Psychotropic medication discussion thread

Right now, I’m hanging on by a thread with a mix of 100 Q-Pin, 60 Remeron, 10 Sanval, and 5 Cerson.

I honestly feel like I’m running out of options... even this specific combination is probably going to stop working for me in about a week.
What I really need is just a few months of stability without having to go through a detox, but man, that feels totally impossible right now!
Just one single night without my meds? It's absolute hell.

Robin Hernandez8 said:Right now, I’m hanging on by a thread with a mix of 100 Q-Pin, 60 Remeron, 10 Sanval, and 5 Cerson.

I honestly feel like I’m running out of options... even this specific combination is probably going to stop working for me in about a week.
What I really need is just a few months of stability without having to go through a detox, but man, that feels totally impossible right now!
Just one single night without my meds? It's absolute hell.

To me, that cocktail sounds almost perfect, though I suppose I don't really know what specific issues you're dealing with or how much it actually suits your needs... personally, I've been off my meds for ten days now and I haven't really noticed a massive difference. Today, I'm planning to take Seroquel along with Sanval, because if I don't, I end up staying awake far too long and then I just sleep the entire next day away... but seriously, how could they even prescribe you Sanval and Cerson together?

shadowbear9 said:To me, that cocktail sounds almost perfect, though I suppose I don't really know what specific issues you're dealing with or how much it actually suits your needs... personally, I've been off my meds for ten days now and I haven't really noticed a massive difference. Today, I'm planning to take Seroquel along with Sanval, because if I don't, I end up staying awake far too long and then I just sleep the entire next day away... but seriously, how could they even prescribe you Sanval and Cerson together?

The thing is, my doctors have been swapping out my meds for years, trying all these strange little combinations, and I guess I've just become resistant to most of them.
I'm actually heading to see my psychiatrist now—he’s very reasonable when it comes to adjusting dosages, but maybe not so much regarding the actual root of my problem. See, I just can't seem to fall asleep without some kind of combination, and even then, everything wears off so fast.
It feels like every psychiatrist just goes in circles, cycling through the same old pills, different mixes, different doses... but nothing really sticks.
So, I’ve started doing it myself. The doses, the mixtures... this specific combo (Sanval and Cerson) is mine.
I know, I know, it’s probably not what I should be doing, but I've become addicted to whatever can actually knock me out. I don't really care about the antidepressant part... I mean, none of them seem to work for me anyway. Remeron is an antidepressant, but it helps me drift off, too.
If I don't take something to put me to sleep, I start having these full-on panic attacks and breakdowns. Like, literally. I feel like I'm losing my mind.

What kind of combination are you running?
Last night I took a quarter of a Xanax and some Sanval, but it didn't do the trick; I didn't drift off until around 5 or 6 in the morning, which left me feeling like a complete zombie all morning until I finally crashed again around 4 PM.
I saw my psychiatrist today, and we decided I’m going to stop taking the Sanval. She explained that there isn't much choice—you can't even get any sleep when you're dealing with physical pain (even two different narcotics don't help), so once they manage that part...
On top of everything, I have this intense anxiety about surgeries, anesthesia, and even just having people in the room with me. She mentioned she would reach out to some colleagues over at the Mayo Clinic to have them check in on me, reassuring me that there is always a solution. It’s a relief, honestly; at least I have a little bit of hope with my therapist.

Skickas FR

I’m sorry, I didn't realize what kind of combination you were putting together... Ugh, I get it. But please, don't let your psychiatrist isolate you from the reality of this; maybe ask about doubling the dose or something similar. I'm honestly a little nervous that mixing these might end up causing you harm.

Skickas FR

Goodness, please go see a psychiatrist; you have me genuinely concerned. Looking back at our conversation, I really think you shouldn't be mixing Cerson and Sanval. I am actually reaching out to the community here for some advice. If getting an appointment with a doctor isn't an option right now, I would personally rather taper off the Seroquel and just stick with Sanval if necessary, because this current combination feels a bit overwhelming.

Skickas FR

Robin Hernandez8 said:Right now, I’m hanging on by a thread with a mix of 100 Q-Pin, 60 Remeron, 10 Sanval, and 5 Cerson.

I honestly feel like I’m running out of options... even this specific combination is probably going to stop working for me in about a week.
What I really need is just a few months of stability without having to go through a detox, but man, that feels totally impossible right now!
Just one single night without my meds? It's absolute hell.

What are you taking the 100mg Q-Pin for?
And the Cerson?

