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Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#9261 ·
Carol Barrett50 said:Make sure to tune in to HRT1 at 2:00 PM. We'll have psychiatrist Robert Torre joining us as a guest, and I think we’re going to get into some pretty deep discussions about psychotropic drugs—specifically how they're being overprescribed lately, almost as if they were just Tic Tac candies.

I had such high hopes for this, but honestly, he barely said anything of substance.
Kimberly Morris Kimberly Morris Active Member
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#9262 ·
Hey guys, how’s it going? Personally, I’m a total wreck... It’s been exactly three weeks since I abruptly quit my Lexapro. I just got out of the shower and everything went south—sudden shortness of breath, bone-dry mouth, lightheadedness, the shakes. Honestly, I legit thought I was dying. My mental health is trashed, my physical state is a mess, and I don’t have an emergency psych clinic nearby or anyone to turn to. Please, I need help. I am beyond desperate and honestly terrified right now.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#9263 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:I had such high hopes for this, but honestly, he barely said anything of substance.

Honestly, I don't know why anyone would expect anything intelligent from this guy. The only point I can actually get behind is
how we’re all essentially guinea pigs—at least until medical science develops better screening methods to check our neurotransmitter levels so doctors can prescribe the right medication immediately.
In the US, people are already incredibly hesitant to even see a psychiatrist, so imagine how they took his comments! According to him, everyone should probably visit a GP, a counselor, and various support groups before ever stepping foot in a psych clinic. Plus, he barely even mentioned psychotherapy. If he isn't cut out for the job he's doing, thank Bog there are others who actually are. He should just step away from psychiatry and specialize in orthopedics instead—since he clearly thinks they're jealous of him anyway.🤮
Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
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#9264 ·
fadedbear92 I can't even begin to explain how much this situation sucks. It’s just one of those things where you look around and realize everything is slightly broken, isn't it? Honestly, I'm just sitting here trying to make sense of it all, but my brain feels like it's running on low battery. Sometimes you just have to laugh so you don't end up reaching for the Xanax before noon. Just one of those days.
I honestly don't get how you could expect anything remotely intelligent from this guy. The only thing I can actually agree with him on is...
We’re basically just lab rats at this point. Until medicine figures out a way to actually see what's happening inside our heads, we're stuck guessing. I mean, regarding choosing an antidepressant—if we could just get a real-time look at our neurotransmitter levels, we wouldn't be playing this game of trial and error. We could actually pick the right med on day one instead of wasting months feeling like garbage.
People around here already struggle enough just to get through the door of a psychiatrist's office. I can't even imagine how they took his little rant. According to him, you should probably consult everyone from pop stars to various non-profits before you even think about seeing a doctor. He didn't say much about psychotherapy, though—not that anyone was asking. Look, if he’s really not cut out for the job, thank Bog there are actual professionals out there who are. He even claimed he should just quit psychiatry and specialize in orthopedics because "they're all jealous of him anyway." Typical. 🤮

Dr. Torre always knows exactly how to get under my skin. Honestly, I’d love to see his professional peers slap him with some kind of disciplinary action—maybe even pull his license altogether—just to shut down those ridiculous takes of his.

Look, we can't exactly run a blood test to get an exact count of neurotransmitters or whatever, but calling depression just "melancholy" is a massive slap in the face to everyone struggling here and everywhere else.

If Dr. Torre spent half as much time browsing the web as he does staring at his textbooks, he’d realize that diagnosing depression isn't just some vague guesswork. You can actually see the science behind it on a CT scan—you look for that increased amygdala activity and all that other clinical stuff. It’s right there if you bother to look. 🙄

He basically shut me down. He said something along the lines of how insomnia isn't even a real issue—certainly not a psychiatric one—and that I should just lean harder into prayer and seek more support from my community. Honestly, the guy clearly hasn't spent a single month without sleep. I’ve been at the point where I was literally calling on Bog to just take me, because by that stage, I wasn't even a functioning human being anymore. I was just a wreck.

Then there’s his big claim that anxiolytics are totally harmless—that it's all just some massive Big Pharma conspiracy to push antidepressants on anyone with a pulse. He thinks people should just stick to popping Xanax instead. As if you won't be choking down a handful of Xanax a day within a year, or ending up with a completely fried brain five years down the line. Real genius stuff.

