Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Nicholas Perez7 said:That's exactly the point. Nobody in Europe, including Ukraine, is looking to occupy Russia. They just want to defend their own soil, and older generations can step up for that too. I was already 35 when I joined the service during the Gulf War, so I definitely wasn't exactly "young" back then.

You were defending the US at the absolute peak of your life—even during your physical prime—and that defense was largely carried by the generation born around the 1960s and 70s. Back then, those generations had enough men that even if some fell in combat, there was still a massive foundation left to carry on the population and keep things moving forward.

I’m a post-war baby, and in my generation, the numbers were also pretty high. In theory, my generation could actually step up and fight a war again, but we run into a major problem: nowadays, only a small fraction of my peers are actually having kids. Back in the day, guys your age would have easily had one, two, or three children minimum.

Then you look at my brother's generation—they're already seeing about 50% fewer births than mine (the 2000s crowd). If they were the ones called to go to war, you'd basically be looking at the total disappearance of that demographic, leaving behind an incredibly tiny number of people to sustain the future.

darkhawk30 said:That is honestly a disgusting comment.

Nasty or not, it's just one of the actual consequences of war.

darkhawk30 said:I assume most Russians realize this, but the little guy doesn't care how many lives get sacrificed for his ego and delusions of grandeur.

"Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced that Russia will immediately begin mobilizing 300,000 reservists. 'Our human reserves are massive, totaling 25 million people, and this mobilization represents only one percent of our potential,' the Russian Defense Minister stated."

He could "spend" 25 million people without even breaking a sweat, and they'd still have 120 million left. 😲

American Wars veterans are definitely not some overlooked military asset.

wiredseal7 said:He mentioned that mobilization is leaning more toward war veterans. Still, he claims they aren't pivoting to that "meat grinder" tactic—which is already the standard playbook for Ukraine—just yet.

But look, it shows they’re running low on people. They want to wipe out that Ukrainian advantage, and if they don't mobilize, they won't.

I doubt they'll pull the nuclear trigger easily—but once they annex parts of Ukraine, if an offensive like the one in Kharkiv pushes them toward somewhere like Kherson and they run out of conventional moves? Then anything goes.
The bigger threat to Ukraine and the West is really just the pressure to stop fighting and let the whole mess freeze.

Now we're just waiting for equally aggressive, bellicose rhetoric to come out of Kyiv and Washington, D.C.—it’s pretty obvious nobody's looking to blink here.

Yeah, right. Like the Ukrainians are the ones using human wave tactics instead of the Russians? No way.🤦

That's why they're charging around Bakhmut straight into heavily fortified Ukrainian positions like total idiots. This "partial" mobilization basically just means they’ve burned through all their manpower in the occupied territories and with Wagner, because the regular Russian army was tapped out a long time ago.

How do you even think that works? Charging head-on into fortified positions like a moron... these geniuses don't seem to realize that the old "you don't have as many bullets as we have people" line doesn't fly anymore. The West HAS enough bullets to wipe them all out in one big pile.

Jessica Peterson2 said:At my workplace, every single one of Putin's supporters suddenly decided to sprint toward HR... all just to verify their "Software Engineer" status because Putko promised that specific category wouldn't be mobilized. They haven't quite given me an answer as to why they're so desperate to avoid being sent to the Donbas 🤷

And you're telling me they actually believe that? Seriously... what a joke.

So, what happens when suddenly 90% of the male population decides they're all "software engineers"? Do they honestly think that’s going to be their golden ticket to getting out of the draft? 🤔

bluemason3 said:Nasty or not, it's just one of the actual consequences of war.

This didn't just start yesterday, and it isn't strictly a consequence of the war—though the conflict certainly exacerbates it. In my view, this is simply an inevitable byproduct of the inhumane regime that once ruled the USSR and continues to rule Russia today. Give people decent living conditions and prosperity at home, and they won't feel the need to flee. People simply do what they can to survive with whatever tools they have at their disposal. The same applies to women; there is no reason to blame them if they simply want to live a somewhat normal life.

hollowdriver13 said:Yeah, right. Like the Ukrainians are the ones using human wave tactics instead of the Russians? No way.🤦

That's why they're charging around Bakhmut straight into heavily fortified Ukrainian positions like total idiots. This "partial" mobilization basically just means they’ve burned through all their manpower in the occupied territories and with Wagner, because the regular Russian army was tapped out a long time ago.

