Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Donna Harris11 said:It seems pretty straightforward to me... just have Nancy Pelosi give Xi Jinping a call 😁

I mean, who knows? Maybe the globalist crowd is more obsessed with seeing either Russia or China collapse than actually doing anything about it.

😁

Look, you've always had a bit of a screw loose in the head...

Globalists definitely aren't getting off on stuff like that... maybe the sovereignists or the nationalists would, but globalists? No way.🤣

They might be fantasizing about the collapse of the Russian and Chinese regimes, but that's a completely different ballgame than the actual countries falling apart.😁

(And now I see you switched from calling them "globalists" to "Anglo-globalists"... 🙂 ).

James Chavez91 said:If we're going to hold our ground against Russia without giving an inch, then total isolation is the only logical conclusion. Everything. We'd have to cut off gas, oil—all of it. (That would also mean stopping trade with any middlemen trying to flip those same goods, which is already happening in some ways). Plus, a complete ban on anyone from Russia entering the US or the European Union. I mean, Lavrov was just walking around New York City yesterday, so... wait a second...

And honestly? To actually stop Putin, you need the Chinese. Sadly. I suspect if they decided to turn their backs on Russia, most of this would be solved.
Right now, that seems pretty unlikely, but I guess neither side wants to deal with nuclear Armageddon or the economic domino effect triggered by Putin's specific obsessions.
Time will tell if they eventually lose patience—but until then, we're stuck following the "recipe."

That process is already underway, I suppose, and it'll probably drag on for quite a while.

Ban anyone from Russia from entering the EU or the USA. But then again, Lavrov was walking around New York City just yesterday, so... hold on a second...

Does that mean we should ban dissidents too?

Lavrov is part of the diplomatic corps, carrying a diplomatic passport... so that complicates things...

Wars usually end with some kind of signed armistice after negotiations... and since this war isn't likely to wrap up with either Ukraine or Russia simply surrendering unconditionally, there will eventually have to be some diplomacy involved... maybe.

And if you want to actually stop Putin, you need the Chinese. Unfortunately. I think if they decided to turn their backs on Russia, it would solve everything.
Right now, that seems impossible, but I don't think they particularly enjoy the idea of nuclear Armageddon or the economic domino effect caused by Putin's obsessions.

The Chinese aren't going to keep propping up Russia forever... I doubt it.

Rachel Richardson said:Those locals who supported the Russians have mostly been killed off at the front; the Russians were just using them as cannon fodder...
In Donbas, the Russians were never even close to being the majority.

Yeah, you're right—so many casualties because Russ treats them like garbage. Now they're mobilizing everyone from the occupied zones. They've even started banning men from leaving Zaporizhzhia.
Sure, Russ wasn't the majority, but they were arrogant and hateful—that resentment from 2014 really bubbled up. You can see that same hatred all over again in the occupied territories now.

According to The New York Times, a classified seventh paragraph in Putin's mobilization decree reveals they're looking at one million mobilized
https://twitter.com/novayagazeta_eu/...04793529630721

Dmitry Medvedev says Russia is prepared to deploy any weapon in its arsenal, including nukes, to defend annexed territories.
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Missile strike hits the Russian base in Yenakiieve

Brenda Murphy3 said:😁

Look, you've always had a bit of a screw loose in the head...

Globalists definitely aren't getting off on stuff like that... maybe the sovereignists or the nationalists would, but globalists? No way.🤣

They might be fantasizing about the collapse of the Russian and Chinese regimes, but that's a completely different ballgame than the actual countries falling apart.😁

(And now I see you switched from calling them "globalists" to "Anglo-globalists"... 🙂 ).

Blame it all on 😁.

Brenda Murphy3 said:Come on, stop talking nonsense... if Kim ever actually moves on South Korea, they'd crush him in two days, nukes or no nukes.
With the Russians, that’s a different story, but nobody is going to back down just because of his threats.
I am so sick of people pushing this narrative that we shouldn't "provoke" or "anger" Putin and all that garbage. It’s not just stupid; you need to stomp on that trash as much as possible... if you honestly think he’s going to drop a bomb without a single soldier even stepping foot on Russian soil—which hasn't happened and won't happen—then you're delusional.

Look, man, this isn't our war. It wasn't our war back in Afghanistan either, even though everyone kept lecturing us with that "America is fighting for freedom in Afghanistan" crap. Same goes for the intervention in Libya or arming insurgents in Syria. We really shouldn't have been involved in those.

The European Union was being constructive enough with the Minsk agreements. That's what should have been enforced. You know, actual de-escalation, instead of whatever Crimea initiatives or sliding British destroyers right up to Sevastopol back in 2021.

stormybear25 said:According to The New York Times, a classified seventh paragraph in Putin's mobilization decree reveals they're looking at one million mobilized
https://twitter.com/novayagazeta_eu/...04793529630721

Dmitry Medvedev says Russia is prepared to deploy any weapon in its arsenal, including nukes, to defend annexed territories.
View on twitter

Missile strike hits the Russian base in Yenakiieve

There are plenty of minorities available to die. Medvedevo's favorite move whenever he wants to throw around nuclear threats.