I was looking up Cerson: "Nitrazepam belongs to the benzodiazepine class. It acts as a hypnotic, sedative, and anticonvulsant. Its muscle relaxant and anti-anxiety effects are somewhat milder"...."Therapeutic indications include

- sleep disturbances caused by overstimulation, anxiety, worry, conflict, tension, fatigue, and stress
- organic sleep disorders (as adjunctive therapy)
- epilepsy (myoclonic seizures in children, West syndrome, Lennox syndrome)"

Kimberly Morris said:Day 8 without my Lexapro... My brain is a literal dumpster fire right now.

Does anyone have a lead on a decent psychiatrist? I need someone who actually listens and won't just shovel a mountain of pills at me the second I walk in. I want a doctor who actually cares about the patient. Honestly, I don't care about the price tag or how far I have to drive..

Sorry if this is a bit out of line, but I’m seriously struggling here and could really use some help.. Feel free to DM me or drop a link where I can move this conversation over.😵

I can vouch for my own psychiatrist. A friend sent me to him, and he's been great. Here's the link with all his info:🙂
http://healthgrades.com/psychiatrist/dr-john-smith-example

The last time I saw him, he actually brought up the topic of pregnancy out of nowhere. He’s very much against prescribing psych meds to pregnant women unless it’s absolutely vital, so you definitely won't leave there feeling overmedicated.

He’s a total pro with tons of experience. I deal with OCD, so I’ve spent way too much time reading every corner of the internet about psych meds—I'm pretty picky—and I'm really happy with how much he knows.😁 He actually listens, and he’s always reachable by phone if an emergency pops up.

His biggest asset is just how much he's seen; he definitely has the expertise needed to handle cases involving pregnancy.😉

Anyway, that's my vote. Highly recommend.🙂

Michael Hill2 said:I can vouch for my own psychiatrist. A friend sent me to him, and he's been great. Here's the link with all his info:🙂
http://healthgrades.com/psychiatrist/dr-john-smith-example

The last time I saw him, he actually brought up the topic of pregnancy out of nowhere. He’s very much against prescribing psych meds to pregnant women unless it’s absolutely vital, so you definitely won't leave there feeling overmedicated.

He’s a total pro with tons of experience. I deal with OCD, so I’ve spent way too much time reading every corner of the internet about psych meds—I'm pretty picky—and I'm really happy with how much he knows.😁 He actually listens, and he’s always reachable by phone if an emergency pops up.

His biggest asset is just how much he's seen; he definitely has the expertise needed to handle cases involving pregnancy.😉

Anyway, that's my vote. Highly recommend.🙂

I have been seeing him for seven years now, and he has quite literally saved my life on numerous occasions; he is an exceptional pharmacologist, attentive, patient, pleasant, and yes, available by phone at any hour.
I give him my full recommendation.

restlesstrucker15 said:Goodness, please go see a psychiatrist; you have me genuinely concerned. Looking back at our conversation, I really think you shouldn't be mixing Cerson and Sanval. I am actually reaching out to the community here for some advice. If getting an appointment with a doctor isn't an option right now, I would personally rather taper off the Seroquel and just stick with Sanval if necessary, because this current combination feels a bit overwhelming.

Skickas FR

So... why on earth aren't Cersan and Sanval working together? I mean, look, I’m definitely no expert—I'm just out here playing pretend like I actually know what I'm talking about. Gosh, I can be so full of myself sometimes, haha! 😵
So, here’s the thing... I actually tried that cocktail without any Sanval in it, and honestly? Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Then I gave it a shot without the Cerson, and still... nothing happens. It’s like it just doesn't hit the spot at all. I guess... maybe... if I were to just cut out the Cerson entirely and then try bumping up the Q-pin even higher, that might actually do something? It’s probably a long shot, but who knows, maybe that's the trick to making it work.

I guess if I actually sat down with my therapist and laid everything out on the table... I don't know, it probably wouldn't end well. It feels like a bad move. And honestly? I doubt they’d even be able to help much by just handing me some perfect little prescription cocktail. They just don't seem to get it. Like, they don't realize that I can't exactly spend an entire week sipping on some carefully balanced, "reasonable" dosage they've concocted... because at the end of the day, it just doesn't put me to sleep. It just doesn't work like that for me.

