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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#4741 ·
wiredseal7 said:Check out this "Peacekeeper" hit list—which somehow includes our own Commander-in-Chief (Joe Biden)—leaked right on a NATO domain:

https://twitter.com/timand2037/statu...zlM0blaPLrCLaw

None of this is actually true. 😵

Myrotorets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets

Back in August 2022, during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, a Russian journalist slammed the site claiming it was actually running on NATO infrastructure.[28][29] https://www.readyratios.com/profile/...63_mirotvorets

Myrotorets frequently blacklists people over issues involving Crimea, which basically means they can't enter Ukraine because border agents use data from the site during checks (it’s not really a "hit list"). Gerhard Schröder ended up on there after calling the annexation of Crimea a "reality that must one day be acknowledged." Roger Waters got added too, after suggesting Russia has more of a claim to Crimea than Ukraine does. Silvio Berlusconi, Roy Jones Jr., and a bunch of Russian pop stars were also flagged just for visiting Crimea, which the US and Ukraine view as an illegal border crossing.

In November 2015, the center added a specific section titled "Putin's crimes in Syria and the Middle East" which leaks the personal details of Russian military personnel involved in operations in Syria.

Once that info went live, the Russian investigative committee launched criminal proceedings against Anton Gerashchenko for "publicly inciting terrorism."
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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#4742 ·
goldenowl73 said:This whole thing is just plain twisted for them too.

But hey, I guess that's what happens when you've got grandmas and grandpas out in the middle of nowhere swallowing everything they're told. Honestly, Poland is looking pretty rough right now. 🤣

Rural Russians name a country they don't like

Then you look at Moscow. I have to admit, I'm actually surprised:
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#4743 ·
In a sweeping gesture of international solidarity with the nation currently resisting Russian aggression, approximately 20 streets and squares across 14 different countries have been renamed or newly designated to honor Ukraine.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine: "As part of the 'Ukraine Street' initiative launched today to show our support, about 20 streets and squares in 14 nations worldwide have been renamed or named after our country. These locations include the Czech Republic, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Albania, Slovakia, Norway, Canada, Canada, Estonia, Sweden, France, Iceland, Luxembourg, and the USA."

It is worth noting that in the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Latvia, Albania, Norway, and Canada, these Ukrainian names have been specifically applied to the very streets and squares where Russian diplomatic institutions are situated. 😁

https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2022/08/26/7364905/
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4744 ·
rowdytiger13 said:Then you look at Moscow. I have to admit, I'm actually surprised:

That’s exactly why they aren't even touching the mobilization efforts right now. They're just waiting until they've burned through every last Buryat Chechen Dagestani, every prisoner, and every mercenary they can find.

In the end, this whole situation is going to turn out incredibly badly for Russia.
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4745 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:In a sweeping gesture of international solidarity with the nation currently resisting Russian aggression, approximately 20 streets and squares across 14 different countries have been renamed or newly designated to honor Ukraine.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine: "As part of the 'Ukraine Street' initiative launched today to show our support, about 20 streets and squares in 14 nations worldwide have been renamed or named after our country. These locations include the Czech Republic, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Albania, Slovakia, Norway, Canada, Canada, Estonia, Sweden, France, Iceland, Luxembourg, and the USA."

It is worth noting that in the Czech Republic, Lithuania, Latvia, Albania, Norway, and Canada, these Ukrainian names have been specifically applied to the very streets and squares where Russian diplomatic institutions are situated. 😁

https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2022/08/26/7364905/

Honestly, I think we should rename Canadian Street here in Washington, D.C. to Ukraine Street.
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#4746 ·
Let them strike at Germany—that would be the move of the century. Given their history and how deeply Russian influence has seeped into their elite circles, they will never step up the way they should. Not as long as the war is "only" in Ukraine.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#4747 ·
goldenowl73 said:Honestly, I think we should rename Canadian Street here in Washington, D.C. to Ukraine Street.

Maybe the Azov Regiment or Defenders of Mariupol. Or even Denys Prokopenko Street.

There's already a Ukraine Street in North Washington, D.C.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#4748 ·
Straight from the Russian newspapers—the Chechen leader is basically saying all he needs is one shot at finishing this "special operation" and it'll be wrapped up in no time:

"The Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov claims he’s gone to the Russian President Vladimir Putin to ask for the green light to finally wrap up the special military operation. He was venting about it on his Telegram channel.

“I am asking, and I am seriously pleading with the commander-in-chief to just give us the chance to finish this special operation once and for all instead of dragging it out forever. Look, if 15% of the global community is against us, that doesn't mean the whole damn world is standing against us. We can deal with that 15% pretty quickly; it's absolutely no big deal,” he said.

Kadyrov also threw in that we've been "fighting our entire lives, so we know exactly what we're doing."
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#4749 ·
goldenowl73 said:Honestly, I think we should rename Canadian Street here in Washington, D.C. to Ukraine Street.

