Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Karen Torres43 said:10 million 😁

Just try calculating how many tons of bread they’d need to feed that many "soldiers" on a daily basis 😁

They won't even have gear. Back in the spring, they were avoiding stepping on the fields—now, let’s see if these guys actually make use of them 😁.

Samuel Rodriguez52 said:I was watching the news on Russian TV today and they showed Patriarch Cyril giving what I guess you could call a "mobilization sermon," basically claiming that "those Ukrainians fighting against Russia are devils that need to be wiped out." It’s honestly just wild to me how much rhetoric someone is allowed to get away with when they're presenting themselves as God's messenger.

I'm actually pretty shocked by that statement 🙄.

It’s just one of those old-school, repetitive cycles, isn't it? You see them heading off to war, two of them getting dragged along, while three others are busy dealing the blows 😬

Karen Torres43 said:10 million 😁

Just try calculating how many tons of bread they’d need to feed that many "soldiers" on a daily basis 😁

I guess I’m mostly just speaking theoretically here, but if we really want to nitpick the situation, you have to wonder how much it actually makes sense for Russia to keep dumping high-end hardware into a conflict involving 300,000 people who aren't exactly elite troops. I mean, does Russia even have enough decent winter gear ready for the reservists they'll be sending out as the months get colder? There are just so many logistical hurdles facing them, and honestly, it might sound a bit more convincing if they had just been upfront about mobilizing a million people instead of trying to spin the numbers.

At this point, I suppose we’re already down to the real question: which technique are we actually talking about?

Samuel Rodriguez52 said:I guess I’m mostly just speaking theoretically here, but if we really want to nitpick the situation, you have to wonder how much it actually makes sense for Russia to keep dumping high-end hardware into a conflict involving 300,000 people who aren't exactly elite troops. I mean, does Russia even have enough decent winter gear ready for the reservists they'll be sending out as the months get colder? There are just so many logistical hurdles facing them, and honestly, it might sound a bit more convincing if they had just been upfront about mobilizing a million people instead of trying to spin the numbers.

Does any of that even matter though? Putin basically admitted they haven't lost anything yet, so it feels like human life doesn't count for much. Maybe those 300k are just there *exclusively* to freeze or to soak up bullets—ideally getting killed rather than wounded, so they aren't a long-term drain on society.

Melissa Rivera5 said:Does any of that even matter though? Putin basically admitted they haven't lost anything yet, so it feels like human life doesn't count for much. Maybe those 300k are just there *exclusively* to freeze or to soak up bullets—ideally getting killed rather than wounded, so they aren't a long-term drain on society.

It's kind of like how Shoigu claimed "only" about 6,000 US Army soldiers had died.

Karen Torres43 said:10 million 😁

Just try calculating how many tons of bread they’d need to feed that many "soldiers" on a daily basis 😁

This is what a standard daily ration looks like for US soldiers.

An emergency diet kit from Amazon. Is this actually enough to get someone through a crisis?

Contains:

The US Army just beefed up their MREs. You get three full meals—breakfast, lunch, and dinner—each packed with a meat entree, canned veggies, biscuits, something sweet, and a beverage. They also threw in all the gear: cutlery, wet and dry wipes, a portable heater with fuel tablets, and wind/waterproof matches. It all comes in a waterproof bag with a handle and a zip lock seal. At 1700g, it’s a heavy, well-balanced kit designed to last a full day. Is it worth it? Probably. It's a solid, convenient way to stay fed on the move. Expiration date: 06/21 (NEW) Army Crackers 4/50 g The inventory list: Stew Beef (250g), Vegetable Stew (100g), Sausage Stuffing (100g), and Rice Porridge with Beef (250g). Includes a Beverage concentrate, Protein drink, fruit jam, and an Energy fruit bar. For the caffeine fix, there's Black Teo, instant Coffee (with sugar, salt, and pepper), and enough supplies for a portable heater. Toss in some Wind / Waterproof Matches, Wet Wipes, paper Napkins, Plastic Spoons, and a can opener. Seems complete? Expiration date - 06/2021

Here are the highlights:

About 9 ounces of beef.
A hundred grams of sausage. That it.
250 grams of beef stew with rice.
A 9-ounce bowl of Stew Beef.
A small bowl of vegetable stew. That's about it.
200 grams of cookies (I'm assuming that's the substitute for bread?)

A single day's worth of food—three meals total—weighs about 1.7kg. If we assume 300,000 people actually need moving, and they each get one of these packs daily... though it's just as likely they'd only see one every three days... well, let's be optimistic and say they get one per day.

