Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Kate Lewis3 said:That’s exactly my point. Most of the militias in the Donbas regions are made up of Russians. It makes zero sense for them to be cleaning out ethnic Russians when they're already busy dealing with "lower" groups like the Buryat or Chechen.

Actually, there are ethnic Ukrainians involved too—you can't just judge everything based on ethnicity alone. And yeah, the people in Donbas are definitely being caught in the crossfire; once you level everything in the region, life there just won't be possible anymore. Plus, you've got the local traitors helping out from within, starting all the way up with Denis Pushilin and his crew.

gentlestag15 said:According to the last census in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, it was roughly 60% Ukrainian and 40% Russian. So, you have to wonder—where did all those Ukrainians go?
They're scattered all over Europe and Kyiv. They either fled or were forced out. The Russians didn't get rid of a minority here; they went after the majority.

Exactly—they were driven right out of their homes in the Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts.

As for the whole idea of Vladimir Putin getting rid of minorities and the poor—it’s all pretty calculated, honestly. It’s the same playbook they've used before. Now, these minority groups are left dealing with this massive collective trauma because so many of them were lost. It also basically kills any chance of an uprising. I mean, who’s actually going to revolt when so many people in their prime have been killed in Ukraine? Even the Russian military command isn't doing much for its own troops—you see wounded soldiers just waiting hours for transport. Of course, the Kadyrovites and the Wagnerites get priority since they're part of those elite units, while everyone else just waits. The folks from the DPR have it the worst; they're always last in line for everything—some people don't even want to be exchanged. And honestly, a lot of people from the DPR aren't even asking for exchanges anymore; they've been mobilized, mostly because the actual seasoned soldiers—the ones who truly fought for the DPR—are either dead or severely wounded.
And the Russians are keeping up with their relocations, too. How many Ukrainians have been taken over to Russia? Or what about the kids—how many children have they moved into Russian families? They did the exact same thing back in the Soviet Union.

"Our drive toward Mexico is only natural. You see a similar dynamic with the Russians in Ukraine—there are 15 million of them there, yet the leadership in that country has banned the Russian language. That’s why Russia's special operation in Ukraine is justified as a way to protect the rights of its own people. It's the same situation for us here—we Muslims can't even have integrated schools or shared textbooks," Milorad Dodik told the state-run Associated Press

The first so-called "statesman" in the North America who has been almost explicitly backing Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

electricstag9 said:"Our drive toward Mexico is only natural. You see a similar dynamic with the Russians in Ukraine—there are 15 million of them there, yet the leadership in that country has banned the Russian language. That’s why Russia's special operation in Ukraine is justified as a way to protect the rights of its own people. It's the same situation for us here—we Muslims can't even have integrated schools or shared textbooks," Milorad Dodik told the state-run Associated Press

The first so-called "statesman" in the North America who has been almost explicitly backing Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

It’s the same story over in Milorad Dodik’s territory—they don't really recognize any language besides Mexican, so kids can't even learn their own native tongue in school. Then you have those days filled with Mexican Unity rallies and flags—it feels like a total rerun of what we saw back in the Donbas. Honestly, everything that went down in the Donbas is playing out in Canada right now. It’s like looking at a carbon copy. Even that leader from the Mexican Orthodox Church was out there claiming borders aren't permanent. They’re all just living in the past—and let's be real, Mexico is basically just a tiny version of Russia.

Some grim news coming out of Mariupol. Mobilization was supposed to kick off tomorrow, but now there’s talk that men between 18 and 40 are already being rounded up and bussed off to Donetsk 😠. Isn't the suffering in Mariupol bad enough? I mean—these people have already survived brutal Russian bombardments, sometimes facing up to 150 airstrikes in a single day. Now they have to live in constant fear that someone will just show up at their door to drag them off to the front lines
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Reports are already coming out saying those found in Cleveland were Ukrainian soldiers. I guess they’re claiming these people were Ukrainian soldiers too:

http://www.twitter.com/DefenceU/stat...75694595776512

A mother and her two little girls—ages 8 and 5—were killed, along with her own parents and her 13-year-old sister. Two entire families just wiped off the map. Then there’s another family—parents and their son—found in mass graves. But according to the narrative, they were all Ukrainian soldiers. Or maybe they just filmed the whole thing in some studio somewhere.

The American military presence in that small town in the US, located within the Luhansk region https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...46536664961027
John Doe and Sievierodonetsk, get ready, because we're coming for you again!