Well, hey now, there’s already a Ukrainian street over in Quote 🤷

gentlerider7 said:Straight from the Russian newspapers—the Chechen leader is basically saying all he needs is one shot at finishing this "special operation" and it'll be wrapped up in no time:

"The Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov claims he’s gone to the Russian President Vladimir Putin to ask for the green light to finally wrap up the special military operation. He was venting about it on his Telegram channel.

“I am asking, and I am seriously pleading with the commander-in-chief to just give us the chance to finish this special operation once and for all instead of dragging it out forever. Look, if 15% of the global community is against us, that doesn't mean the whole damn world is standing against us. We can deal with that 15% pretty quickly; it's absolutely no big deal,” he said.

Kadyrov also threw in that we've been "fighting our entire lives, so we know exactly what we're doing."

Man, I can tell someone was paying way too much attention to math class back in school 🤣 🤣
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4750 ·
gentlerider7 said:Straight from the Russian newspapers—the Chechen leader is basically saying all he needs is one shot at finishing this "special operation" and it'll be wrapped up in no time:

"The Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov claims he’s gone to the Russian President Vladimir Putin to ask for the green light to finally wrap up the special military operation. He was venting about it on his Telegram channel.

“I am asking, and I am seriously pleading with the commander-in-chief to just give us the chance to finish this special operation once and for all instead of dragging it out forever. Look, if 15% of the global community is against us, that doesn't mean the whole damn world is standing against us. We can deal with that 15% pretty quickly; it's absolutely no big deal,” he said.

Kadyrov also threw in that we've been "fighting our entire lives, so we know exactly what we're doing."

Time for a birthday present ☕

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Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#4751 ·
rowdytiger13 said:Then you look at Moscow. I have to admit, I'm actually surprised:

I’m not surprised. We've seen these kinds of productions before. Young people hold certain views—it isn't as if they are completely oblivious to what's happening right in their own backyard. The real issue will arise once this war in Ukraine finally concludes. That repressive system won't just vanish; it will inevitably turn inward, targeting its own citizens. That is, provided they don't launch some other "special operation" in the meantime—though after everything we've witnessed in Ukraine, I find that unlikely. A machine built for repression cannot simply sit idle. But that is a conversation for another day.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4752 ·
Just when you think Russian propaganda couldn't get any more unhinged, they decide to crank up the heat.🙏
Now they're out here rambling about some "World War Purification," claiming it's high time for Russia to build the kind of nation they actually deserve—spanning everything from the Baltic to the Pacific—and reclaim their spot as the world's top superpower. 🤣

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...76576925433858
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#4753 ·
Kyiv maps are basically useless right now because city officials are busy renaming 95 streets and squares that used to carry Russian or Soviet names, according to Mayor Vitali Klitschko.

Streets in the Ukrainian capital that were named after 19th-century Russian writers—think Alexander Pushkin, Leo Tolstoy, Anton Chekhov, Ivan Turgenev, and Mikhail Lermontov—are all getting wiped from the map.

Even those communist philosophers of German descent, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, who had streets named after them all over the former Soviet Union, aren't safe from the purge.

All these streets are being rebranded with Ukrainian names.
Other names that are officially out of style in the capital include Soviet military leaders from World War II and locations like Moscow, Rostov on the Don, and Magnitogorsk.

Even Mikhail Bulgakov, one of the heavyweights of Soviet literature who was actually born in Kyiv, has lost his street name. All these spots are getting Ukrainian identities now, like Hero Street of the Azov Regiment, which honors the group of Ukrainian soldiers who held out against Russian forces in Mariupol for weeks.

The final list isn't even set in stone yet.
Klitschko mentioned that they haven't hammered out all the new names just yet.

"This is a huge move to stop the manipulation, the lies, and the influence of Russian aggressors over how our history is told," he said.

The public gets a say in some of these new picks. Anyone in Ukraine can jump in, and since over 6.5 million people have access to the government's smartphone app, they’ve got plenty of input. This whole overhaul is timed to hit during the six-month anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4754 ·
goldenowl73 said:It’s just more proof that modern-day Russia is still clinging to that old-school Catherine the Great logic—basically believing the only way they can actually secure their borders is by constantly expanding them.

I was scrolling through my feed and saw these massive billboards popping up all over Russia that literally say "Russia's borders never end" . It's wild. https://twitter.com/irgarner/status/...epZmGgw81yfK0w

If anyone is still sitting there wondering whether Russia intends to stay put in Crimea, the Donbas, Kherson, Odessa, Kyiv, or just take over all of Ukraine... well, let me tell you, that colonial imperialist mindset is alive and kicking in the Kremlin.