Ugh, I really wish I hadn't watched that. Honestly, I have no idea why I even bothered getting worked up over it. 🤦
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#9265 ·
fadedbear92 said:Honestly, I don't know why anyone would expect anything intelligent from this guy. The only point I can actually get behind is
how we’re all essentially guinea pigs—at least until medical science develops better screening methods to check our neurotransmitter levels so doctors can prescribe the right medication immediately.
In the US, people are already incredibly hesitant to even see a psychiatrist, so imagine how they took his comments! According to him, everyone should probably visit a GP, a counselor, and various support groups before ever stepping foot in a psych clinic. Plus, he barely even mentioned psychotherapy. If he isn't cut out for the job he's doing, thank Bog there are others who actually are. He should just step away from psychiatry and specialize in orthopedics instead—since he clearly thinks they're jealous of him anyway.🤮

I find myself compelled to add my signature to this sentiment. 👍
While I was wading through those articles, several points really gave me pause and left me deep in thought, yet during yesterday’s session, it felt as though every single question was being masterfully sidestepped. He spent the entire time mumbling incoherently, fluttering through his words with such a lack of clarity that I could barely make sense of half of what he was saying—it was truly maddening. And yet, despite this frustrating display of evasion and verbal clutter, we are expected to just soldier on and move forward.🙂
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#9266 ·
Michael Hill2 said:
fadedbear92 I can't even begin to explain how much this situation sucks. It’s just one of those things where you look around and realize everything is slightly broken, isn't it? Honestly, I'm just sitting here trying to make sense of it all, but my brain feels like it's running on low battery. Sometimes you just have to laugh so you don't end up reaching for the Xanax before noon. Just one of those days.
I honestly don't get how you could expect anything remotely intelligent from this guy. The only thing I can actually agree with him on is...
We’re basically just lab rats at this point. Until medicine figures out a way to actually see what's happening inside our heads, we're stuck guessing. I mean, regarding choosing an antidepressant—if we could just get a real-time look at our neurotransmitter levels, we wouldn't be playing this game of trial and error. We could actually pick the right med on day one instead of wasting months feeling like garbage.
People around here already struggle enough just to get through the door of a psychiatrist's office. I can't even imagine how they took his little rant. According to him, you should probably consult everyone from pop stars to various non-profits before you even think about seeing a doctor. He didn't say much about psychotherapy, though—not that anyone was asking. Look, if he’s really not cut out for the job, thank Bog there are actual professionals out there who are. He even claimed he should just quit psychiatry and specialize in orthopedics because "they're all jealous of him anyway." Typical. 🤮

Dr. Torre always knows exactly how to get under my skin. Honestly, I’d love to see his professional peers slap him with some kind of disciplinary action—maybe even pull his license altogether—just to shut down those ridiculous takes of his.

Look, we can't exactly run a blood test to get an exact count of neurotransmitters or whatever, but calling depression just "melancholy" is a massive slap in the face to everyone struggling here and everywhere else.

If Dr. Torre spent half as much time browsing the web as he does staring at his textbooks, he’d realize that diagnosing depression isn't just some vague guesswork. You can actually see the science behind it on a CT scan—you look for that increased amygdala activity and all that other clinical stuff. It’s right there if you bother to look. 🙄

He basically shut me down. He said something along the lines of how insomnia isn't even a real issue—certainly not a psychiatric one—and that I should just lean harder into prayer and seek more support from my community. Honestly, the guy clearly hasn't spent a single month without sleep. I’ve been at the point where I was literally calling on Bog to just take me, because by that stage, I wasn't even a functioning human being anymore. I was just a wreck.

Then there’s his big claim that anxiolytics are totally harmless—that it's all just some massive Big Pharma conspiracy to push antidepressants on anyone with a pulse. He thinks people should just stick to popping Xanax instead. As if you won't be choking down a handful of Xanax a day within a year, or ending up with a completely fried brain five years down the line. Real genius stuff.

Ugh, I really wish I hadn't watched that. Honestly, I have no idea why I even bothered getting worked up over it. 🤦

And I wasn't even worked up, I just watched it and moved on...
but then again, Xanax doesn't affect everyone the same way; I've been taking it for five years and it works perfectly for me. I haven't reached a pill-a-day habit—in fact, I haven't even crossed the 1.5 mg threshold, and I can even go fifteen days on just 0.5 mg... but it still scares me whenever someone mentions having a "fried brain." What is that actually supposed to mean? Am I supposed to get a CT scan or something? Because I haven't felt anything unusual since I started taking it five years ago, and there isn't any antidepressant out there that can calm me down when my hypochondria kicks in and I start panicking over every little symptom... though I do take a small dose of Calixte for sleep and a little something else every other day... but seriously, just explain the "fried brain" thing to me, because I see it written everywhere and I need to know what I'm potentially facing.
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#9267 ·
Kimberly Morris said:Hey guys, how’s it going? Personally, I’m a total wreck... It’s been exactly three weeks since I abruptly quit my Lexapro. I just got out of the shower and everything went south—sudden shortness of breath, bone-dry mouth, lightheadedness, the shakes. Honestly, I legit thought I was dying. My mental health is trashed, my physical state is a mess, and I don’t have an emergency psych clinic nearby or anyone to turn to. Please, I need help. I am beyond desperate and honestly terrified right now.


