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restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#6921 ·
Melissa Sanchez59 said:Actually, thinking about it more, this might be okay—I used to take 25-50 mg of Seroquel during the day and could function just fine, but now one or two pills before bed totally wipes me out. Maybe I’ve just become way more anxious than I realized? 🙂

Anyway, I tried taking just half a pill last night and ended up staying awake all night. I guess I really can't deal with the insomnia after all 😁

Bad omen😢 basically means you're either exhausted or a total zombie.

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Lisa Reyes4 Lisa Reyes4 Member
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#6922 ·
Is Concerta actually an antidepressant?? Can it even be prescribed for depression?? Sending greetings from a freezing cold day here in Appalachia
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6923 ·
Lisa Reyes4 said:Is Concerta actually an antidepressant?? Can it even be prescribed for depression?? Sending greetings from a freezing cold day here in Appalachia

No, it isn't.
Concerta is actually used to help with focus in both children and adults who struggle with ADHD—that's Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, for those who aren't familiar with the term.
It isn't prescribed to treat depression.
Think of Concerta as just one specific type of medication in that category; it's designed with a time-release mechanism so the active ingredient enters the system gradually over time.
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#6924 ·
Michael Jordan

I am curious if anyone here is currently taking this medication. I am not on it myself, though I am considering the possibility. At the moment, I am prescribed Generic and Lyrica; the Generic has been quite acceptable, keeping in mind that there is no such thing as a magic pill 🙂. I would prefer not to switch simply because changing regimens is such a hassle, but due to some neurological issues, my neurologist suggested I consult with my psychiatrist about switching my AD. I am wondering if this is similar to Effexor, which was easily the worst experience I have had while searching for an AD. Additionally, what is the situation regarding side effects—specifically, do the sexual side effects eventually subside? It is certainly a lot of questions to navigate. I assume I cannot just add this to the Generic, as that would likely result in too much serotonin... If you have any personal experiences with Michael Jordan, please share them so I can better prepare for my conversation with the psychiatrist.

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darkbison5 darkbison5 Newcomer
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#6925 ·
I was on Zoloft for four years to deal with panic attacks. After discussing it with my psychiatrist, we decided to taper off since the actual attacks had stopped—but the "fear of the fear" remains, which effectively keeps me from living a normal life. My therapist suggested that in situations where I feel vulnerable—like being alone or traveling somewhere by myself, fearing a sudden onset—I should take a Generic. At this rate, it sounds like I’d need to take a pill almost every single day.
My takeaway is this: antidepressants seem to merely mask the symptoms of panic disorder rather than actually curing it. It implies one would have to stay on them indefinitely, and even then, it isn't a perfect fix—I never felt entirely liberated from that underlying dread even while I was medicated.
The most effective thing I've done for myself during those moments is to confront the fear head-on. I treat the anxiety like some obnoxious stranger trying to pick a fight—I basically tell it, "Alright, what are you waiting for? Come on then, attack me." Usually, it quietens down. Then I can say, "See? I'm the one in charge here; you can't touch me."
The catch, of course, is that maintaining such a bold stance isn't always possible. You really have to practice facing these triggers daily and simply refuse to back down. That’s been my approach, and I believe it's the way out since my panic is purely situational—it doesn't strike out of nowhere; it only appears when I'm in specific circumstances. In fact, it feels more like a phobia. When I'm with someone else, the whole thing seems ridiculous; I can't believe I lack the nerve to just hop in a car and drive more than ten miles by myself. For instance, if my husband is with me, I can drive to the coast without a second thought, knowing that even if something happens, I'm not alone. And believe me, that's the truth! If I could just be honest with everyone about my fear of panic, it would likely vanish completely. But how do you explain that to others? We live in a society that is quick to label anyone struggling as "crazy." So, I've been spinning my wheels in this frustrating loop for years, unsure of the exit. If I go back to my psychiatrist, they'll probably just put me right back on antidepressants, and we'll be right back where we started.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6926 ·
darkbison5 said:I was on Zoloft for four years to deal with panic attacks. After discussing it with my psychiatrist, we decided to taper off since the actual attacks had stopped—but the "fear of the fear" remains, which effectively keeps me from living a normal life. My therapist suggested that in situations where I feel vulnerable—like being alone or traveling somewhere by myself, fearing a sudden onset—I should take a Generic. At this rate, it sounds like I’d need to take a pill almost every single day.
My takeaway is this: antidepressants seem to merely mask the symptoms of panic disorder rather than actually curing it. It implies one would have to stay on them indefinitely, and even then, it isn't a perfect fix—I never felt entirely liberated from that underlying dread even while I was medicated.
The most effective thing I've done for myself during those moments is to confront the fear head-on. I treat the anxiety like some obnoxious stranger trying to pick a fight—I basically tell it, "Alright, what are you waiting for? Come on then, attack me." Usually, it quietens down. Then I can say, "See? I'm the one in charge here; you can't touch me."
The catch, of course, is that maintaining such a bold stance isn't always possible. You really have to practice facing these triggers daily and simply refuse to back down. That’s been my approach, and I believe it's the way out since my panic is purely situational—it doesn't strike out of nowhere; it only appears when I'm in specific circumstances. In fact, it feels more like a phobia. When I'm with someone else, the whole thing seems ridiculous; I can't believe I lack the nerve to just hop in a car and drive more than ten miles by myself. For instance, if my husband is with me, I can drive to the coast without a second thought, knowing that even if something happens, I'm not alone. And believe me, that's the truth! If I could just be honest with everyone about my fear of panic, it would likely vanish completely. But how do you explain that to others? We live in a society that is quick to label anyone struggling as "crazy." So, I've been spinning my wheels in this frustrating loop for years, unsure of the exit. If I go back to my psychiatrist, they'll probably just put me right back on antidepressants, and we'll be right back where we started.

