some Valium. I ended up waking up after maybe five or six hours.

How does that even work? It puts me out the first night, then fails the second? And today, I don't even feel as drugged as I did yesterday; I actually managed to get out of bed relatively easily.

Does this stuff need time to build up to help with sleep, or is it supposed to hit immediately?

How long before bed are you guys actually taking it?

Please, if you're on this stuff, let me know what your experience has been like... insomnia is my biggest struggle here.

It says right here in the instructions:

It may take 2 to 4 weeks before you start to feel better and sleep more soundly. It is important to take Remeron Q-Tab every day and not stop using it unless directed by your doctor. If you stop taking the medication, your symptoms may return.

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/...en-q-tab/1869/
Chris Kim7 Chris Kim7 Active Member
56 messages
joined Jul 2013
#6236 ·
Thanks, I've already gone through all of that, but I'm more interested in hearing from people who have actually been on it or are currently taking it... It feels like there aren't many of us here talking about it.

Anyway, thanks again! :-)
redcrane22 redcrane22 Active Member
90 messages
joined Jun 2012
#6237 ·
I was taking Calixt, but someone I know 😁 is on Remeron

I ended up tossing that damn Calixt straight into the trash after just two days. I tried taking half a dose and I seriously couldn't even pull myself out of bed to go grab the mail.
I was actually kind of looking forward to it—thinking maybe I’d finally put on some weight or something—but man, it was just way too heavy for me.

On the other hand, I see that this celebrity uses Remeron and says it works wonders for them, especially for getting some sleep.
I'm not sure though, what exactly is the difference between the q-tab version and the regular Remeron? 🙈
Chris Kim7 Chris Kim7 Active Member
56 messages
joined Jul 2013
#6238 ·
redcrane22 said:I was taking Calixt, but someone I know 😁 is on Remeron

I ended up tossing that damn Calixt straight into the trash after just two days. I tried taking half a dose and I seriously couldn't even pull myself out of bed to go grab the mail.
I was actually kind of looking forward to it—thinking maybe I’d finally put on some weight or something—but man, it was just way too heavy for me.

On the other hand, I see that this celebrity uses Remeron and says it works wonders for them, especially for getting some sleep.
I'm not sure though, what exactly is the difference between the q-tab version and the regular Remeron? 🙈

unknown, finally some actual experience (sadly 😁)!

Do you know if it started helping that celebrity (🙂) with sleep right away, or did it take a while to kick in? Because insomnia is my main issue...
It's confusing me because I managed to sleep the night before last, but last night I ended up needing Valium.

And yeah, how long has that celebrity been on it?
Chris Kim7 Chris Kim7 Active Member
56 messages
joined Jul 2013
#6239 ·
redcrane22 said:You know I'm doing just fine😉

I'm on Zoloft 100, plus three diazepam and two prazosin as needed, maybe a pill or two of Valium occasionally, and so on and so forth. Honestly, I haven't really felt depressed for quite a while—maybe just those typical bad days everyone gets—but I think I'll stick with the Zoloft for a bit longer since it helps me see things more clearly and realistically. It’s just strange, though; I don't get why I, or any of us here, don't feel that sudden burst of energy or whatever people expect when they take it. For me, everything just feels normal.
🤷

Honestly, I think this is actually what everyone wants... the whole point is just feeling normal again 🙂
feralstag72 feralstag72 Member
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#6240 ·
I’ve been on 15mg of Mirtazapine—or Calixt, depending on how you look at it—for about four and a half years now. Honestly, it was what pulled me out of that deep depressive rut I was stuck in back in early 2010. For me, the main issues were that total lack of drive, feeling completely lifeless, and having zero appetite. I cycled through a thousand different medications before finding this one. As far as sleep goes, if I take it about an hour before bed, it hits me pretty hard and knocks me right out. I’m not sure how high your dosage is, but you could probably bump up the milligrams a bit if you need more sedation. It definitely kicked my appetite back into gear, too. Personally, I felt the effects almost immediately. The only side effect I dealt with was some intense headaches when I tried stepping up to 30mg, so I dialed it back down to 15mg. Anyway, talk to your doctor first, but maybe try increasing the dose slightly. You could even pair it with a little Norvasc to help stay calm, though Mirtazapine itself is already pretty sedative and calming. I usually wake up feeling normal in the morning and don't feel groggy during the day. Just a heads up: I wouldn't recommend the Remeron q-tab because it lasts way too long and leaves you feeling totally drugged all day long.

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