I suppose I should probably start by saying that... well, I don't even know if there's much to say about rejoflajt. It feels like one of those things where you just kind of stare at it for a second, wondering if you missed the point entirely, though maybe I did. I guess. Anyway, it’s just sitting there, isn't it? Just sort of existing. I mean, I could ramble on about it, I really could, but what would be the point? Maybe I'm overthinking it. I probably am. Always am. Regardless, it's just... yeah. There it is. kaže:
So, I was just sitting here thinking... what exactly is the reason behind someone taking a 100 mg Q-pin? I mean, I guess there isn't one single answer, right? It really depends on the person, I suppose. Maybe it's for chronic pain management, or perhaps someone is dealing with something much more intense that requires a specific dosage level. It’s kind of a heavy question when you think about it, honestly. I'm just wondering about the motivation behind that specific strength.
I mean... is there even a person here? I guess I’m just talking to myself at this point, maybe? It feels a bit like shouting into a canyon out in the Rockies, honestly. Just... empty space. Anyway, hello? Is anyone actually around?

I’ve been reading about... I mean, I was just sitting here, scrolling through some articles, and I started reading about... well, it's hard to even put into words, but I've been diving deep into this topic lately. It's one of those things that just grabs you, I guess. You start with one small thing, maybe a headline or a quick snippet, and before you know it, you're three hours down a rabbit hole. I suppose it's a bit of a distraction, really, but a fascinating one. Anyway, I was just thinking... I guess I should probably start by saying that I don't really know much about this specific topic... I mean, I've read a little bit, but I'm certainly no expert. It’s all just a bit overwhelming, isn't it? Anyway, I was thinking about how things seem to be shifting lately, especially with how everyone is reacting to the news coming out of D.C. It feels like everything is moving so fast, almost too fast to keep up with, if that makes sense. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, though. I tend to do that. But there's just this sense of... I don't even know, a certain tension in the air? It's hard to put my finger on it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how it all unfolds, won't we? Hopefully, things settle down eventually. That would be nice.So, I was looking into Nitrazepam the other day—it’s part of that benzodiazepine family, you know? It basically works as a hypnotic and a sedative, plus it has some anticonvulsant properties too. I guess... maybe it's a little less effective when you're looking at it for muscle relaxation or as an anti-anxiety med, though it still does something there. As for what it's actually used for clinically... well, the therapeutic indications are...

I guess... I don’t know, it’s just one of those things where everything seems to pile up at once, right? Like, you’re dealing with all this constant overstimulation—just way too much noise and activity everywhere—and then the anxiety starts creeping in. And honestly, it's a bit of a cycle. You've got the worry, the nagging little conflicts with people, that heavy feeling of being totally burnt out... it’s just a lot of stress. It really wears you down. And then, when you finally lay your head down, your brain just won't shut off. Everything feels so tense, and you're just exhausted, yet somehow, sleep feels miles away. Maybe it's just me, but it's like the more stressed you get, the harder it is to actually rest. It's tough.
So, I’ve been thinking lately... about those organic sleep disorders—you know, the ones where it isn't just about stress or having too much caffeine before bed, but something actually physical going on under the hood? It's a bit heavy, I guess. But regarding that whole thing... about using additional therapies to help manage it... well, I feel like there's so much more to explore there. Maybe it's worth looking into supplemental approaches, though I suppose everyone's body reacts so differently. It’s a lot to wrap one's head around, really.
So, I was reading up on epilepsy the other day—it’s such a heavy topic, isn't it?—and specifically those myoclonic seizures in kids. It's just... well, it's a lot to process. You have things like West syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome popping up in the medical literature, and honestly, it feels so overwhelming when you start digging into the complexities of how these neurological patterns manifest in little ones. I guess it's one of those things where you realize just how much goes on beneath the surface, even when everything seems quiet. It's quite intense, really. Maybe that's why it feels so daunting for families navigating the diagnosis.

I mean, I honestly think I might be the most hooked on Sanval and Mirzatene out of everyone here. It’s a bit much, I guess. I only actually started taking them recently, too... just lately, really.
So, I actually started on Q-Pin pretty recently... you know, right after they phased out Cerson? And before that whole thing, it was Sanval. But honestly, I don't know... I'm just not feeling the Q-Pin combined with Mirzaten. At least, not at these specific doses—taking the 100 along with the 60. It just doesn't seem to be doing much for me. I guess. Maybe it's just me, but I'm really not sure.

Robin Hernandez8 said:So... why on earth aren't Cersan and Sanval working together? I mean, look, I’m definitely no expert—I'm just out here playing pretend like I actually know what I'm talking about. Gosh, I can be so full of myself sometimes, haha! 😵
So, here’s the thing... I actually tried that cocktail without any Sanval in it, and honestly? Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Then I gave it a shot without the Cerson, and still... nothing happens. It’s like it just doesn't hit the spot at all. I guess... maybe... if I were to just cut out the Cerson entirely and then try bumping up the Q-pin even higher, that might actually do something? It’s probably a long shot, but who knows, maybe that's the trick to making it work.

