swiftjackal11 said:Spies embedded right in the Ukrainian ranks. If they’re Russians, it's business as usual, but when it's Ukrainians? That's just hard to wrap your head around.
I usually break them down into two camps:
1. The true believers. They genuinely think Russia should come first and that everything Russia does is top-tier. It isn't about money for them; they actually believe the hype.
2. The opportunists. They’re just looking for a payday or a cushy seat at the table once the new order is established.
It’s not black and white, though—you’ve got Russians who support Ukraine (fewer in number, but they exist), just like you have Ukrainians who lean toward Russia.
A huge chunk of them are older folks who miss the old days of the Soviet Union and wish those times would roll back in. Plus, if someone spends all day watching Russian news outlets, what else are they going to believe besides what they hear there?
That first group—the believers—was behind the separatist movement in Donbas, especially after the way the media spun everything happening during the Maidan protests. That’s why people across Donbas started marching under the Russian flag, claiming they were fighting fascism in Ukraine—even though most of them probably didn't even know what fascism or Nazism actually meant. Those guys fought for Viktor Yanukovych. Meanwhile, the second group—the opportunists—were out there demanding "fair elections" for Donbas... which is hilarious, because they weren't exactly calling for fair elections for Yanukovych back then. But hey, when your head is stuck in a fog, critical thinking goes out the window.
That’s how the chaos started: Maidan vs. anti-Maidan, attacks on protesters, branding anyone with an American-style democratic streak as a fascist, discrediting anyone flying the Ukrainian flag, raids on police stations, and tanks rolling in from Russia along with various paramilitary groups. And just like that, you've got a conflict.