So, let's do the math. 1.7kg times 300,000 equals 510,000kg of food. That’s 510 tons. If one truck carries 10 tons, you're looking at 51 trucks delivering food every single day along the front lines. How does that even work? 622 milesThrough snow, mud, and god-knows-what else. Just trying to handle the daily logistics for food alone is enough to give you a massive headache.

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So, get this—the big-shot military commissioner over in the Kursk region, Vladimir Rodionov, was giving some briefing about this whole partial mobilization mess happening in the country, and he basically dropped a bombshell on everyone. According to The Wall Street Journal, he told anyone living in the Kursk area who’s already registered at the local draft office and is currently in the reserves that they’re effectively grounded. Starting at 9:00 AM on September 21st, if you haven't cleared it with the military commissariat, you aren't allowed to leave the region. Can you imagine? Just stuck where you are without a green light from the brass.

And wait, it gets even more intense. He also made it crystal clear that if you're one of those folks in the Kursk area subject to mobilization but you happen to be out of town right now, you've got exactly three days to get your butt back home, or else you have to check in wherever you're staying. It's all getting pretty heavy, isn't it?

Noah Sanchez2 said:This is what a standard daily ration looks like for US soldiers.

An emergency diet kit from Amazon. Is this actually enough to get someone through a crisis?

Contains:

The US Army just beefed up their MREs. You get three full meals—breakfast, lunch, and dinner—each packed with a meat entree, canned veggies, biscuits, something sweet, and a beverage. They also threw in all the gear: cutlery, wet and dry wipes, a portable heater with fuel tablets, and wind/waterproof matches. It all comes in a waterproof bag with a handle and a zip lock seal. At 1700g, it’s a heavy, well-balanced kit designed to last a full day. Is it worth it? Probably. It's a solid, convenient way to stay fed on the move. Expiration date: 06/21 (NEW) Army Crackers 4/50 g The inventory list: Stew Beef (250g), Vegetable Stew (100g), Sausage Stuffing (100g), and Rice Porridge with Beef (250g). Includes a Beverage concentrate, Protein drink, fruit jam, and an Energy fruit bar. For the caffeine fix, there's Black Teo, instant Coffee (with sugar, salt, and pepper), and enough supplies for a portable heater. Toss in some Wind / Waterproof Matches, Wet Wipes, paper Napkins, Plastic Spoons, and a can opener. Seems complete? Expiration date - 06/2021

Here are the highlights:

About 9 ounces of beef.
A hundred grams of sausage. That it.
250 grams of beef stew with rice.
A 9-ounce bowl of Stew Beef.
A small bowl of vegetable stew. That's about it.
200 grams of cookies (I'm assuming that's the substitute for bread?)

A single day's worth of food—three meals total—weighs about 1.7kg. If we assume 300,000 people actually need moving, and they each get one of these packs daily... though it's just as likely they'd only see one every three days... well, let's be optimistic and say they get one per day.

So, let's do the math. 1.7kg times 300,000 equals 510,000kg of food. That’s 510 tons. If one truck carries 10 tons, you're looking at 51 trucks delivering food every single day along the front lines. How does that even work? 622 milesThrough snow, mud, and god-knows-what else. Just trying to handle the daily logistics for food alone is enough to give you a massive headache.

Right from the jump, until they start killing each other over scraps and eating themselves, the Russians have never actually cared about their soldiers' lives.
And Americans? This isn't even propaganda; they will do absolutely everything in their power to save a single soldier, while the Russians just sacrifice thousands without blinking.

Ever tried taking on a thankless job—like trying to calculate exactly how many trucks we need just to keep everyone fed?
It’s a massive number, but honestly, that’s not even the hard part.

The real issue for the US Army is morale and basic training.

Samuel Rodriguez52 said:I was watching the news on Russian TV today and they showed Patriarch Cyril giving what I guess you could call a "mobilization sermon," basically claiming that "those Ukrainians fighting against Russia are devils that need to be wiped out." It’s honestly just wild to me how much rhetoric someone is allowed to get away with when they're presenting themselves as God's messenger.

For real? Link?
Seems weird he'd actually say that. 🤔
People would be talking about it by now...

https://news9.epizy.com/news/mobilis...s-enemies/?i=1

Kiril's quote: "We know the danger looming over the Ukrainian people, who are being transformed—turned from part of the holy, united Russia into a state hostile to this very Russia, hostile to Russia itself."

wanderingmaker3 said:Ever tried taking on a thankless job—like trying to calculate exactly how many trucks we need just to keep everyone fed?
It’s a massive number, but honestly, that’s not even the hard part.

The real issue for the US Army is morale and basic training.

Here's an incredible fact for you: people actually need food to function. That goes for construction workers on a job site just as much as soldiers sitting in a trench.

wanderingmaker3 said:Ever tried taking on a thankless job—like trying to calculate exactly how many trucks we need just to keep everyone fed?
It’s a massive number, but honestly, that’s not even the hard part.