I guess if I actually sat down with my therapist and laid everything out on the table... I don't know, it probably wouldn't end well. It feels like a bad move. And honestly? I doubt they’d even be able to help much by just handing me some perfect little prescription cocktail. They just don't seem to get it. Like, they don't realize that I can't exactly spend an entire week sipping on some carefully balanced, "reasonable" dosage they've concocted... because at the end of the day, it just doesn't put me to sleep. It just doesn't work like that for me.

I suppose I should probably start by saying that... well, I don't even know if there's much to say about rejoflajt. It feels like one of those things where you just kind of stare at it for a second, wondering if you missed the point entirely, though maybe I did. I guess. Anyway, it’s just sitting there, isn't it? Just sort of existing. I mean, I could ramble on about it, I really could, but what would be the point? Maybe I'm overthinking it. I probably am. Always am. Regardless, it's just... yeah. There it is. kaže:
So, I was just sitting here thinking... what exactly is the reason behind someone taking a 100 mg Q-pin? I mean, I guess there isn't one single answer, right? It really depends on the person, I suppose. Maybe it's for chronic pain management, or perhaps someone is dealing with something much more intense that requires a specific dosage level. It’s kind of a heavy question when you think about it, honestly. I'm just wondering about the motivation behind that specific strength.
I mean... is there even a person here? I guess I’m just talking to myself at this point, maybe? It feels a bit like shouting into a canyon out in the Rockies, honestly. Just... empty space. Anyway, hello? Is anyone actually around?

I’ve been reading about... I mean, I was just sitting here, scrolling through some articles, and I started reading about... well, it's hard to even put into words, but I've been diving deep into this topic lately. It's one of those things that just grabs you, I guess. You start with one small thing, maybe a headline or a quick snippet, and before you know it, you're three hours down a rabbit hole. I suppose it's a bit of a distraction, really, but a fascinating one. Anyway, I was just thinking... I guess I should probably start by saying that I don't really know much about this specific topic... I mean, I've read a little bit, but I'm certainly no expert. It’s all just a bit overwhelming, isn't it? Anyway, I was thinking about how things seem to be shifting lately, especially with how everyone is reacting to the news coming out of D.C. It feels like everything is moving so fast, almost too fast to keep up with, if that makes sense. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, though. I tend to do that. But there's just this sense of... I don't even know, a certain tension in the air? It's hard to put my finger on it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how it all unfolds, won't we? Hopefully, things settle down eventually. That would be nice.So, I was looking into Nitrazepam the other day—it’s part of that benzodiazepine family, you know? It basically works as a hypnotic and a sedative, plus it has some anticonvulsant properties too. I guess... maybe it's a little less effective when you're looking at it for muscle relaxation or as an anti-anxiety med, though it still does something there. As for what it's actually used for clinically... well, the therapeutic indications are...

I guess... I don’t know, it’s just one of those things where everything seems to pile up at once, right? Like, you’re dealing with all this constant overstimulation—just way too much noise and activity everywhere—and then the anxiety starts creeping in. And honestly, it's a bit of a cycle. You've got the worry, the nagging little conflicts with people, that heavy feeling of being totally burnt out... it’s just a lot of stress. It really wears you down. And then, when you finally lay your head down, your brain just won't shut off. Everything feels so tense, and you're just exhausted, yet somehow, sleep feels miles away. Maybe it's just me, but it's like the more stressed you get, the harder it is to actually rest. It's tough.
So, I’ve been thinking lately... about those organic sleep disorders—you know, the ones where it isn't just about stress or having too much caffeine before bed, but something actually physical going on under the hood? It's a bit heavy, I guess. But regarding that whole thing... about using additional therapies to help manage it... well, I feel like there's so much more to explore there. Maybe it's worth looking into supplemental approaches, though I suppose everyone's body reacts so differently. It’s a lot to wrap one's head around, really.
So, I was reading up on epilepsy the other day—it’s such a heavy topic, isn't it?—and specifically those myoclonic seizures in kids. It's just... well, it's a lot to process. You have things like West syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome popping up in the medical literature, and honestly, it feels so overwhelming when you start digging into the complexities of how these neurological patterns manifest in little ones. I guess it's one of those things where you realize just how much goes on beneath the surface, even when everything seems quiet. It's quite intense, really. Maybe that's why it feels so daunting for families navigating the diagnosis.