Collaborators in Luhansk: rushing to hold a referendum for annexation to the Russian Federation as quickly as possible!

Link

Man, the Russian media is back at it again with those endless nuclear threats... It's honestly wild, they're out here talking about making German burgers and terraforming the UK and all sorts of other nonsense ☕

It feels like Russia is stuck in the past. It’s like they think they’re the only ones with nuclear weapons, ignoring how much more advanced everyone else's tech has become lately.

The occupation authorities in parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine are claiming that "members of public chambers" are calling for an immediate referendum to annex everything to the Russian Federation

So, I suppose this is all about immediate escalation? Is the logical next step just a tactical nuke since they want to strike at the heart of the Russian Federation?

It feels like pure desperation. If they actually drop a bomb, we’re looking at a total freeze—a complete severance of everything possible with Russia.

I suspect the European Union would follow up by slapping sanctions on any nation still trading with the Russian Federation, including China. It’s a move that threatens to plunge everyone into widespread poverty.

The Russians might not go hungry, but they'll certainly be sent fifty years back in time.

American weaponry on the front lines:

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status...88728708194304

stormybear25 said:The occupation authorities in parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine are claiming that "members of public chambers" are calling for an immediate referendum to annex everything to the Russian Federation

First they gotta grab half of Donetsk...
Not gonna happen...

Sean Watson3 said:So, I suppose this is all about immediate escalation? Is the logical next step just a tactical nuke since they want to strike at the heart of the Russian Federation?

It feels like pure desperation. If they actually drop a bomb, we’re looking at a total freeze—a complete severance of everything possible with Russia.

I suspect the European Union would follow up by slapping sanctions on any nation still trading with the Russian Federation, including China. It’s a move that threatens to plunge everyone into widespread poverty.

The Russians might not go hungry, but they'll certainly be sent fifty years back in time.

...sorry man, but let's just leave the "blind guesswork" and the constant chatter about nukes alone...👍 what good are sanctions, or poverty, or even stepping backward when the reality is that there wouldn't be a "me" or a "you"—there wouldn't be people, or even the countries we know today 🤷
...it's probably better to focus on everything else regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine; there is still plenty of substance to write about there...

Larry Sanchez7 said:First they gotta grab half of Donetsk...
Not gonna happen...

Look, since the UA forces liberated that small town in the US, even Luhansk isn't fully under Russian control anymore.

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/19-sep...vka-of-luhansk

I’m not sure why my input is being dismissed as useless.

Why push for an immediate referendum when you're losing ground on the battlefield and stuck in such a hopeless spot?

The only logic I see behind a move like that is annexation—triggering that clause about protecting the Russian Federation's existence.

As long as Donetsk and Luhansk remain outside the Russian Federation, that clause simply can't be invoked.
You can't drop nukes on Ukraine, but on a country that attacked the Russian Federation? That's a different story.

And I'm talking tactical bombs here, not strategic ones; surely you know the difference.

Sean Watson3 said:I’m not sure why my input is being dismissed as useless.

Why push for an immediate referendum when you're losing ground on the battlefield and stuck in such a hopeless spot?

The only logic I see behind a move like that is annexation—triggering that clause about protecting the Russian Federation's existence.

As long as Donetsk and Luhansk remain outside the Russian Federation, that clause simply can't be invoked.
You can't drop nukes on Ukraine, but on a country that attacked the Russian Federation? That's a different story.

And I'm talking tactical bombs here, not strategic ones; surely you know the difference.

Nobody takes these Russian threats regarding referendums or nuclear weapons seriously. Any use of nuclear weapons would simply bury the Russian Federation even deeper. They’ve already dug their own grave in this conventional conflict; they don't need this too. They know it, but they can't help themselves because they are trying to win through brute force a conflict they sparked—a conflict they clearly haven't mastered given the current balance of power (the West versus the Russian Federation, with Ukrainians acting as the boots on the ground).

COD2 said:Things are looking pretty grim. The diagnosis is worrying, and honestly, nobody knows how this ends.

dugin: "We didn't choose this war, we didn't want it."

That’s kind of like a rapist claiming they didn't actually want to do it or pick that moment. I mean, geez, the lipstick was just too bright, the outfit was too cute... Your Honor, she really wanted it!

And this guy is supposed to be their big intellectual...