I know things are incredibly difficult for you right now 😢 but this is almost certainly due to coming off the Lexapro... Just try to stay brave. If they prescribed you Norvasc or any similar calming medication, try to use it to help yourself through this. For instance, a close friend of mine was given 2 mg doses three times a day because she was also going through withdrawal, and she was also receiving IV fluids at Mayo Clinic due to pregnancy-related nausea. If you have something on hand, it might settle you down until you can actually see a psychiatrist.

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Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
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#9268 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:And I wasn't even worked up, I just watched it and moved on...
but then again, Xanax doesn't affect everyone the same way; I've been taking it for five years and it works perfectly for me. I haven't reached a pill-a-day habit—in fact, I haven't even crossed the 1.5 mg threshold, and I can even go fifteen days on just 0.5 mg... but it still scares me whenever someone mentions having a "fried brain." What is that actually supposed to mean? Am I supposed to get a CT scan or something? Because I haven't felt anything unusual since I started taking it five years ago, and there isn't any antidepressant out there that can calm me down when my hypochondria kicks in and I start panicking over every little symptom... though I do take a small dose of Calixte for sleep and a little something else every other day... but seriously, just explain the "fried brain" thing to me, because I see it written everywhere and I need to know what I'm potentially facing.

I didn't mean to scare you, Jason Vaughn482. I'm sure you're taking Xanax exactly how your doctor prescribed it, and they definitely know your medical history better than I ever could. 🙂

Everything is different for everyone. Personally, I nearly lost it reading through American forums like Benzobuddies.org, where people describe massive cognitive issues after long-term use—memory gaps, trouble concentrating, stuff like that. That’s all I meant by my stupid phrase "fried brain."

Again, your doctor knows best, and I'm really not trying to second-guess their treatment plan. 😉
Kevin Bailey2 Kevin Bailey2 Regular
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#9269 ·
Give me a break. I’m not letting anyone mess with my head.

I spent three years drowning in this stuff... and don't even get me started on the dosages. We're talking pills that make Xanax look like candy. Even before I was pregnant or dealing with childbirth, I was already stuck on some nasty cocktail of meds.

I finally quit about a month ago, and now? My brain is back in high gear, racing a thousand miles an hour, and I can't shut it off for the life of me.

And yeah... I’ve got these "cognitive issues" since stopping the meds, which is ironic because I’ve never felt more "cognitively aware" in my entire life.
I actually find myself feeling nostalgic for that medicated brain—the one that barely functioned at 1% of what people usually use.
Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
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#9270 ·
Kevin Bailey2 said:Give me a break. I’m not letting anyone mess with my head.

I spent three years drowning in this stuff... and don't even get me started on the dosages. We're talking pills that make Xanax look like candy. Even before I was pregnant or dealing with childbirth, I was already stuck on some nasty cocktail of meds.

I finally quit about a month ago, and now? My brain is back in high gear, racing a thousand miles an hour, and I can't shut it off for the life of me.

And yeah... I’ve got these "cognitive issues" since stopping the meds, which is ironic because I’ve never felt more "cognitively aware" in my entire life.
I actually find myself feeling nostalgic for that medicated brain—the one that barely functioned at 1% of what people usually use.

😁😁😁👍

I feel you, sis :klap:

My brain is way too loud, too. I’m on a sedative antidepressant, and there was a stretch where I was taking Ambien to sleep (and everyone knows how much that just knocks you out initially). Back then, my brain was running at maybe 1-2% capacity, and it was this blissful, numb silence. I actually liked being that mindless.🙂
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#9271 ·
Michael Hill2 said:I didn't mean to scare you, Jason Vaughn482. I'm sure you're taking Xanax exactly how your doctor prescribed it, and they definitely know your medical history better than I ever could. 🙂

Everything is different for everyone. Personally, I nearly lost it reading through American forums like Benzobuddies.org, where people describe massive cognitive issues after long-term use—memory gaps, trouble concentrating, stuff like that. That’s all I meant by my stupid phrase "fried brain."