I really hope you see the contradictions in what you've shared here.
You aren't taking Zoloft anymore because you don't have panic attacks, yet you suggest you'd need to take a Generic every day because you DO have them—or rather, because of this "fear of the fear" you mentioned.
Your doctor gave you sound advice based on your own description: use the Generic as needed.
But then, what you’re telling me now feels like a completely different story altogether.
Zoloft, which is a standard AD and actually quite effective, should have helped manage your anxiety and the depression that stems from dealing with panic, all while helping balance those hormonal shifts typical of such episodes.
Beyond all that, shouldn't one also pursue psychotherapy? For panic disorders, therapy is the absolute foundation—changing thought patterns, facing oneself, confronting circumstances, and so on.
But honestly, hasn't this been written about a thousand times already?
That is the established treatment system.
Anxiolytics on an as-needed basis, ADs until your body "realizes" there is no legitimate reason to be afraid, and some form of psychotherapy, whether it's group sessions or individual ones.

The rest of your post is essentially about how to eventually break free from that vicious cycle—fear, panic, anxiety, depression—and how to improve the very quality of your life.
darkbison5 darkbison5 Newcomer
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#6927 ·

Kevin Nguyen3 said:I really hope you see the contradictions in what you've shared here.
You aren't taking Zoloft anymore because you don't have panic attacks, yet you suggest you'd need to take a Generic every day because you DO have them—or rather, because of this "fear of the fear" you mentioned.
Your doctor gave you sound advice based on your own description: use the Generic as needed.
But then, what you’re telling me now feels like a completely different story altogether.
Zoloft, which is a standard AD and actually quite effective, should have helped manage your anxiety and the depression that stems from dealing with panic, all while helping balance those hormonal shifts typical of such episodes.
Beyond all that, shouldn't one also pursue psychotherapy? For panic disorders, therapy is the absolute foundation—changing thought patterns, facing oneself, confronting circumstances, and so on.
But honestly, hasn't this been written about a thousand times already?
That is the established treatment system.
Anxiolytics on an as-needed basis, ADs until your body "realizes" there is no legitimate reason to be afraid, and some form of psychotherapy, whether it's group sessions or individual ones.

The rest of your post is essentially about how to eventually break free from that vicious cycle—fear, panic, anxiety, depression—and how to improve the very quality of your life.

