Psychotropic medication discussion thread

restlesstiger49 said:I don't think so. Quetiapine is actually the active ingredient in Q-pin. 🤷

One time I took 25mg. Within thirty minutes, I was absolutely floored. And yeah, I dealt with those exact same side effects you mentioned. It took me half the day just to feel human again. For me, that dose works best for anxiety if I take it during the day, though thankfully I've never taken it then because I would've passed out at my desk.

Join The Club, maybe try cutting the dose in half.

Skickas FR

If you're just using it to help you sleep, then you got lucky.

But take too much, and it’s pure evil. That's exactly why I quit.

They finally kicked me off the forums today. I woke up this morning with my eyelids all swollen, and they’re feeling pretty itchy and irritated too. I managed to get some allergy meds, but I can't touch anything like Xanax for a while. Honestly, I'm pretty shaken up—I can't believe this happened to me right when things were finally looking up. Now I'm back at square one, unable to take anything from that group of meds. It feels like starting all over again.😢

restlesstiger49 said:I don't think so. Quetiapine is actually the active ingredient in Q-pin. 🤷

One time I took 25mg. Within thirty minutes, I was absolutely floored. And yeah, I dealt with those exact same side effects you mentioned. It took me half the day just to feel human again. For me, that dose works best for anxiety if I take it during the day, though thankfully I've never taken it then because I would've passed out at my desk.

Honestly, it’s pretty straightforward when you look at the chemistry—quetiapine is a core component found in both Seroquel and Loquex, and it's clearly the main ingredient in that Q-pin too.

Quentin:

I tried taking 25mg the other day, and honestly, within about half an hour, it pretty much knocked me straight out of commission and sent me crashing into bed, though I have to say that the side effects were exactly what you described. It took me a good half a day to finally feel like myself again.

Yeah, it was honestly a nightmare. I have no idea why I even thought taking that medication would help with my insomnia, because it was just a total disaster.

Quentin:

Personally, I think this dosage works perfectly for me when I need to manage my anxiety, especially since I take it in the morning. To be honest, I’ve actually never tried taking it at that time before because I was always worried it would just knock me out right in the middle of my shift at work.

Just a little bit of everything! 🤷

hollowcrane95 said:Honestly, it’s pretty straightforward when you look at the chemistry—quetiapine is a core component found in both Seroquel and Loquex, and it's clearly the main ingredient in that Q-pin too.

Quentin:

I tried taking 25mg the other day, and honestly, within about half an hour, it pretty much knocked me straight out of commission and sent me crashing into bed, though I have to say that the side effects were exactly what you described. It took me a good half a day to finally feel like myself again.

Yeah, it was honestly a nightmare. I have no idea why I even thought taking that medication would help with my insomnia, because it was just a total disaster.

Quentin:

Personally, I think this dosage works perfectly for me when I need to manage my anxiety, especially since I take it in the morning. To be honest, I’ve actually never tried taking it at that time before because I was always worried it would just knock me out right in the middle of my shift at work.

Just a little bit of everything! 🤷

I was having a conversation with my psychiatrist this morning about how I simply cannot tolerate Quetiapine—it’s just not working for me. And then, out of nowhere, I run into some guy on the street around 10:00 PM who starts giving me unsolicited advice. He tells me I should just call my other psychiatrist, explain the situation, and apparently, she'll just hand it over if they happen to have some extra in their donations pile. Honestly, I guess people really do think they know everything, don't they? It's absolutely ridiculous.
Of course, they didn't have it in stock. She actually had the nerve to tell me I should go back and consult with the psychiatrist who originally prescribed it... Honestly, I’m going to try talking things through during my psychotherapy session tomorrow, but if she still refuses to cooperate, I might just have to tell her exactly where she can shove it. I can find ways to get my medication elsewhere if I have to. My mother is completely schizophrenic, so I suppose I’m "lucky" to be in this situation; she sent me a whole box of Quetiapine, which is the exact same thing as Seroquel. For some reason, she hasn't been taking them herself. Since she takes 100 mg and I’m only prescribed 25 mg, I’ll be set for at least two months. Problem solved. She can just give them to me whenever she needs to; there was a time when I used to take them from her since she wasn't using them anyway. I really just hope the nightmares stop soon. I haven't slept without any medication for three nights now, and the dreams are absolutely horrific. I wake up drenched in sweat, shaking... it’s a total disaster. All of this is happening simply because she wouldn't approve my treatment plan because she claimed I was asking for it too early. 🙄 I only have enough Zoloft left to last me about a week. I’m really hoping they actually follow through and give me my Normabel or amyzol tomorrow; otherwise, I might just lose my mind and snap at everyone before I run out.