Again, your doctor knows best, and I'm really not trying to second-guess their treatment plan. 😉

Oh, please, let’s be realistic here. While I certainly wouldn't object to having a little extra help if the situation ever demanded it, my own focus and memory remain absolutely razor-sharp for the time being. In fact, I can’t help but notice that my cognitive faculties are functioning significantly better than those of my own daughter. It is quite frankly a marvel; she struggles to recall even the most basic details of her day, like what she had for dinner last night, whereas I possess a mental ledger that would put an accountant to shame. I can tell you precisely what an item cost, exactly which store I picked it up from, and the specific date of purchase—even if that transaction took place a decade ago. For now, I have no reason to complain about my mental acuity, regardless of how many birthdays I've celebrated.
To be perfectly honest, I find myself paralyzed by a profound apprehension regarding antipsychotics; it is a truly harrowing sensation. There was a brief period in my life when I was prescribed Elavil at 50 mg, and the experience was nothing short of neurotic. I would spend upwards of half an hour just staring at a single pill, turning it over in my hands, inspecting it like some sort of suspicious artifact before I could even consider swallowing it. Once the act was finally done, I would sit there in a state of sheer dread, bracing myself for whatever psychological upheaval or physical catastrophe might follow. In retrospect, that entire ordeal felt utterly futile—a grueling exercise in futility. Contrast that with Xanax, which I can take with the casual indifference one might reserve for a piece of saltwater taffy. Yet, despite that relative ease, the underlying anxiety remains a persistent shadow. I’ve been reliving those same fears in my dreams lately, and the insomnia has become quite relentless. Consequently, I’ve found myself leaning on a bit of Lunesta and Cersan to bridge the gap, simply because sleep has become such an elusive luxury. It is a wearying cycle, truly.
My therapist seems to be leaning more toward AD or AP herself lately, though she’s smart enough to realize I have absolutely no intention of touching the AP stuff; she doesn't even bother suggesting it anymore. If you ask me, based on everything I've dug up and read, that AP medication feels like a ticking time bomb for your internal organs—it strikes me as being far more hazardous to one's physical health than the alternatives.
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#9272 ·
Michael Hill2 said:😁😁😁👍

I feel you, sis :klap:

My brain is way too loud, too. I’m on a sedative antidepressant, and there was a stretch where I was taking Ambien to sleep (and everyone knows how much that just knocks you out initially). Back then, my brain was running at maybe 1-2% capacity, and it was this blissful, numb silence. I actually liked being that mindless.🙂

Even the heavy hitters aren't cutting it for me anymore. I find that even at a mere 7.5 mg, the Lexapro doesn't provide that specific morning fog I used to rely on to numb the edges of the day. It’s a bit ironic, really; when I was taking the standard 15 mg dose, I would wake up feeling completely lethargic and spaced out, like I was wading through molasses just to reach the coffee pot. Now, despite knowing the typical therapeutic range spans anywhere from 15 to 45 mg, my current micro-dose leaves me feeling far too alert for my own comfort.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#9273 ·
Since you guys are bringing up Calixta, does she actually "elevate" things?
Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
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#9274 ·
restlesstiger49 said:Since you guys are bringing up Calixta, does she actually "elevate" things?

At a standard dose—say 45 mg—you'd expect things to pick up after those first two or three weeks once your body gets over the initial drowsiness. That’s what happens before you even hit the max ceiling of 45-60 mg, anyway. At least, that's what I've gathered from reading an endless amount of stuff online.

But if you're looking for a serious shot of adrenaline, Calixta isn't exactly going to be your go-to choice.😉
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#9275 ·
restlesstiger49 said:Since you guys are bringing up Calixta, does she actually "elevate" things?

I spent an entire year grinding through 15 mg doses, and let me tell you, there was nothing "uplifting" about it; rather than lifting you up, it felt more like being dragged straight to the bottom of a dark well, leaving nothing behind but constant lethargy, a perpetual fog, and a lingering sense of a hangover. Now that I've scaled back to 7.5 mg, things feel manageable, but I never even dared to touch those higher dosages because the warnings about massive weight gain are simply too terrifying to ignore.
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#9276 ·
Just providing an update on my situation—things are getting a bit hectic with the surgery coming up in ten days. The anesthesiologist told me today that I can take Xanax the day before. They plan to give me 15 mg of Doriden in the evening, even though I mentioned I’ve been using it for quite a while. My main concern is whether it will actually knock me out 😢 She told me not to mess around with Samuel.
Then, right before the procedure, I'll be back on 7.5 mg of Doriden. I might ask my therapist to give her a call, but I’m honestly not sure how she could help me sleep; I need to be fully lucid by morning for the anesthesia, not wandering around in a fog because of Callista or something similar 😢
It was a damned day when I accidentally took the Doriden instead of the Samuel.
The only thing I'd try is asking for two doses, but she won't budge on that, especially since she already gave me the whole 😁