I mean, I honestly think I might be the most hooked on Sanval and Mirzatene out of everyone here. It’s a bit much, I guess. I only actually started taking them recently, too... just lately, really.
So, I actually started on Q-Pin pretty recently... you know, right after they phased out Cerson? And before that whole thing, it was Sanval. But honestly, I don't know... I'm just not feeling the Q-Pin combined with Mirzaten. At least, not at these specific doses—taking the 100 along with the 60. It just doesn't seem to be doing much for me. I guess. Maybe it's just me, but I'm really not sure.

Are you taking Mirzaten at that dose for depression, anxiety, or what?

At that dosage, it stops acting like a sedative compared to the smaller doses. When you're under 7.5 mg, it doesn't even touch the neurotransmitters; it just hits the histamine receptors to sedate you, kind of like a really heavy dose of Benadryl.

If Mirzaten isn't vital for your actual antidepressant needs, you could try taking a tiny amount—half or a quarter tablet—and it should knock you out. Sounds ridiculous, I know, but that's just how it works. Personally, I sleep on a sixth of a Mirzaten, half a Vegga, and I think someone else here, maybe Zvnox, takes it too. 😉

Robin Hernandez8 said:So... why on earth aren't Cersan and Sanval working together? I mean, look, I’m definitely no expert—I'm just out here playing pretend like I actually know what I'm talking about. Gosh, I can be so full of myself sometimes, haha! 😵
So, here’s the thing... I actually tried that cocktail without any Sanval in it, and honestly? Nothing. Zip. Zilch. Then I gave it a shot without the Cerson, and still... nothing happens. It’s like it just doesn't hit the spot at all. I guess... maybe... if I were to just cut out the Cerson entirely and then try bumping up the Q-pin even higher, that might actually do something? It’s probably a long shot, but who knows, maybe that's the trick to making it work.

I guess if I actually sat down with my therapist and laid everything out on the table... I don't know, it probably wouldn't end well. It feels like a bad move. And honestly? I doubt they’d even be able to help much by just handing me some perfect little prescription cocktail. They just don't seem to get it. Like, they don't realize that I can't exactly spend an entire week sipping on some carefully balanced, "reasonable" dosage they've concocted... because at the end of the day, it just doesn't put me to sleep. It just doesn't work like that for me.

I suppose I should probably start by saying that... well, I don't even know if there's much to say about rejoflajt. It feels like one of those things where you just kind of stare at it for a second, wondering if you missed the point entirely, though maybe I did. I guess. Anyway, it’s just sitting there, isn't it? Just sort of existing. I mean, I could ramble on about it, I really could, but what would be the point? Maybe I'm overthinking it. I probably am. Always am. Regardless, it's just... yeah. There it is. kaže:
So, I was just sitting here thinking... what exactly is the reason behind someone taking a 100 mg Q-pin? I mean, I guess there isn't one single answer, right? It really depends on the person, I suppose. Maybe it's for chronic pain management, or perhaps someone is dealing with something much more intense that requires a specific dosage level. It’s kind of a heavy question when you think about it, honestly. I'm just wondering about the motivation behind that specific strength.
I mean... is there even a person here? I guess I’m just talking to myself at this point, maybe? It feels a bit like shouting into a canyon out in the Rockies, honestly. Just... empty space. Anyway, hello? Is anyone actually around?

I’ve been reading about... I mean, I was just sitting here, scrolling through some articles, and I started reading about... well, it's hard to even put into words, but I've been diving deep into this topic lately. It's one of those things that just grabs you, I guess. You start with one small thing, maybe a headline or a quick snippet, and before you know it, you're three hours down a rabbit hole. I suppose it's a bit of a distraction, really, but a fascinating one. Anyway, I was just thinking... I guess I should probably start by saying that I don't really know much about this specific topic... I mean, I've read a little bit, but I'm certainly no expert. It’s all just a bit overwhelming, isn't it? Anyway, I was thinking about how things seem to be shifting lately, especially with how everyone is reacting to the news coming out of D.C. It feels like everything is moving so fast, almost too fast to keep up with, if that makes sense. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, though. I tend to do that. But there's just this sense of... I don't even know, a certain tension in the air? It's hard to put my finger on it. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how it all unfolds, won't we? Hopefully, things settle down eventually. That would be nice.So, I was looking into Nitrazepam the other day—it’s part of that benzodiazepine family, you know? It basically works as a hypnotic and a sedative, plus it has some anticonvulsant properties too. I guess... maybe it's a little less effective when you're looking at it for muscle relaxation or as an anti-anxiety med, though it still does something there. As for what it's actually used for clinically... well, the therapeutic indications are...