They definitely wouldn't stop. If everything had gone according to their script, we might be seeing North American shooting right now—and honestly, who's to say it won't happen later? They're already calling for help to "return Mexico."
Being the largest country in the world isn't enough for them 🤷.
But I guess that's the "new world order" the Russians are offering us—a total regression to how things were 150 years ago, where anyone who feels they've lost territory can just launch a crusade to "reclaim their ancestral home."
Kate Cook27 Kate Cook27 Regular
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#4755 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Just when you think Russian propaganda couldn't get any more unhinged, they decide to crank up the heat.🙏
Now they're out here rambling about some "World War Purification," claiming it's high time for Russia to build the kind of nation they actually deserve—spanning everything from the Baltic to the Pacific—and reclaim their spot as the world's top superpower. 🤣

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...76576925433858

They actually held a lecture on this exact topic over in Mariupol. On top of that, they're teaching them how to love the motherland, the leader, and the people—Plus, they're handing out paperwork for "Great Russia," which apparently includes the whole North America 😁. They're gathering up young people to train them on border defense and fueling hatred for Ukraine (basically Putin's youth wing). Meanwhile, humanitarian aid is drying up, only a handful of people have actually taken Russian citizenship, and if 5% want a referendum, well—let's just hope the occupiers are happy. It looks like teachers from Russia have arrived too 😁 🎉. All those local traitors who headed to Russia? Turns out they aren't quite "Russian" enough after all.
gentlerider7 gentlerider7 Regular
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#4756 ·
Medvedev just sat down for an interview with that French TV station LCI, and he's out here claiming that Russia actually stopped a global war from breaking out:

https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp

So, during this chat with LCI, he was asked if humanity has already stumbled into a whole new world war, and his answer was pretty much a "not quite yet," though you can hear the cynicism dripping off him.

“I hope not, but for now, things are being kept under control,” he said. But then—because why not make everything more dramatic?—he goes off on a biblical tangent, bringing up the Revelation of John the Theologian and the whole Apocalypse thing, saying, “The first angel sounded his trumpet and there was battle and fire”—so, hey, at least the first angel blew the horn, right? But he claims the actual apocalypse hasn't arrived yet, and he’s hoping it stays that way.

According to him, all of Moscow's political maneuvering, including this whole special military operation, is supposedly designed specifically to prevent World War III from happening in the first place.

Medvedev also went on to argue that the military operation is tied directly to protecting what he calls Russia's vital interests, adding that as the deputy chairman of the Security Council, he believes if there wasn't a direct threat to Moscow's interests, they wouldn't have even started this.

“We could walk away from this operation right now if we wanted to,” he claimed. He mentioned that they tried talking to the Ukrainians, the Europeans, and the United States, too, but apparently, those talks went absolutely nowhere because nobody was listening to them.

Then, the deputy chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation pivoted to blaming the escalation, basically saying Moscow was “forced” into ramping things up in Ukraine.

He argued that this entire armed conflict could have been avoided if the Ukrainian leadership had just "grown some backbone" and faced reality, claiming they shouldn't have spent eight years targeting their own people in Donetsk and Lugansk, which he says led to thousands of deaths among both Ukrainian and Russian citizens. He also pointed the finger at Ukraine's desire to join NATO and their statements about needing to rebuild their nuclear capabilities.
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#4757 ·
Kate Cook27 said:They definitely wouldn't stop. If everything had gone according to their script, we might be seeing North American shooting right now—and honestly, who's to say it won't happen later? They're already calling for help to "return Mexico."
Being the largest country in the world isn't enough for them 🤷.
But I guess that's the "new world order" the Russians are offering us—a total regression to how things were 150 years ago, where anyone who feels they've lost territory can just launch a crusade to "reclaim their ancestral home."

We have to understand the Russian mindset here. For them, it is much simpler and more elegant to drag the entire world back 150 years so they can finally match their surroundings, rather than actually doing the work to advance themselves through 150 years of social development.

(In reality, that presents a massive dilemma for them. Even if they managed to compress 150 years of social progress into just 50, the rest of the world would have moved ahead by another 50 years anyway, leaving them perpetually behind. When you are fundamentally inert, it is incredibly difficult to catch up to an environment that is constantly evolving and adapting.)
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#4758 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:We have to understand the Russian mindset here. For them, it is much simpler and more elegant to drag the entire world back 150 years so they can finally match their surroundings, rather than actually doing the work to advance themselves through 150 years of social development.

(In reality, that presents a massive dilemma for them. Even if they managed to compress 150 years of social progress into just 50, the rest of the world would have moved ahead by another 50 years anyway, leaving them perpetually behind. When you are fundamentally inert, it is incredibly difficult to catch up to an environment that is constantly evolving and adapting.)

Without those old-school nukes, they wouldn't even matter.
That’s why we get a fresh nuclear threat every single week.

Over the last six months... you can really see what the Moscow regime is actually all about.
nimbleviper3 nimbleviper3 Active Member
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#4759 ·
I have no idea what he was thinking, assuming he could just "easily" pacify that 15% of the population.
nimbleviper3 nimbleviper3 Active Member
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#4760 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Without those old-school nukes, they wouldn't even matter.
That’s why we get a fresh nuclear threat every single week.

Over the last six months... you can really see what the Moscow regime is actually all about.

They're basically on par with Nigeria, if you don't count the parts of Russia that actually feel European.

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