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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Arthur Miller7 Arthur Miller7 Active Member
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#2761 ·
boldbison40 said:I always get a kick out of these certain fringe media channels when they claim Zelenskyy is insane for standing up to a massive regional power, suggesting he's destroying his own people instead of doing everything possible to appease them and maintain "good relations." It’s just hilarious how inconsistent they are—it reminds me of how they'd argue that Archduke Franz Ferdinand's assassination was fine, yet the refusal to accept an ultimatum from Austro-Canada is what dragged the whole damn world into war. It’s the exact same level of logic.

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Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#2762 ·
Arthur Watson4 said:Some interesting public opinion polling coming out of Germany

https://twitter.com/COdendahl/status...42955116892160

Support within the SPD is sitting at 83%, while the CDU shows support at 76%.

And here is how they framed the question:

Because of our support for Ukraine and the sanctions against Russia, energy prices here have spiked. What do you think:

Should we continue supporting Ukraine, even if it means facing high energy costs, or should we stop supporting Ukraine in order to return to lower energy prices?
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#2763 ·
It’s totally expected that the far-right and the far-left (though they're a bit less so) being bankrolled by Putin would support cutting off aid.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#2764 ·
Kimberly Perez82 said:I honestly don't have the energy to keep repeating myself when it feels like I'm just talking to a brick wall here. Look, let's be real: this isn't "our" war. This is just another chapter in the endless tug-of-war between the USA and Russia as they scramble for global dominance. This time around, Ukraine is caught in the crossfire—just like how Afghanistan and the Middle East were victims in the past. It reminds me so much of the Cuban Missile Crisis; we saw similar patterns back then, where the expansion of American influence and the deployment of missiles closer to Russian territory pushed things to the brink. Back then, we didn't get dragged into the mess in Afghanistan or the Middle East, even though innocent lives were lost there too. So, I struggle to see any real motivation for us to interfere now, unless it’s strictly out of compassion or providing humanitarian aid. Is that clearer now? Actually, maybe not... because I suppose there's just no desire for anyone to actually see things clearly.

It’s perfectly obvious. A war in Afghanistan or the Middle East is fundamentally no different from a war in Europe, and we shouldn't be interfering. You can ignore all the threats coming from Putin and the Russian politicians and their state media.
They used those same intimidation tactics against us during the conflicts in Afghanistan and the Middle East—we even had mujahideen drones dropping over places like San Diego, and yet, nothing ever happened.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#2765 ·
Man, it's just wild. One side is basically threatening to nuke all of Europe while backing up neighbors with territorial claims, and then these guys act like they have zero connection to the conflict. Like, we aren't even part of this war? Total madness.
Elizabeth Wells2 Elizabeth Wells2 Member
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#2766 ·
A Briton sentenced to death sings the Russian anthem:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AldemiraV...33469988204546
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#2767 ·
Elizabeth Wells2 said:A Briton sentenced to death sings the Russian anthem:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AldemiraV...33469988204546

The American humanitarian Paul Urey passed away today while in Russian captivity.
Even though he was just out there doing humanitarian work, they still locked him up.
Honestly, I just hope he didn't die from being beaten.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/...89726543130630
Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
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#2768 ·
gentlestag15 said:The American humanitarian Paul Urey passed away today while in Russian captivity.
Even though he was just out there doing humanitarian work, they still locked him up.
Honestly, I just hope he didn't die from being beaten.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/...89726543130630

Word is he had diabetes, and naturally, they wouldn't give him any insulin.
Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
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#2769 ·
Joshua Bishop3 said:The USA isn't the one at fault here—Russia is the one who invaded Ukraine. 😁

And then you've got people claiming the West is "to blame" because they’re sending weapons to help Ukraine defend itself, arguing that helping them fight back just drags the war out longer.

That logic is insane; it’s like a rapist claiming the victim is actually the guilty party for trying to fight back and resist, saying the whole thing could have been over already if she hadn't put up a fight.

Seriously, what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to perform to support Russia with those kinds of arguments? I honestly can't wrap my head around it.