I guess... I don’t know, it’s just one of those things where everything seems to pile up at once, right? Like, you’re dealing with all this constant overstimulation—just way too much noise and activity everywhere—and then the anxiety starts creeping in. And honestly, it's a bit of a cycle. You've got the worry, the nagging little conflicts with people, that heavy feeling of being totally burnt out... it’s just a lot of stress. It really wears you down. And then, when you finally lay your head down, your brain just won't shut off. Everything feels so tense, and you're just exhausted, yet somehow, sleep feels miles away. Maybe it's just me, but it's like the more stressed you get, the harder it is to actually rest. It's tough.
So, I’ve been thinking lately... about those organic sleep disorders—you know, the ones where it isn't just about stress or having too much caffeine before bed, but something actually physical going on under the hood? It's a bit heavy, I guess. But regarding that whole thing... about using additional therapies to help manage it... well, I feel like there's so much more to explore there. Maybe it's worth looking into supplemental approaches, though I suppose everyone's body reacts so differently. It’s a lot to wrap one's head around, really.
So, I was reading up on epilepsy the other day—it’s such a heavy topic, isn't it?—and specifically those myoclonic seizures in kids. It's just... well, it's a lot to process. You have things like West syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome popping up in the medical literature, and honestly, it feels so overwhelming when you start digging into the complexities of how these neurological patterns manifest in little ones. I guess it's one of those things where you realize just how much goes on beneath the surface, even when everything seems quiet. It's quite intense, really. Maybe that's why it feels so daunting for families navigating the diagnosis.

I mean, I honestly think I might be the most hooked on Sanval and Mirzatene out of everyone here. It’s a bit much, I guess. I only actually started taking them recently, too... just lately, really.
So, I actually started on Q-Pin pretty recently... you know, right after they phased out Cerson? And before that whole thing, it was Sanval. But honestly, I don't know... I'm just not feeling the Q-Pin combined with Mirzaten. At least, not at these specific doses—taking the 100 along with the 60. It just doesn't seem to be doing much for me. I guess. Maybe it's just me, but I'm really not sure.

You're playing around with some pretty heavy-duty meds here; you really need to have an honest talk with your doctor ASAP.

Michael Hill2 said:Are you taking Mirzaten at that dose for depression, anxiety, or what?

At that dosage, it stops acting like a sedative compared to the smaller doses. When you're under 7.5 mg, it doesn't even touch the neurotransmitters; it just hits the histamine receptors to sedate you, kind of like a really heavy dose of Benadryl.

If Mirzaten isn't vital for your actual antidepressant needs, you could try taking a tiny amount—half or a quarter tablet—and it should knock you out. Sounds ridiculous, I know, but that's just how it works. Personally, I sleep on a sixth of a Mirzaten, half a Vegga, and I think someone else here, maybe Zvnox, takes it too. 😉

No, I was using Lexapro as my main antidepressant... well, I *was*. I actually stopped taking it entirely.
Hmm... but how would I even get to a dose like that? My Mirzaten is 30mg... It honestly feels impossible because I started at 30, then after two weeks it wasn't working anymore, so I went to 45, then two more weeks passed and I moved to 60. But okay, I suppose I could try a quarter of a pill one day.

fadedbear92 said:You're playing around with some pretty heavy-duty meds here; you really need to have an honest talk with your doctor ASAP.

It’s not like anyone actually cares, though.
How did I even end up on all these heavy-duty pills in the first place?
I had overdosed on them before, so it was only logical that they treated me like some kind of lab rat... they just kept loading this suicidal kid up with all sorts of different tablets. And I was just a suicidal kid who, honestly, loved pills. Pretty soon, I started mixing them myself, and now, years later, I just can't seem to stop.
And what would even happen if I actually told him what I'm doing?

Robin Hernandez8 said:No, I was using Lexapro as my main antidepressant... well, I *was*. I actually stopped taking it entirely.
Hmm... but how would I even get to a dose like that? My Mirzaten is 30mg... It honestly feels impossible because I started at 30, then after two weeks it wasn't working anymore, so I went to 45, then two more weeks passed and I moved to 60. But okay, I suppose I could try a quarter of a pill one day.

It’s not like anyone actually cares, though.
How did I even end up on all these heavy-duty pills in the first place?
I had overdosed on them before, so it was only logical that they treated me like some kind of lab rat... they just kept loading this suicidal kid up with all sorts of different tablets. And I was just a suicidal kid who, honestly, loved pills. Pretty soon, I started mixing them myself, and now, years later, I just can't seem to stop.
And what would even happen if I actually told him what I'm doing?