shadowbear9 said:I was having a conversation with my psychiatrist this morning about how I simply cannot tolerate Quetiapine—it’s just not working for me. And then, out of nowhere, I run into some guy on the street around 10:00 PM who starts giving me unsolicited advice. He tells me I should just call my other psychiatrist, explain the situation, and apparently, she'll just hand it over if they happen to have some extra in their donations pile. Honestly, I guess people really do think they know everything, don't they? It's absolutely ridiculous.
Of course, they didn't have it in stock. She actually had the nerve to tell me I should go back and consult with the psychiatrist who originally prescribed it... Honestly, I’m going to try talking things through during my psychotherapy session tomorrow, but if she still refuses to cooperate, I might just have to tell her exactly where she can shove it. I can find ways to get my medication elsewhere if I have to. My mother is completely schizophrenic, so I suppose I’m "lucky" to be in this situation; she sent me a whole box of Quetiapine, which is the exact same thing as Seroquel. For some reason, she hasn't been taking them herself. Since she takes 100 mg and I’m only prescribed 25 mg, I’ll be set for at least two months. Problem solved. She can just give them to me whenever she needs to; there was a time when I used to take them from her since she wasn't using them anyway. I really just hope the nightmares stop soon. I haven't slept without any medication for three nights now, and the dreams are absolutely horrific. I wake up drenched in sweat, shaking... it’s a total disaster. All of this is happening simply because she wouldn't approve my treatment plan because she claimed I was asking for it too early. 🙄 I only have enough Zoloft left to last me about a week. I’m really hoping they actually follow through and give me my Normabel or amyzol tomorrow; otherwise, I might just lose my mind and snap at everyone before I run out.

Persuade her.
Just check if your mom's supply is the extended-release version or not.

Sending strength

restlesstrucker15 said:Persuade her.
Just check if your mom's supply is the extended-release version or not.

Sending strength

She said she sent over all the instructions and the lab results so I’d know exactly what I’m taking and how to be careful with it, because obviously, she's worried about me... even though I once took her 100mg Quetiapine in the afternoon and woke up two or three hours later feeling totally fine, zero side effects. Meanwhile, my brother—who is 34 years old, so don't go thinking he's some kid—took half of it, just 50mg, and came back to her the next day absolutely losing his mind over her pill. I mean, seriously, we are all different. Everyone has a unique body, a different liver, whatever... For me, high doses don't really bother me, and honestly, some medications don't even seem to affect me at all, which I've mentioned before, whereas someone else might pass out from a standard dose of Norvasc...

jadehawk8 said:http://www.nytimes.com/Lifestyle/Health...im-djelovanjem

Total 😉sensationalism.

We already have antidepressants that hit multiple neurotransmitters, like Velafax 🙂

..there was a massive 92 percent jump, and back in 2013 alone
over 53 million prescriptions were written for this kind of med..

money, money, money
has to be "funny"
in the rich man's world
money, money, money
always sunny
in the rich man's world

related article: even the penguins are on antidepressants

Michael Hill2 said:Total 😉sensationalism.

We already have antidepressants that hit multiple neurotransmitters, like Velafax 🙂

Yes, stating the obvious. Given how much we all differ as individuals, if we weren't, everyone would just be on Valtrex—everyone with the same diagnosis could just live in a perfectly peaceful USA.

Does anyone know why certain medications are discontinued here in the States, yet remain available in places like Canada or Mexico? I am not suggesting they are being pulled due to safety concerns—if we can even ignore the inherent risks of any pill. For instance, take the anxiolytic Ansilam, or the antidepressants Anafranil and Devidon.
In my view, while I don't personally require them, they had specific indications, and it seems counterproductive to limit the options available to psychiatrists. Furthermore, there is a constant influx of new generics which feels unnecessary, considering the price difference is negligible.
I ask because, excuse my bluntness, people would swallow anything if they thought it would make them feel better. This applies to all ailments, including our own struggles that are so difficult to overcome.