So, if I follow your logic—is what you're actually suggesting that I should go back on antidepressants?
The issue isn't actually the panic attacks themselves—I’ve only experienced a few in my life, and honestly, I haven't had one in years. The real problem is the lingering shadow they left behind. It’s the persistent, nagging dread of the unknown—that constant fear that another one might strike out of nowhere. In a sense, the anxiety isn't about the event anymore; it's about the anticipation of it.
I am fully aware that psychotherapy would be immensely beneficial for me—provided, of course, that I could find a private practitioner. The issue with the public healthcare system is that the clinicians seem more interested in checking a box and handing out prescriptions than actually engaging with the patient. It feels less like healing and more like an assembly line designed to move people through the door as quickly as possible. The logistical hurdle, however, is that there isn't a single private therapist in my town. To see any meaningful progress, one really needs to commit to at least one session per week—consistency is everything—but that's a tall order when there isn't anyone local to see.
Regarding antidepressants—that was precisely my point when I mentioned that even while I was on them, I wasn't exactly liberated from my anxiety.
Aside from this particular issue, I don't really have any other mental health struggles—I’ve never been prone to depression. On the contrary, I tend to be quite vibrant, creative, and—if I do say so myself—usually the one keeping everyone entertained when I'm out with friends. 🙂Honestly, I am just feeling incredibly frustrated right now—it feels like I can’t get ahead of this anxiety, and I'm struggling to see any kind of way out. It’s exhausting. My only thought at this moment is to just hop in the car and drive—maybe twenty miles away from home—just to see who wins this tug-of-war: me, or the fear. 😁
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6928 ·
darkbison5 said:So, if I follow your logic—is what you're actually suggesting that I should go back on antidepressants?
The issue isn't actually the panic attacks themselves—I’ve only experienced a few in my life, and honestly, I haven't had one in years. The real problem is the lingering shadow they left behind. It’s the persistent, nagging dread of the unknown—that constant fear that another one might strike out of nowhere. In a sense, the anxiety isn't about the event anymore; it's about the anticipation of it.
I am fully aware that psychotherapy would be immensely beneficial for me—provided, of course, that I could find a private practitioner. The issue with the public healthcare system is that the clinicians seem more interested in checking a box and handing out prescriptions than actually engaging with the patient. It feels less like healing and more like an assembly line designed to move people through the door as quickly as possible. The logistical hurdle, however, is that there isn't a single private therapist in my town. To see any meaningful progress, one really needs to commit to at least one session per week—consistency is everything—but that's a tall order when there isn't anyone local to see.
Regarding antidepressants—that was precisely my point when I mentioned that even while I was on them, I wasn't exactly liberated from my anxiety.
Aside from this particular issue, I don't really have any other mental health struggles—I’ve never been prone to depression. On the contrary, I tend to be quite vibrant, creative, and—if I do say so myself—usually the one keeping everyone entertained when I'm out with friends. 🙂Honestly, I am just feeling incredibly frustrated right now—it feels like I can’t get ahead of this anxiety, and I'm struggling to see any kind of way out. It’s exhausting. My only thought at this moment is to just hop in the car and drive—maybe twenty miles away from home—just to see who wins this tug-of-war: me, or the fear. 😁

No, this isn't about what "I" think, because I am certainly not issuing orders or telling anyone what to do! But you did say yourself that you were on antidepressants and that you are struggling with this fear now.
If you aren't having actual panic attacks, then you don't need an antidepressant. You should follow whatever the doctor prescribed regarding the Generic.
You aren't going to conquer fear through risky behavior—like driving like Schumacher through the streets, for instance.
It is true that facing your fears can bring solutions, but not in that manner. One must prepare gradually to fight against fears; the human organism simply isn't built to solve stress with more stress.
darkbison5 darkbison5 Newcomer
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#6929 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:

No, this isn't about what "I" think, because I am certainly not issuing orders or telling anyone what to do! But you did say yourself that you were on antidepressants and that you are struggling with this fear now.
If you aren't having actual panic attacks, then you don't need an antidepressant. You should follow whatever the doctor prescribed regarding the Generic.
You aren't going to conquer fear through risky behavior—like driving like Schumacher through the streets, for instance.
It is true that facing your fears can bring solutions, but not in that manner. One must prepare gradually to fight against fears; the human organism simply isn't built to solve stress with more stress.
No, this isn't about what "I" think, because I am certainly not issuing orders or telling anyone what to do! But you did say yourself that you were on antidepressants and that you are struggling with this fear now.
If you aren't having actual panic attacks, then you don't need an antidepressant. You should follow whatever the doctor prescribed regarding the Generic.
You aren't going to conquer fear through risky behavior—like driving like Schumacher through the streets, for instance.
It is true that facing your fears can bring solutions, but not in that manner. One must prepare gradually to fight against fears; the human organism simply isn't built to solve stress with more stress.
Thanks for getting back to me. I feel a bit braver immediately after reading that. 🙂
That is precisely what I am attempting to do—taking it step by step. For the most part, I succeed within my "comfort zone," but I haven't quite found the courage to push further. There are days when I feel like I could save the world—days when the fear vanishes and I can walk through downtown without a second thought—but the good days aren't consistent. Then the setbacks happen, and I find myself right back at square one, spiraling into "what if" scenarios. Just the other day, I ventured out alone, and after walking only about three blocks from my house, my heart started racing at over 100 beats per minute (I'm actually on medication for tachycardia). I had to pull myself together and head straight home because I was terrified that a panic attack would strike after such a long hiatus. At this point, I'm not even sure if I'm dealing with cardiophobia or actual panic 😕 So, what should my next move be? 🙂
Before these panic issues started, I was a very self-assured person, which is why this whole situation is so incredibly frustrating... sometimes I wish this fear had a physical form so I could just give it a good thrashing. 😁
Lisa Reyes4 Lisa Reyes4 Member
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#6930 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:No, it isn't.
Concerta is actually used to help with focus in both children and adults who struggle with ADHD—that's Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, for those who aren't familiar with the term.
It isn't prescribed to treat depression.
Think of Concerta as just one specific type of medication in that category; it's designed with a time-release mechanism so the active ingredient enters the system gradually over time.