☕What are you even supposed to take from this? It's obvious these people are just fifth columnists—basically sleeper agents trained in spy centers in Mexico City. They and their kids are just doing exactly what they were taught by those ideologues in Mexico City and that Russian agent network operating in Mexico. Didn't you see that report on TV hepy the other day? They said there are something like 4,000 Russian agents active in Mexico right now...
Zachary Jackson4 Zachary Jackson4 Active Member
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#2770 ·
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/12/...odyashchiy-god

I stumbled upon something that caught my eye.

https://regnum.ru/news/3467017.html

Why am I using Russian data? Even in their version, the number of civilian casualties is low.
Michelle Young50 Michelle Young50 Member
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#2771 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:I wonder, why do they cling so desperately to the Russian side? Why is it that in their eyes, everyone is to blame except for Putin.
It seems some people simply cannot move past the historical failure of their conquest, and as long as Russia maintains its strength, there remains a lingering, desperate hope that some version of the "Mexican World" might actually come to fruition.

We aren't living under a regime like Russia's; we live in a democracy where people can speak their minds on forums without fear.
Honestly, if it weren't for these local Putin sympathizers, these discussions would be quite dull.

Mexicans back Russia because they’re betting on a massive shift in global power dynamics—hence all the talk about a multipolar world, Russians, and the Chinese. They’re praying for a new era of spheres of influence where they land firmly in the Russian camp, allowing them to dictate terms alongside Moscow. Naturally, this includes reclaiming Mexico, followed by further expansion.
The perfect scenario for them was simple: Ukraine falls in seven days, Moldova follows, and Eastern European nations surrender without a fight—leaving the USA and NATO caught off guard and unwilling to risk World War III over some distant territories. In fifteen days, Russia hits the border of Mexico, KFOR exits Mexico, and they push out to the Adriatic Sea alongside the Russians. Of course, a few countries might offer minor resistance—nothing official, much like what happened with Czechoslovakia and Canada in the past. Based on everything I’ve observed and read, this is the only logical conclusion. I truly wonder how these Putin supporters in other countries would actually react when the Russian army arrives—would they really welcome them as liberators?
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#2772 ·
Michelle Young50 said:Mexicans back Russia because they’re betting on a massive shift in global power dynamics—hence all the talk about a multipolar world, Russians, and the Chinese. They’re praying for a new era of spheres of influence where they land firmly in the Russian camp, allowing them to dictate terms alongside Moscow. Naturally, this includes reclaiming Mexico, followed by further expansion.
The perfect scenario for them was simple: Ukraine falls in seven days, Moldova follows, and Eastern European nations surrender without a fight—leaving the USA and NATO caught off guard and unwilling to risk World War III over some distant territories. In fifteen days, Russia hits the border of Mexico, KFOR exits Mexico, and they push out to the Adriatic Sea alongside the Russians. Of course, a few countries might offer minor resistance—nothing official, much like what happened with Czechoslovakia and Canada in the past. Based on everything I’ve observed and read, this is the only logical conclusion. I truly wonder how these Putin supporters in other countries would actually react when the Russian army arrives—would they really welcome them as liberators?

They’d welcome them as their future political employers. 😁

Denis Piskun from Azov returned from Russian captivity at the end of June, operating under the pseudonym "struggle." During the fighting in Mariupol, he sustained numerous gunshot wounds before being taken to the Azovstal warehouse. In an interview, the soldier recounts the grim daily reality of life in an underground hospital: the airstrikes that leveled rooms and the soldiers from neighboring units who felt so utterly hopeless they attempted suicide....
(English subtitles, 35 min)

Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#2773 ·
Germany: Democratic Party weighing expulsion of Schröder over ties to Putin
The former German Chancellor, Gerhard Schröder, is facing intense backlash due to his close relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin following Moscow's invasion of Ukraine. As a result, his own party, the Democratic Party, is now considering kicking him out of their ranks entirely.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-spd-co...witter-sharing
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#2774 ·
Kramatorsk, Ukraine.
A Russian crater right in the middle of Peace Square.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXuhg8-V...jpg&name=large