Skickas FR

ironrider11 said:..there was a massive 92 percent jump, and back in 2013 alone
over 53 million prescriptions were written for this kind of med..

money, money, money
has to be "funny"
in the rich man's world
money, money, money
always sunny
in the rich man's world

related article: even the penguins are on antidepressants

I agree that there is an over-prescription issue because psychotherapy is quite expensive. However, a conscientious psychiatrist will prescribe medication rather than just therapy if someone is truly struggling—specifically when things escalate into physical symptoms of anxiety, such as being unable to get out of bed for weeks, experiencing suicidal ideation, or feeling like you're suffocating. For everything else, a primary care physician might prescribe a bit of Xanax for standard stress. Furthermore, mental health is still heavily stigmatized here in the States, so I suspect most people won't even visit a specialist or mention it to their GP until they are facing those severe symptoms, unfortunately.
So, this 92 percent surge doesn't come as a surprise for the United Kingdom, given that people there aren't looked down upon for admitting they are in therapy.
The increase is happening here in America too, but I believe it is justified; there are people who would genuinely end their lives due to the crushing weight of credit card debt and loans.

Skickas FR

So, my Quetiapine finally arrived. Is that actually a longer name than Q-pin? 😕 Anyway, I’m officially set for a while, whether this stuff actually works or not. There are 60 tablets per box, and I have four boxes, which means 240 tablets total—basically enough for 240 nights. Just wonderful. 😁

shadowbear9 said:So, my Quetiapine finally arrived. Is that actually a longer name than Q-pin? 😕 Anyway, I’m officially set for a while, whether this stuff actually works or not. There are 60 tablets per box, and I have four boxes, which means 240 tablets total—basically enough for 240 nights. Just wonderful. 😁

Please, let me know how you slept.

Skickas FR

shadowbear9 said:So, my Quetiapine finally arrived. Is that actually a longer name than Q-pin? 😕 Anyway, I’m officially set for a while, whether this stuff actually works or not. There are 60 tablets per box, and I have four boxes, which means 240 tablets total—basically enough for 240 nights. Just wonderful. 😁

No, it isn't, but it falls under the same category as Q-pin in terms of antipsychotics.

Q-pin is Quetiapine.

Regarding types of antipsychotics...

From the same article: "High-dose Quetiapine therapy"

It happens that if there isn't a proper response to the prescribed therapy with other antipsychotics, then prescribing high doses of Quetiapine becomes clinically significant for patients who haven't responded well to previous treatments (we were using daily doses ranging from 300 mg to 1200 mg).
Quetiapine is considered an excellent choice for treating psychotic episodes in patients living with Alzheimer's disease."

restlesstiger49 said:I don't think so. Quetiapine is actually the active ingredient in Q-pin. 🤷

One time I took 25mg. Within thirty minutes, I was absolutely floored. And yeah, I dealt with those exact same side effects you mentioned. It took me half the day just to feel human again. For me, that dose works best for anxiety if I take it during the day, though thankfully I've never taken it then because I would've passed out at my desk.

My doctor put me on 200 mg, and you're already dying from just 25?! 😲 😲
Starting 200 mg of Quetiapine and 20 mg of Prozac tomorrow.

I personally know quite a few people who have managed to steer clear of taking their prescribed medications entirely. It’s funny how that works, isn't it? And, if I may digress for a moment—people struggling with anxiety or even depressive episodes often deal with these subtle breathing irregularities without ever actually realizing it. They just feel off, you know? Of course, those breathing issues trigger a whole cascade of other physical side effects, which then leads these individuals to become absolutely convinced they're suffering from some catastrophic, life-threatening illness. In most cases, though, these are perfectly treatable conditions.

I suppose I should address what restlesstrucker15 was getting at earlier. Honestly, it’s just frustrating how people try to oversimplify things when we know better. I mean, maybe they think they have a point, but I find the whole argument to be incredibly shortsighted. It’s almost laughable, really. If you actually look at the facts—and I do suggest doing that before jumping to conclusions—you’ll see how flawed the logic is. I guess some people just prefer an easy answer over the truth, which is just exhausting to deal with.

fadedbear92 said:No, it isn't, but it falls under the same category as Q-pin in terms of antipsychotics.

Q-pin is Quetiapine.

Regarding types of antipsychotics...

From the same article: "High-dose Quetiapine therapy"

It happens that if there isn't a proper response to the prescribed therapy with other antipsychotics, then prescribing high doses of Quetiapine becomes clinically significant for patients who haven't responded well to previous treatments (we were using daily doses ranging from 300 mg to 1200 mg).
Quetiapine is considered an excellent choice for treating psychotic episodes in patients living with Alzheimer's disease."

Well, I don't know about that... I suspect it isn't quite that simple.

"Contains the active ingredient Quetiapine"... yeah, that's exactly what it says on the box, too.