Send FR
Kimberly Morris Kimberly Morris Active Member
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#9277 ·
restlesstrucker15;52826897 said:Just giving a heads up on my situation—surgery is in ten days. The anesthesiologist told me today that I can take Xanax the day before. Then they’ll give me 15 mg of Doriden at night, even though I mentioned I've been on it for a long time. My big worry is whether it’s actually gonna knock me out 😢 She said she doesn't mess around when it comes to Samuel.
And then right before the surgery, more Doriden at 7.5. I might beg my therapist to give her a call, but honestly, I don't know how she'd even get me to sleep since I need to be totally sharp by morning for the anesthesia. I can't be wandering around like a zombie because of Callista or whatever 😢
What a damned day it was when I accidentally took the Doriden instead of the Samuel.
I tried asking for two pills, but she won't budge—she already gave me the whole 😁 set.

So, what are you having operated on?

My brother-in-law is an anesthesiologist, so I can hit him up for a second opinion if you want?

Ever since I started dealing with this illness, I've been terrified of surgery. Every time I wake up, I'm hit with pure panic—every single day, even when I'm on Adderall. So imagine how bad that panic is going to feel after being under anesthesia and that "artificial" sleep? And what if I end up totally losing it? 🤦
Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
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#9278 ·
Kimberly Morris;52828749 said:
restlesstrucker15 said:Just providing an update on my situation—things are getting a bit hectic with the surgery coming up in ten days. The anesthesiologist told me today that I can take Xanax the day before. They plan to give me 15 mg of Doriden in the evening, even though I mentioned I’ve been using it for quite a while. My main concern is whether it will actually knock me out 😢 She told me not to mess around with Samuel.
Then, right before the procedure, I'll be back on 7.5 mg of Doriden. I might ask my therapist to give her a call, but I’m honestly not sure how she could help me sleep; I need to be fully lucid by morning for the anesthesia, not wandering around in a fog because of Callista or something similar 😢
It was a damned day when I accidentally took the Doriden instead of the Samuel.
The only thing I'd try is asking for two doses, but she won't budge on that, especially since she already gave me the whole 😁

Send FR

Even if it does turn into a C-section, you won't necessarily need full general anesthesia. You could just go with a spinal, which kills the pain but keeps you awake, so don't sweat it.🙂
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#9279 ·
Kimberly Morris;52828749 said:
restlesstrucker15 said:Just providing an update on my situation—things are getting a bit hectic with the surgery coming up in ten days. The anesthesiologist told me today that I can take Xanax the day before. They plan to give me 15 mg of Doriden in the evening, even though I mentioned I’ve been using it for quite a while. My main concern is whether it will actually knock me out 😢 She told me not to mess around with Samuel.
Then, right before the procedure, I'll be back on 7.5 mg of Doriden. I might ask my therapist to give her a call, but I’m honestly not sure how she could help me sleep; I need to be fully lucid by morning for the anesthesia, not wandering around in a fog because of Callista or something similar 😢
It was a damned day when I accidentally took the Doriden instead of the Samuel.
The only thing I'd try is asking for two doses, but she won't budge on that, especially since she already gave me the whole 😁

Send FR


Well, 😢 it seems we are all facing the same fears.
Are you having spinal anesthesia? 🙂 I've had spinal anesthesia twice myself for my scoliosis, but this time they have to go under general due to the nature of the procedure.
Feel free to ask him if you don't mind, though I'll also be discussing this with my therapist. I don't think we really need to worry about the anesthesia itself, as they'll make sure we're asleep. My main goal is just ensuring I get some actual rest beforehand. 🙂
She did tell me, "We can't keep you under spinal anesthesia indefinitely; if it drags on, you'll lose your mind, so it's better if you don't remember anything."
However, she didn't say anything about having to stop the Adderall or sedatives after the operation. That feels like a positive sign.

Sending love, friend.
brightsailor76 brightsailor76 Newcomer
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#9280 ·
Does anyone here have any insight into this medication? Is it technically classified as an anxiolytic, or something else entirely? I’ve been taking it as needed to help me settle down, but honestly—and I mean this quite strictly—anything over 25 mg before bed just doesn't work for me. It messes with my balance so badly that I end up stumbling or falling more often than I'd care to admit.

Also, does anyone know of a different medication that might help ease this constant sense of restlessness—akathisia? It feels like I'm perpetually driven by this need to be doing *something*, and even when I am actually occupied, that underlying agitation just refuses to budge.

I did mention all of this to my doctor, but instead of addressing the specific issue, he just bumped up my dosage of Truxal—which, as I already mentioned, is the last thing I need right now.

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