Don't be mad at Ray, she's just worried, just like me. We care.🙂🙂

Look, my therapist told me straight up that insomnia is never its own isolated issue. It’s always just a symptom of either anxiety or depression. That’s why there’s no point trying to fix it with hypnotics, benzos, or any other sleep crap—you aren't treating the cause, just the side effect.

You have to get your depression under control first. If Cipralex isn't doing the job, you need to find a different antidepressant that actually works for you. You just have to find the right one.

Once the primary issue is handled, your sleep usually settles down on its own.

I'm also a little confused—if you were taking Cipralex as your main med, why were you prescribed 30mg of Mirzaten to start? You never start that high. If Mirzaten is just meant to help you sleep, you've got a bad doctor. They should know Mirzaten is taken in tiny doses for sleep.

If you suddenly stopped taking Cipralex, you're probably feeling like hell and sleeping even worse because you didn't taper off properly. You just cut it off.

So, here’s my advice:

- Find a decent doctor you actually trust to find an antidepressant that stabilizes your baseline condition.
- If you have those 30mg Mirzaten pills, try tapering off slowly by using a quarter pill over the next few days; you should sleep better that way.

If your doctor doesn't give a damn about you, there are plenty of responsible doctors out there who will actually work to find the best solution for you. Don't just stop your meds or mess with the dosages on your own without a schedule. Doing that puts your body into total shock and just makes you feel worse.

Good luck. If no one else cares, I care.🙂

Michael Hill2 said:Don't be mad at Ray, she's just worried, just like me. We care.🙂🙂

Look, my therapist told me straight up that insomnia is never its own isolated issue. It’s always just a symptom of either anxiety or depression. That’s why there’s no point trying to fix it with hypnotics, benzos, or any other sleep crap—you aren't treating the cause, just the side effect.

You have to get your depression under control first. If Cipralex isn't doing the job, you need to find a different antidepressant that actually works for you. You just have to find the right one.

Once the primary issue is handled, your sleep usually settles down on its own.

I'm also a little confused—if you were taking Cipralex as your main med, why were you prescribed 30mg of Mirzaten to start? You never start that high. If Mirzaten is just meant to help you sleep, you've got a bad doctor. They should know Mirzaten is taken in tiny doses for sleep.

If you suddenly stopped taking Cipralex, you're probably feeling like hell and sleeping even worse because you didn't taper off properly. You just cut it off.

So, here’s my advice:

- Find a decent doctor you actually trust to find an antidepressant that stabilizes your baseline condition.
- If you have those 30mg Mirzaten pills, try tapering off slowly by using a quarter pill over the next few days; you should sleep better that way.

If your doctor doesn't give a damn about you, there are plenty of responsible doctors out there who will actually work to find the best solution for you. Don't just stop your meds or mess with the dosages on your own without a schedule. Doing that puts your body into total shock and just makes you feel worse.

Good luck. If no one else cares, I care.🙂

Does anyone have any insight to share? My doctor evaluated me and said Coaxil was too weak for my needs, so she offered me Velafax or Cymbalta. I decided to go with Cymbalta myself—what kind of medication is it? Has anyone here used it? On top of that, she bumped my Seroquel up to 400...

shadowbear9 said:Does anyone have any insight to share? My doctor evaluated me and said Coaxil was too weak for my needs, so she offered me Velafax or Cymbalta. I decided to go with Cymbalta myself—what kind of medication is it? Has anyone here used it? On top of that, she bumped my Seroquel up to 400...

I haven't personally messed with Cymbalta, nor have I done a deep dive into it, but there are plenty of American forums where people vent about their experiences. You should probably check out 🙂

Just from a quick glance, both Cymblata and Velafax fall under that SNRI category, which basically means they're reuptake inhibitors. You might run into some sleep issues early on, which is likely why she put you on the Seroquel 😉

http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/in...ta-duloxetine/

http://www.patient.co.uk/forums/disc...ymbalta-216603

Michael Hill2 said:Don't be mad at Ray, she's just worried, just like me. We care.🙂🙂

Look, my therapist told me straight up that insomnia is never its own isolated issue. It’s always just a symptom of either anxiety or depression. That’s why there’s no point trying to fix it with hypnotics, benzos, or any other sleep crap—you aren't treating the cause, just the side effect.

You have to get your depression under control first. If Cipralex isn't doing the job, you need to find a different antidepressant that actually works for you. You just have to find the right one.

Once the primary issue is handled, your sleep usually settles down on its own.