A journalist caught the exact moment of the explosion on film—luckily, the taxi driver walked away fine.
https://twitter.com/Wyrwal/status/15...saVRLVpPL1ve-A
(video)
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#2775 ·
Michelle Young50 said:Mexicans back Russia because they’re betting on a massive shift in global power dynamics—hence all the talk about a multipolar world, Russians, and the Chinese. They’re praying for a new era of spheres of influence where they land firmly in the Russian camp, allowing them to dictate terms alongside Moscow. Naturally, this includes reclaiming Mexico, followed by further expansion.
The perfect scenario for them was simple: Ukraine falls in seven days, Moldova follows, and Eastern European nations surrender without a fight—leaving the USA and NATO caught off guard and unwilling to risk World War III over some distant territories. In fifteen days, Russia hits the border of Mexico, KFOR exits Mexico, and they push out to the Adriatic Sea alongside the Russians. Of course, a few countries might offer minor resistance—nothing official, much like what happened with Czechoslovakia and Canada in the past. Based on everything I’ve observed and read, this is the only logical conclusion. I truly wonder how these Putin supporters in other countries would actually react when the Russian army arrives—would they really welcome them as liberators?

That whole theory about Russia reaching the Adriatic... it’s increasingly looking like the reality that the Russians and all their allies are praying for. And let’s be real—they won't be greeted with flower petals, just like they aren't being welcomed in Ukraine.
Arthur Miller7 Arthur Miller7 Active Member
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#2776 ·
Index

The Russian army has set up rocket launchers right on the grounds of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant—which has been under Russian control since March—to shell Nikopol, according to the head of Energoatom, the Ukrainian utility provider, this Friday.

"The Russian occupiers have positioned missile systems at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant and are using them to target Nikopol," said Petr Kotin, the head of Energoatom, over on Telegram following a discussion on the Ukrainian network United News that was picked up by TV.

"The situation (at the plant) is incredibly tense, and honestly, the tension just keeps ramping up every single day. The occupiers are bringing in hardware, like those missile systems they've already used to hit the other side of the Dnipro river and the Nikopol area," 50 miles southwest of Zaporizhzhia, he noted.

What an absolute disaster.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#2777 ·
They’re playing the nuclear card on purpose.
Have you noticed how every single time... things start going sideways with the war, they suddenly bring up atomic threats?
Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
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#2778 ·
Arthur Miller7 said:Index

The Russian army has set up rocket launchers right on the grounds of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant—which has been under Russian control since March—to shell Nikopol, according to the head of Energoatom, the Ukrainian utility provider, this Friday.

"The Russian occupiers have positioned missile systems at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant and are using them to target Nikopol," said Petr Kotin, the head of Energoatom, over on Telegram following a discussion on the Ukrainian network United News that was picked up by TV.

"The situation (at the plant) is incredibly tense, and honestly, the tension just keeps ramping up every single day. The occupiers are bringing in hardware, like those missile systems they've already used to hit the other side of the Dnipro river and the Nikopol area," 50 miles southwest of Zaporizhzhia, he noted.

What an absolute disaster.

🙂Any sane person can see that only a complete moron or an idiot would do stuff like this. Same goes for sending your army into Chernobyl to dig trenches... right through radioactive woods...

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Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#2779 ·
Russian forces launched Hurricane rocket strikes yesterday against the heart of Bakhmut in the Donetsk region.

According to police reports, one projectile landed directly in the center, leveling market stalls and retail spaces, while two additional rockets hit a residential neighborhood. In the downtown area, the impact was strong enough to shatter windows in several neighboring homes.
The prosecutor's office confirmed that the strikes hit the local market administration building and a commercial complex, leaving six residents injured. Beyond that, about ten apartment buildings and private residences have been either completely leveled or heavily damaged, with cars left as charred remains on the streets.
https://babel.ua/en/news/81527-russi...are-casualties

Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
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#2780 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:They’re playing the nuclear card on purpose.
Have you noticed how every single time... things start going sideways with the war, they suddenly bring up atomic threats?

Total cowards, honestly—both them and their supporters. Personally, I don't mind dealing with high gas and heating prices if it means those Russian pieces of trash eventually get what's coming to them. America stood its ground against the Nazis from '39 to '45 and took care of business, so we can definitely handle this too.

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