The real issue for the US Army is morale and basic training.

The real headache is going to be all those body bags heading back home to Russia. Once people start seeing that, maybe then we'll see some actual massive protests...

wanderingmaker3 said:Ever tried taking on a thankless job—like trying to calculate exactly how many trucks we need just to keep everyone fed?
It’s a massive number, but honestly, that’s not even the hard part.

The real issue for the US Army is morale and basic training.

Then there is the matter of unit cohesion. At the onset of this conflict, they possessed units that were actually professional and well-drilled—only to squander them through sheer incompetence in leadership. When soldiers realize their survival depends solely on looking out for themselves because no one else is coming to help, the mission changes. They stop thinking about executing orders and start thinking about staying alive. Once you have a mass of individuals acting purely out of self-interest, teamwork evaporates. And when that disorganized crowd meets a disciplined, cohesive unit on the battlefield? Those individuals don't stand a chance.

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The Russian police are beating people without an ounce of mercy.

I’ve got to say, I’m pretty disappointed. I was fully expecting much larger protests than this, especially considering how many people usually show up for the local parades. Maybe we'll see a bigger turnout over the next few days.

https://www.nytimes.com/news/us/politics/protest-coverage

Gregory Ramos3 said:I mean, honestly, why do they even need all that bread? They might as well just eat cookies instead☕

And we’re talking about local stuff too, you know, small-scale American family farms and whatnot...

This whole mobilization thing is a joke. It's pathetic. All they're doing is digging themselves into an even deeper hole.

It’s all or nothing with them. Being stuck halfway is the absolute worst way to play it.

Look, if they pull 300k people, and those are just the guys actually hitting the line, then they'll need another million just to handle the logistics, otherwise those 300k don't mean squat on the battlefield.

If 300k is the total number, then you’re looking at maybe less than 100k actually seeing combat, which is basically nothing.

They don't even have enough gear for 300k, let alone anything more than that.

Noah Sanchez2 said:This is what a standard daily ration looks like for US soldiers.

An emergency diet kit from Amazon. Is this actually enough to get someone through a crisis?

Contains:

The US Army just beefed up their MREs. You get three full meals—breakfast, lunch, and dinner—each packed with a meat entree, canned veggies, biscuits, something sweet, and a beverage. They also threw in all the gear: cutlery, wet and dry wipes, a portable heater with fuel tablets, and wind/waterproof matches. It all comes in a waterproof bag with a handle and a zip lock seal. At 1700g, it’s a heavy, well-balanced kit designed to last a full day. Is it worth it? Probably. It's a solid, convenient way to stay fed on the move. Expiration date: 06/21 (NEW) Army Crackers 4/50 g The inventory list: Stew Beef (250g), Vegetable Stew (100g), Sausage Stuffing (100g), and Rice Porridge with Beef (250g). Includes a Beverage concentrate, Protein drink, fruit jam, and an Energy fruit bar. For the caffeine fix, there's Black Teo, instant Coffee (with sugar, salt, and pepper), and enough supplies for a portable heater. Toss in some Wind / Waterproof Matches, Wet Wipes, paper Napkins, Plastic Spoons, and a can opener. Seems complete? Expiration date - 06/2021

Here are the highlights:

About 9 ounces of beef.
A hundred grams of sausage. That it.
250 grams of beef stew with rice.
A 9-ounce bowl of Stew Beef.
A small bowl of vegetable stew. That's about it.
200 grams of cookies (I'm assuming that's the substitute for bread?)

A single day's worth of food—three meals total—weighs about 1.7kg. If we assume 300,000 people actually need moving, and they each get one of these packs daily... though it's just as likely they'd only see one every three days... well, let's be optimistic and say they get one per day.

So, let's do the math. 1.7kg times 300,000 equals 510,000kg of food. That’s 510 tons. If one truck carries 10 tons, you're looking at 51 trucks delivering food every single day along the front lines. How does that even work? 622 milesThrough snow, mud, and god-knows-what else. Just trying to handle the daily logistics for food alone is enough to give you a massive headache.

Water is a huge factor too. Just a reminder: 1L weighs roughly 1kg. A soldier in active combat needs way more than 2 liters a day.

Sure, they can try scavenging from natural sources, but good luck dealing with dysentery, cholera, typhoid, and all that fun stuff.

silentsailor6 said:I’ve got to say, I’m pretty disappointed. I was fully expecting much larger protests than this, especially considering how many people usually show up for the local parades. Maybe we'll see a bigger turnout over the next few days.

https://www.nytimes.com/news/us/politics/protest-coverage

There hasn't been a real protest there in a hundred years. They crush them ruthlessly....