So, here’s how it went down. I took half a dose around 8:00, and I kept studying until about 8:30 without noticing any real change. Since nothing was happening, I decided to take the second half. Suddenly, this wave of exhaustion just hit me out of nowhere, so I laid down. I was tossing and turning a bit, and then, I guess just to be safe, I took some Amyzol... and I didn't wake up again until 2:00. 🙂 Is it even possible that absolutely nothing is working for me? I mean, seriously, how am I supposed to actually get hold of anything if nothing seems to have any effect?🙂 I’m going to take that canister of gas from beside my bed just to act like some kind of anesthesia to knock me out... because honestly, when it comes to actually sleeping, I feel like I’m constantly waking up mid-cycle. It isn't deep sleep at all. Right now, I don't even feel groggy or tired. Up until this point, the only thing that seemed to work was taking 4 or 5 milligrams of Amyzol, but if I'm not allowed to do that, I might as well just poison myself. 🙄 I suppose it’s highly probable that the Amyzol will end up being toxic, if you ask me. 🤣

shadowbear9 said:I suppose I should address what restlesstrucker15 was getting at earlier. Honestly, it’s just frustrating how people try to oversimplify things when we know better. I mean, maybe they think they have a point, but I find the whole argument to be incredibly shortsighted. It’s almost laughable, really. If you actually look at the facts—and I do suggest doing that before jumping to conclusions—you’ll see how flawed the logic is. I guess some people just prefer an easy answer over the truth, which is just exhausting to deal with.

Well, I don't know about that... I suspect it isn't quite that simple.

"Contains the active ingredient Quetiapine"... yeah, that's exactly what it says on the box, too.

So, here’s how it went down. I took half a dose around 8:00, and I kept studying until about 8:30 without noticing any real change. Since nothing was happening, I decided to take the second half. Suddenly, this wave of exhaustion just hit me out of nowhere, so I laid down. I was tossing and turning a bit, and then, I guess just to be safe, I took some Amyzol... and I didn't wake up again until 2:00. 🙂 Is it even possible that absolutely nothing is working for me? I mean, seriously, how am I supposed to actually get hold of anything if nothing seems to have any effect?🙂 I’m going to take that canister of gas from beside my bed just to act like some kind of anesthesia to knock me out... because honestly, when it comes to actually sleeping, I feel like I’m constantly waking up mid-cycle. It isn't deep sleep at all. Right now, I don't even feel groggy or tired. Up until this point, the only thing that seemed to work was taking 4 or 5 milligrams of Amyzol, but if I'm not allowed to do that, I might as well just poison myself. 🙄 I suppose it’s highly probable that the Amyzol will end up being toxic, if you ask me. 🤣

What dose are you taking to get some sleep? It sounds way too low—honestly, my cousin told me that with APs, you can actually bump up the dosage without having to worry about getting hooked.

shadowbear9 said:I suppose I should address what restlesstrucker15 was getting at earlier. Honestly, it’s just frustrating how people try to oversimplify things when we know better. I mean, maybe they think they have a point, but I find the whole argument to be incredibly shortsighted. It’s almost laughable, really. If you actually look at the facts—and I do suggest doing that before jumping to conclusions—you’ll see how flawed the logic is. I guess some people just prefer an easy answer over the truth, which is just exhausting to deal with.

Well, I don't know about that... I suspect it isn't quite that simple.

"Contains the active ingredient Quetiapine"... yeah, that's exactly what it says on the box, too.

So, here’s how it went down. I took half a dose around 8:00, and I kept studying until about 8:30 without noticing any real change. Since nothing was happening, I decided to take the second half. Suddenly, this wave of exhaustion just hit me out of nowhere, so I laid down. I was tossing and turning a bit, and then, I guess just to be safe, I took some Amyzol... and I didn't wake up again until 2:00. 🙂 Is it even possible that absolutely nothing is working for me? I mean, seriously, how am I supposed to actually get hold of anything if nothing seems to have any effect?🙂 I’m going to take that canister of gas from beside my bed just to act like some kind of anesthesia to knock me out... because honestly, when it comes to actually sleeping, I feel like I’m constantly waking up mid-cycle. It isn't deep sleep at all. Right now, I don't even feel groggy or tired. Up until this point, the only thing that seemed to work was taking 4 or 5 milligrams of Amyzol, but if I'm not allowed to do that, I might as well just poison myself. 🙄 I suppose it’s highly probable that the Amyzol will end up being toxic, if you ask me. 🤣

How many mg is that Amyzol you were talking about?