Oh, thank you so much!!!!
Donna Vaughn28 Donna Vaughn28 Member
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#6931 ·
I had a bit of a heart-to-heart with my doctor the other day, and we both came to the deep conclusion that I’ve been on two different ADs for about ten years now—specifically Prozac and Lexapro (he switched me over to a Generic later on just to save me some money).
He decided to prescribe me Effexor XR to see how I’d react, since I’ve been stuck in this moderate depression for two months now. It really slows me down; I can barely handle my daily chores unless I force myself through it at lightning speed, and then the rest of the day is spent just lying in bed. I suppose for some people this might seem severe, but compared to the depressions I've faced before, this feels somewhat moderate... I can still eat, I can think, and I can push myself to step outside occasionally. But when the heavy stuff hits, it's like a total short circuit... just a lifeless shell of a person lying there all day.
I noticed the difference from the Generic immediately on the very first night. Even though I take 1 mg of Generic in the evening, my sleep is incredibly shallow. I’m never quite sure if I’m actually asleep or just lost in thought, and I wake up frequently, though I suppose I am sleeping since time seems to fly by. I have a slight headache and a bit of nausea, but nothing too intense or unsettling. My only real fear was remembering the Generic I took before these SSRIs. They act on similar things, but that old medication was a nightmare... every trip to the restroom felt like a grueling ordeal. I told my doctor upfront that I wasn't going to stick with it if it felt like that, but thankfully, it hasn't. It’s still way too early to make any real predictions since it’s only day three, but I feel like I might be a tiny bit better... or perhaps it's just the placebo effect...
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6932 ·
Donna Vaughn28 said:I had a bit of a heart-to-heart with my doctor the other day, and we both came to the deep conclusion that I’ve been on two different ADs for about ten years now—specifically Prozac and Lexapro (he switched me over to a Generic later on just to save me some money).
He decided to prescribe me Effexor XR to see how I’d react, since I’ve been stuck in this moderate depression for two months now. It really slows me down; I can barely handle my daily chores unless I force myself through it at lightning speed, and then the rest of the day is spent just lying in bed. I suppose for some people this might seem severe, but compared to the depressions I've faced before, this feels somewhat moderate... I can still eat, I can think, and I can push myself to step outside occasionally. But when the heavy stuff hits, it's like a total short circuit... just a lifeless shell of a person lying there all day.
I noticed the difference from the Generic immediately on the very first night. Even though I take 1 mg of Generic in the evening, my sleep is incredibly shallow. I’m never quite sure if I’m actually asleep or just lost in thought, and I wake up frequently, though I suppose I am sleeping since time seems to fly by. I have a slight headache and a bit of nausea, but nothing too intense or unsettling. My only real fear was remembering the Generic I took before these SSRIs. They act on similar things, but that old medication was a nightmare... every trip to the restroom felt like a grueling ordeal. I told my doctor upfront that I wasn't going to stick with it if it felt like that, but thankfully, it hasn't. It’s still way too early to make any real predictions since it’s only day three, but I feel like I might be a tiny bit better... or perhaps it's just the placebo effect...