I'm also a little confused—if you were taking Cipralex as your main med, why were you prescribed 30mg of Mirzaten to start? You never start that high. If Mirzaten is just meant to help you sleep, you've got a bad doctor. They should know Mirzaten is taken in tiny doses for sleep.

If you suddenly stopped taking Cipralex, you're probably feeling like hell and sleeping even worse because you didn't taper off properly. You just cut it off.

So, here’s my advice:

- Find a decent doctor you actually trust to find an antidepressant that stabilizes your baseline condition.
- If you have those 30mg Mirzaten pills, try tapering off slowly by using a quarter pill over the next few days; you should sleep better that way.

If your doctor doesn't give a damn about you, there are plenty of responsible doctors out there who will actually work to find the best solution for you. Don't just stop your meds or mess with the dosages on your own without a schedule. Doing that puts your body into total shock and just makes you feel worse.

Good luck. If no one else cares, I care.🙂

Oh, I'm not mad! I'm just... I don't know, frustrated with all these psychiatrists.
I've been seeing my current psych for about six months now, and after my last round of Zoloft failed to help, he switched me over to this. But let's be real, I've tried so many different antidepressants and I haven't really seen much of a difference.
I have no idea why he gave me such a huge dose of Mirzaten, but I suppose he was just trying to adjust my previous prescription.
With my previous doctor, I was on 45 mg of Mirzaten, and then... well, I just stopped taking everything on my own. I stopped going to appointments altogether... and after a while, I just completely broke down.
That's when I started seeing this one. I didn't trust him at first, but I think we're getting somewhere now.
But how good he actually is, or how much he can truly help me given my weird personality... I don't know. I don't really believe anyone can do much. I've cycled through so many doctors and they've all been bad. Though, I guess it might be me too... not just them.
I'll give the Mirzaten thing a shot and see what happens. Thank you. 🙂

Michael Hill2 said:I haven't personally messed with Cymbalta, nor have I done a deep dive into it, but there are plenty of American forums where people vent about their experiences. You should probably check out 🙂

Just from a quick glance, both Cymblata and Velafax fall under that SNRI category, which basically means they're reuptake inhibitors. You might run into some sleep issues early on, which is likely why she put you on the Seroquel 😉

http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/in...ta-duloxetine/

http://www.patient.co.uk/forums/disc...ymbalta-216603

I was on Cymbalta once, but the nausea and vomiting were just brutal. Now I've switched over to Effexor

Michael Hill2 said:I haven't personally messed with Cymbalta, nor have I done a deep dive into it, but there are plenty of American forums where people vent about their experiences. You should probably check out 🙂

Just from a quick glance, both Cymblata and Velafax fall under that SNRI category, which basically means they're reuptake inhibitors. You might run into some sleep issues early on, which is likely why she put you on the Seroquel 😉

http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/in...ta-duloxetine/

http://www.patient.co.uk/forums/disc...ymbalta-216603

I was specifically looking for something to boost my mood,

Robin Hernandez8 said:Oh, I'm not mad! I'm just... I don't know, frustrated with all these psychiatrists.
I've been seeing my current psych for about six months now, and after my last round of Zoloft failed to help, he switched me over to this. But let's be real, I've tried so many different antidepressants and I haven't really seen much of a difference.
I have no idea why he gave me such a huge dose of Mirzaten, but I suppose he was just trying to adjust my previous prescription.
With my previous doctor, I was on 45 mg of Mirzaten, and then... well, I just stopped taking everything on my own. I stopped going to appointments altogether... and after a while, I just completely broke down.
That's when I started seeing this one. I didn't trust him at first, but I think we're getting somewhere now.
But how good he actually is, or how much he can truly help me given my weird personality... I don't know. I don't really believe anyone can do much. I've cycled through so many doctors and they've all been bad. Though, I guess it might be me too... not just them.
I'll give the Mirzaten thing a shot and see what happens. Thank you. 🙂

So, you've tried Zoloft and Lexapro, which are two pretty similar ADs in the same SSRI class.

Don't give up on finding the right AD for you. If SSRIs aren't cutting it—and there are plenty of people for whom they just don't work—there are still tons of other options out there, like Effexor, which is an SNRI, or even some of those older TCAs. It just takes time to find the right fit.😉

I'm glad you finally found a psychiatrist you're starting to connect with. Unfortunately, psychiatry involves a lot of trial and error. If you haven't found the right AD yet, statistically speaking, you're due for one. Just don't throw in the towel; talk to your doctor. For crying out loud, their whole job is to help you.😉