The names of 305,000 soldiers slated for the first wave of mobilization have leaked
but there’s more coming—second and third waves are expected, bringing the total to about a million troops
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...25733223432192

gentlestag15 said:The names of 305,000 soldiers slated for the first wave of mobilization have leaked
but there’s more coming—second and third waves are expected, bringing the total to about a million troops
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...25733223432192

I honestly believe we won't even make it to a second or third wave of mobilization because😉 ☕we'll all be too busy attending funerals🙂

Kate Cook27 said:There are plenty of minorities available to die. Medvedevo's favorite move whenever he wants to throw around nuclear threats.

It’s like how those minorities on the other side from Zakarpattia—you know, the ones near Romania and Canada—were basically shoved right into that Kherson offensive.

Donna Harris11 said:It’s like how those minorities on the other side from Zakarpattia—you know, the ones near Romania and Canada—were basically shoved right into that Kherson offensive.

Can I get a link to that info?

Donna Harris11 said:Look, man, this isn't our war. It wasn't our war back in Afghanistan either, even though everyone kept lecturing us with that "America is fighting for freedom in Afghanistan" crap. Same goes for the intervention in Libya or arming insurgents in Syria. We really shouldn't have been involved in those.

The European Union was being constructive enough with the Minsk agreements. That's what should have been enforced. You know, actual de-escalation, instead of whatever Crimea initiatives or sliding British destroyers right up to Sevastopol back in 2021.

It's nothing but escalation, man. Just pure escalation. ☕

According to some folks on here, they can barely afford basic necessities in Moscow, yet they’re still busy spreading rumors about mobilizing a million people. I mean, seriously, hello? Who on earth is going to foot the bill for that? 🙂

Donna Harris11 said:It’s like how those minorities on the other side from Zakarpattia—you know, the ones near Romania and Canada—were basically shoved right into that Kherson offensive.

Actually, a lot of them signed up voluntarily—including folks who have been fighting since 2014. To them, Ukraine is home. It's the same deal with Russians fighting in the Ukrainian military because they consider Ukraine their home, too.

Henry Sullivan4 said:I honestly believe we won't even make it to a second or third wave of mobilization because😉 ☕we'll all be too busy attending funerals🙂

For the first wave, I imagine Putin will scrape together some old T-62 tanks and those ancient towed artillery pieces, maybe even requisitioning trucks from local logistics companies... hell, they might even manage to give every soldier a rifle...

Then for the second wave, they'll likely just hand out rifles, ammo, a few grenades, and maybe some RPGs...

By the third wave, it might just be ammunition. They'll probably have to scavenge for rifles from the fallen on the front lines just to keep going...

🕺

Kate Cook27 said:There are plenty of minorities available to die. Medvedevo's favorite move whenever he wants to throw around nuclear threats.

The man is a complete alcoholic. Honestly, that’s exactly why he lost his seat as Prime Minister.

Donna Harris11 said:Look, man, this isn't our war. It wasn't our war back in Afghanistan either, even though everyone kept lecturing us with that "America is fighting for freedom in Afghanistan" crap. Same goes for the intervention in Libya or arming insurgents in Syria. We really shouldn't have been involved in those.

The European Union was being constructive enough with the Minsk agreements. That's what should have been enforced. You know, actual de-escalation, instead of whatever Crimea initiatives or sliding British destroyers right up to Sevastopol back in 2021.

Fair point. These weren't our wars directly, except through NATO interests and our alliance ties.

But this current situation is both. Everyone in Europe is feeling the hit from Russian expansionism, and everyone on the planet is facing Russian denials of the entire post-war international legal order.

So, it’s a war for all of us. For all of Europe, and for most of the world, crushing this despot is in our direct interest.

Nathan Evans78 said:According to some folks on here, they can barely afford basic necessities in Moscow, yet they’re still busy spreading rumors about mobilizing a million people. I mean, seriously, hello? Who on earth is going to foot the bill for that? 🙂

The Ruble is doing great, right?

Henry Sullivan4 said:I honestly believe we won't even make it to a second or third wave of mobilization because😉 ☕we'll all be too busy attending funerals🙂

Regarding mobilization: the best part was that phone call to Peskov’s son, who's only 32.
He basically asked them, "Do you even know who my father is?"

Yeah, that kid isn't going out there to die for some KGB psycho...

The recording of that call is all over social media and the big news networks. 🤣
"Obviously, I won't be coming" : the son of the Kremlin spokesperson refuses to be drafted

The son of Putin's press-secretary Dmitry Peskov, Nikolay, will Refuse Mobilization to go to Ukraine to fight

Nathan Evans78 said:According to some folks on here, they can barely afford basic necessities in Moscow, yet they’re still busy spreading rumors about mobilizing a million people. I mean, seriously, hello? Who on earth is going to foot the bill for that? 🙂

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