Effexor is a relatively newer medication that has proven itself quite effective, specifically when dealing with moderate to severe depressive episodes.
During an active episode, the dosage tends to be higher—say, somewhere in the 150-300 mg range—but once the crisis passes, you can continue taking it preventatively at much lower doses, like 37.5-75 mg. Isn't that a wonderful characteristic for a drug to have?
Throughout the entire course of taking Effexor, it is entirely possible to experience absolutely zero side effects that would necessitate stopping the treatment altogether.
To even mention "fewer side effects" in this context seems almost redundant, does it not? After all, isn't that exactly what we expect?
You are currently in that delicate transitional phase where one medication is being phased out while another is being introduced (if I am understanding your situation correctly), and let me tell you, those are incredibly specific scenarios. There is no universal rulebook or predictable pattern we can rely on here!
I have been on Effexor for years now, and believe me when I say I wouldn't go around calling a medication "good" if it truly wasn't.
The reality is, my struggle is with dysthymia—that chronic, lingering depression—so one must always approach everything with a certain level of caution, right? But, knock on wood 🙂 since I started Effexor, my condition has significantly improved.
Donna Vaughn28 Donna Vaughn28 Member
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#6933 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Effexor is a relatively newer medication that has proven itself quite effective, specifically when dealing with moderate to severe depressive episodes.
During an active episode, the dosage tends to be higher—say, somewhere in the 150-300 mg range—but once the crisis passes, you can continue taking it preventatively at much lower doses, like 37.5-75 mg. Isn't that a wonderful characteristic for a drug to have?
Throughout the entire course of taking Effexor, it is entirely possible to experience absolutely zero side effects that would necessitate stopping the treatment altogether.
To even mention "fewer side effects" in this context seems almost redundant, does it not? After all, isn't that exactly what we expect?
You are currently in that delicate transitional phase where one medication is being phased out while another is being introduced (if I am understanding your situation correctly), and let me tell you, those are incredibly specific scenarios. There is no universal rulebook or predictable pattern we can rely on here!
I have been on Effexor for years now, and believe me when I say I wouldn't go around calling a medication "good" if it truly wasn't.
The reality is, my struggle is with dysthymia—that chronic, lingering depression—so one must always approach everything with a certain level of caution, right? But, knock on wood 🙂 since I started Effexor, my condition has significantly improved.

It started with me too, this chronic 🙂
This time of year always hits me the hardest. It’s freezing, and even with the heater running, I’m just curled up in bed... zero motivation to do anything. It's dinner time and I have to take the dog out, so I'm not just lying around all day and night, but hey, compared to people who stay in bed all day and only leave to hit a Starbucks, I guess I have it relatively easy 🙂
Regarding the medication, I was just sharing how things kicked off for me. The toughest part is that life has become... boring. I'm fully aware of everything happening around me; I can think clearly and make plans, but I just can't seem to get up without feeling the need to lie back down shortly after. It's a bit frustrating... though I've mostly made peace with it. If I can't fight it, I might as well just rest when the feeling hits.
goldengardener51 goldengardener51 Member
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#6934 ·
I haven't been back on Generic for almost a month, but things have taken a bit of a downturn—so my doctor put me right back on it.
And honestly, I don't get it... am I dealing with side effects all over again?? Why does this always happen?
It’s nothing life-threatening, just some nagging headaches and nausea—but seriously, why????
Mark Nelson Mark Nelson Active Member
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#6935 ·
I haven't taken my Lamictal for a few days now, which I usually take regularly. The thing is, my doctor won't write me a prescription for it under my current diagnosis because I was way too swollen when I went in to get the script... I guess I'm just wondering if anything serious could happen because of this?
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6936 ·
Mark Nelson said:I haven't taken my Lamictal for a few days now, which I usually take regularly. The thing is, my doctor won't write me a prescription for it under my current diagnosis because I was way too swollen when I went in to get the script... I guess I'm just wondering if anything serious could happen because of this?

No.
Lamictal is typically prescribed as a preventative measure against seizures.

Since there's such a significant risk that certain medications might trigger an episode, doctors prescribe it to cover all bases—both to manage the condition and to ensure you don't experience some kind of total disaster.

What dose are you on?
Mark Nelson Mark Nelson Active Member
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#6937 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:No.
Lamictal is typically prescribed as a preventative measure against seizures.

Since there's such a significant risk that certain medications might trigger an episode, doctors prescribe it to cover all bases—both to manage the condition and to ensure you don't experience some kind of total disaster.

What dose are you on?

25 mg in the morning and at night.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6938 ·
Mark Nelson said:25 mg in the morning and at night.

That is the absolute minimum dose.
I am right there with you on that.😉
Mark Nelson Mark Nelson Active Member
146 messages
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#6939 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:That is the absolute minimum dose.
I am right there with you on that.😉

Have you noticed any side effects yet?
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#6940 ·
Mark Nelson said:Have you noticed any side effects yet?

Even at higher doses, Lamictal shows very few side effects, and at the specific dose we're both on? There's practically zero chance of issues there.
But, mind you—if you happen to be allergic to one of the actual ingredients in the pill, well, that’s an entirely different story altogether, isn't it?
So, tell me, are you experiencing any side effects?
Are you taking anything else alongside it?

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