How do you even think that works? Charging head-on into fortified positions like a moron... these geniuses don't seem to realize that the old "you don't have as many bullets as we have people" line doesn't fly anymore. The West HAS enough bullets to wipe them all out in one big pile.

Well, someone has to step up while the West is busy making nuclear threats 😳 🤷 😬

Sean Watson3 said:Who cares if it’s a bluff?

There really isn't any other way to look at it. First it was Crimea, and then he claimed he had no interest in anything else—yet here we are, seeing that he clearly does. It seems there's no end to these dictators hungry for someone else's territory.

Precisely. Putin intended to seize all the territory he desired from Ukraine—specifically Donbas and the south—while reducing the rest to a vassal state similar to Belarus.
His plan failed, so now he is merely calculating how to exit this situation without it looking like a defeat.

Had he succeeded in his initial ambitions, he would be targeting new victims within a few years.
He only respects raw power; therefore, the only way to resolve this is to demonstrate that same force. We must continue arming Ukraine.

Looks like another big shot just had a meltdown
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status...27509668876289

It looks like images of mobilization orders have started surfacing online.

rowdyraven112 said:Meanwhile, America and the EU are acting like everything is sunshine and rainbows. Do you guys actually use your brains when you post, or are you just copying homework from pro-Ukrainian news sites? ☕

Whataboooot, whata Whataboooot......

Zachary Booth36 said:Precisely. Putin intended to seize all the territory he desired from Ukraine—specifically Donbas and the south—while reducing the rest to a vassal state similar to Belarus.
His plan failed, so now he is merely calculating how to exit this situation without it looking like a defeat.

Had he succeeded in his initial ambitions, he would be targeting new victims within a few years.
He only respects raw power; therefore, the only way to resolve this is to demonstrate that same force. We must continue arming Ukraine.

🙂👍That is 100% spot on, and honestly, you could say the exact same thing about the situation in Mexico.

Jessica Peterson2 said:It looks like images of mobilization orders have started surfacing online.

It is honestly going to end up just like it did in Mexico, where everyone is shouting about joining the army while nobody actually shows up because they are too busy running the other way.☕

darkrider55 said:So, if they actually have that many reservists on standby, why on earth are they pulling lifers out of prison?

I’d argue the average convict is more of a tough guy than your typical reservist. That makes them prime candidates for deployment to Ukraine, especially when you need cannon fodder... Plus, it saves the government a fortune on prison budgets.

Zachary Booth36 said:Precisely. Putin intended to seize all the territory he desired from Ukraine—specifically Donbas and the south—while reducing the rest to a vassal state similar to Belarus.
His plan failed, so now he is merely calculating how to exit this situation without it looking like a defeat.

Had he succeeded in his initial ambitions, he would be targeting new victims within a few years.
He only respects raw power; therefore, the only way to resolve this is to demonstrate that same force. We must continue arming Ukraine.

Well, he’s already hinted at eyeing the Baltic states before.

Henry Sullivan4 said:It is honestly going to end up just like it did in Mexico, where everyone is shouting about joining the army while nobody actually shows up because they are too busy running the other way.☕

If they actually pull 300k people over there to fight for Russia, I guess it might be a decent opening to run some kind of special operation to liberate Jersey City.

frozencobra50 said:I’d argue the average convict is more of a tough guy than your typical reservist. That makes them prime candidates for deployment to Ukraine, especially when you need cannon fodder... Plus, it saves the government a fortune on prison budgets.

I remember seeing an article somewhere saying even the inmates aren't really stepping up to join those Wagner units.

Looks like word got out in the cellblocks that coming back from Ukraine usually means coming home in a casket.

Man, those flight prices are just hitting the stratosphere lately—if you can even find anything available at this point.



They’re asking $17k for a one-way ticket from Moscow to Dubai.

Just how much hardware does Russia actually have left in their inventory? They can't just send everything over to Ukraine and leave a massive, undefended gap stretching all the way from the Caucasus to Vladivostok.
And let's be honest, they're probably running low on Western components too. What are they going to fight with once those supplies dry up? Are they going to rely on tech from the 70s or 80s, or will they just start depending entirely on Iran to keep them going?🙂

fadedjackal8 said:I remember seeing an article somewhere saying even the inmates aren't really stepping up to join those Wagner units.

Looks like word got out in the cellblocks that coming back from Ukraine usually means coming home in a casket.

Honestly, the only ones signing up will probably be the guys facing twenty years in a federal penitentiary.
Those guys really have nothing left to lose, and hey, they can theoretically just desert the moment things get hairy. Ostatk might actually be happy he’s stuck in a cell right now.